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**The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
For a list of the weekly rating dating back to January, please click here:

http://www.gerweck.net/tv-ratings/2012-tv-ratings/

RATINGS BREAKDOWN FOR THIS WEEKS RAW 4/9

Raw on 4/9 did a 3.10 rating and 4.29 million viewers. The show was third for the night on cable. The show did a 2.4 in Males 12-17, 2.7 in Males 18-49, 1.0 in Girls 12-17 and 1.1 in Women 18-49 with a 69.3% male skew. It was down 21% from the 5.46 million viewers of the week after Mania show last year, and last year there was no bombshell along the lines of the Brock Lesnar return on the night after Mania show.

In the segment-by-segment, Brodus Clay & Santino Marella vs. Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger lost 99,000 viewers.

Backstage with Laurinaitis with Miz an Cena, Marella looking for the Three Stooges and R-Truth vs. Cody Rhodes gained 255,000 viewers.

Lord Tensai vs. Yoshi Tatsu lost 415,000 viewers.

The mic work between C.M. Punk and Chris Jericho in the top of the hour segment gained 379,000 viewers to a 3.19.

Punk vs. Henry and the post-match with Jericho pouring beer all over Punk, as well as the quick Del Rio vs. Ryder match lost 169,000 viewers.

The Three Stooges in-ring segment lost 240,000 viewers and was the low point of the show at 2.90.

The Brock Lesnar interview gained 423,000 viewers.

And the Cena vs. Otunga match with Lesnar run-in gained 301,000 viewers, which is a very weak overrun number, finishing at 3.42.
 
#5,263 ·
Punk apologist? Please, I am most definitely not a Punk mark...in fact, there's about 3 guys who I admit I'm a giant mark for and Punk is not one of them. I call a spade a spade, and when someone does something that is crap, I'll be the first to say so. However, I live in a logical world, and blaming Punk for all the failings of this company is completely ILLOGICAL.

Out of curiosity, you blind Punk haters ever think to yourselves "gee, Punk had a really good promo last summer, how can a guy exhibit great talent like that and then go to the kinda crap he does today? Maybe, just maybe, its more than 'he just sucks'..." Nah, somehow I don't think you guys have.

As a matter of fact, the WWE title is more of an anchor to Punk at this point. The title means absolutely nothing, all the highest caliber feuds going on are beyond the title, maybe if he drops it people can start a crusade of blaming someone else when the ratings don't improve. Matter of fact, I'd love to see Bryan get the WWE title and have him become the new poster boy for the shitty ratings. It'd piss off so many of his supporters, seeing the blind haters attribute the lack of success to the new scapegoat.
 
#5,269 ·
The show was hurt by strong cable competition, as it was only 6th for the night, including the first Monday night football game of the season (4.07 rating; 5.37 million viewers for Dallas Cowboys vs. Oakland Raiders). Usually preseason football doesn’t hurt Raw, as Raw traditionally does big August numbers and drops 10% or so in September against the regular season games. But preseason games also usually don’t beat Raw as this one did. The final episode of The Closer on TNT did a 6.8 rating and the debut of Major Crimes on TNT did a 5.5 rating, which are likely to be the two highest rated shows of the week on cable. There was nothing big on network programming. The debut of “Stars Earn Stripes,” a reality show promoted heavily on the Olympics, with Eve Torres, did a 3.05 rating and 5.24 million viewers, which is up from what NBC had been averaging (a 2.4) in that time slot this summer before the Olympics.

It was the lowest rated Raw since the 5/28 show did a 2.72 rating and 3.91 million viewers, which got killed by the Hatfield & McCoy mini-series and the Celtics vs. Heat NBA playoff game. The rule of thumb is not to overreact to one weeks rating, particularly when ratings were good the past few weeks. The three hours were 2.68, 2.89 and 2.98. Teenage boys did a 3.1 (up 11%), Males 18-49 did a 2.6 (up 4%), Teenage girls did a 1.5 (up 7%) and Women 18-49 did a 1.0 (down 9%). The skew was 70.1% male which means they were significantly down with women overall.

In the segment-by-segment, the promotion online and through social media that they were opening with C.M. Punk vs. Big Show led to a 2.60 quarter, the lowest quarter for a Raw episode in months. Ryback vs. JTG gained 63,000 viewers. R-Truth vs. Heath Slater gained 186,000 viewers. Sin Cara vs. Tensai lost 105,000 viewers. The Piper’s Pