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Old 02-16-2012, 01:33 PM   #1271 (permalink)
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Haha, true. Of course, the actual complex seedling of a storyline they had with Triple H as COO with the cryptic "Conspiracy" and Awesome Truth and Miz and Laurinaitis and who was pulling Johnny Ace's strings and who was really out to sabotage Punk and could Del Rio be the new Corporate Champion and when was Stephanie going to come back with a vengeance to derail Punk for what Punk did to her father and how he disrespected her and her husband and what was the Bigger Picture of Nexus and why did they bury The Undertaker and who the Anonymous GM was and how did that tie into Triple H as COO and why did Awesome Truth help both sides in the Triple H/Punk war at Night of Champions and why did they never develop the Punk/Trips relationship and why did Punk never get revenge on Nash and why did they have to have Nash and Triple H feud and did Nash really text himself and who brought Nash in and what kind of alliance did Laurinaitis create with Vickie Guerrero and was Dolph Ziggler being groomed all along to overthrow Punk and why was Laurinaitis so wishy-washy with Awesome Truth and are we all supposed to forgive the roster, the announcers and the cameramen for bailing on Triple H and was that leading anywhere and was there ever a "Conspiracy" in the first place and what could have happened if Triple H turned heel at some point this late fall/early winter or thereabouts and who is the girl in the Jericho videos and what kind of relationship does he have with Johnny Ace and is Jericho being deployed to take out Punk for a Higher Power and is Vince going to return and what if Stephanie were back so I could look at her was kind of all thrown in the fireplace, or so it seems.


Ouch. Just reading that hurts my head both from laughter and stupidity. I mean Jesus Christ. I'm amazed anybody in that company can ever walk out the door and make it to work in the morning they're all so damn aimless. Although to be fair to them, I guess half of that stuff was speculated by us lol.
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They went with HHH/Taker because HHH,cena are the only two who are believable to end the streak. Jericho vs Taker wont draw shit. Vince mcmahon desperately needs a million buys with all the mania promotion for an ENTIRE year, otherwise he would look like an idiot.

Besides Rock,cena tag match survivor series buys were not that impressive, so mania needs HHH/taker imo.
Vince McMahon needs to create some new stars and draws outside of Cena and HHH for the future of the company ALOT more than he NEEDS 1,000,000 buys for this year's Wrestlemania IMO. Plus with the Cena/Rock match it would get close to 1,000,000 buy anyways I would think. The SVS buyrate was not impressive for ALOT of reasons, but The Rock's drawing power being weaker than he thought was not one of them.
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If Taker/HHH was indeed the plan since last year, I wonder if they were considering changing it to Punk/HHH once Punk's popularity blew up. I mean, with the way their feud ended and the way they were going with it, it looked like that was the way they were going. I mean why else have HHH pointlessly beat CM Punk when it was Punk who really could've used the win unless they were saving it for Mania? I don't know how long it was planned for Jericho to come back but if it was after NoC, then WWE probably figured they could do a whole "Best in the World" storyline and tie it in with the WWE Title in hopes that would boost the WWE Title's credibility in some people's eyes. Then they decided to just put back on the plan for Taker/HHH.

The only question is then what would've happened with Taker? Would he have indeed faced Mark Henry like it was rumored? Would he have faced someone like Wade Barrett or Cody Rhodes and get them over majorly by having them challenge the streak? I mean there's so many possibilities to all ends. I think if they really stress the fact to the casuals that the title "Best in the World" is synonymous with the WWE Title and that is what the whole Punk/Jericho feud revolves around, it could help the WWE Title's credibility to the casuals. But then the problem is the feud won't even be in the three biggest matches on the card if Show/Shaq does happen. So that makes it hard enough to take it as "Two of the best fighting to see who the best in the world at wrestling is!" I think it's possible, but it'll be very difficult with three bigger matches on the card. Maybe if it was just Rock/Cena as the only bigger match it could work, but Taker/HHH and now possibly Show/Shaq just makes it seem like a middle of the card match.

Punk/HHH would've obviously helped Punk out a lot more than Punk/Jericho, and plus if they did that and went with Taker/Jericho, those two matches are about equal in starpower, drawing, and importance so neither of them would look like a "middle of the card" match. It would be like there were four big matches, rather than just three, and the WWE Title match would be one of those big matches.

This all being said, I suspect match quality wise Punk/Jericho is the best option of the bunch, and Taker/HHH they could make another "drama-filled" match like last year. I couldn't see Punk/HHH or Taker/Jericho being as good or dramatic as the two they put on. So at least that's one thing good that came out of all of this.

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Haha, true. Of course, the actual complex seedling of a storyline they had with Triple H as COO with the cryptic "Conspiracy" and Awesome Truth and Miz and Laurinaitis and who was pulling Johnny Ace's strings and who was really out to sabotage Punk and could Del Rio be the new Corporate Champion and when was Stephanie going to come back with a vengeance to derail Punk for what Punk did to her father and how he disrespected her and her husband and what was the Bigger Picture of Nexus and why did they bury The Undertaker and who the Anonymous GM was and how did that tie into Triple H as COO and why did Awesome Truth help both sides in the Triple H/Punk war at Night of Champions and why did they never develop the Punk/Trips relationship and why did Punk never get revenge on Nash and why did they have to have Nash and Triple H feud and did Nash really text himself and who brought Nash in and what kind of alliance did Laurinaitis create with Vickie Guerrero and was Dolph Ziggler being groomed all along to overthrow Punk and why was Laurinaitis so wishy-washy with Awesome Truth and are we all supposed to forgive the roster, the announcers and the cameramen for bailing on Triple H and was that leading anywhere and was there ever a "Conspiracy" in the first place and what could have happened if Triple H turned heel at some point this late fall/early winter or thereabouts and who is the girl in the Jericho videos and what kind of relationship does he have with Johnny Ace and is Jericho being deployed to take out Punk for a Higher Power and is Vince going to return and what if Stephanie were back so I could look at her was kind of all thrown in the fireplace, or so it seems.
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This all being said, I suspect match quality wise Punk/Jericho is the best option of the bunch, and Taker/HHH they could make another "drama-filled" match like last year. I couldn't see Punk/HHH or Taker/Jericho being as good or dramatic as the two they put on. So at least that's one thing good that came out of all of this.[/QUOTE]

I get your point in this paragraph. But depending on how the story between Punk/HHH developed and what was on the line a Punk/HHH match could carry alot of dramtic appeal, as could a JEricho/Taker match depending again on how the story would've developed and how Jericho was made to look upon his return. With HHH/Taker though you do get the 2 biggest stars (outside Rock and Cena) in one match.
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Haha, true. Of course, the actual complex seedling of a storyline they had with Triple H as COO with the cryptic "Conspiracy" and Awesome Truth and Miz and Laurinaitis and who was pulling Johnny Ace's strings and who was really out to sabotage Punk and could Del Rio be the new Corporate Champion and when was Stephanie going to come back with a vengeance to derail Punk for what Punk did to her father and how he disrespected her and her husband and what was the Bigger Picture of Nexus and why did they bury The Undertaker and who the Anonymous GM was and how did that tie into Triple H as COO and why did Awesome Truth help both sides in the Triple H/Punk war at Night of Champions and why did they never develop the Punk/Trips relationship and why did Punk never get revenge on Nash and why did they have to have Nash and Triple H feud and did Nash really text himself and who brought Nash in and what kind of alliance did Laurinaitis create with Vickie Guerrero and was Dolph Ziggler being groomed all along to overthrow Punk and why was Laurinaitis so wishy-washy with Awesome Truth and are we all supposed to forgive the roster, the announcers and the cameramen for bailing on Triple H and was that leading anywhere and was there ever a "Conspiracy" in the first place and what could have happened if Triple H turned heel at some point this late fall/early winter or thereabouts and who is the girl in the Jericho videos and what kind of relationship does he have with Johnny Ace and is Jericho being deployed to take out Punk for a Higher Power and is Vince going to return and what if Stephanie were back so I could look at her was kind of all thrown in the fireplace, or so it seems.

lmao. The real "Summer or Punk".
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I get your point in this paragraph. But depending on how the story between Punk/HHH developed and what was on the line a Punk/HHH match could carry alot of dramtic appeal, as could a JEricho/Taker match depending again on how the story would've developed and how Jericho was made to look upon his return. With HHH/Taker though you do get the 2 biggest stars (outside Rock and Cena) in one match.
Perhaps Punk/HHH could've carried just as much dramatic appeal as Taker/HHH... don't know if I can see it being as good as Punk/Jericho. And Taker/Jericho is the same.

But honestly, with how they booked the Taker/HHH match last year, and with the promos HHH has cut, there has to be some fear (or happiness for some) that HHH will end the streak. I didn't get that feeling last year besides the few seconds after HHH hit that tombstone on Taker, but this year with how HHH has said he'd have to finish the job and that he doesn't want to end the "brand" of the Undertaker because it's bad for business and how he'll likely be pushed eventually in some way to the point where he'll want to. It seems like they're really preparing us for Taker's streak ending and HHH being the man to do it.

Hopefully I'm wrong because it would be a terrible decision, but I have a somewhat strong feeling they're gonna have HHH end the streak. We'll see though...
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Honestly, if it leads to a huge Cena/HHH heel team with Punk being the top face fighting them, I'd have no problem with HHH ending the streak. I'd never thought I'd say that.
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This is the ONLY way I would be ok with HHH ending the Streak, but you are 100% correct as I never thought I would say that either.
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One promo and HHH has you all converted. The man is a legend lol.
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Converted to what? You don't have to try and sell me on the fact that HHH is a "legend" in the wrestling business.
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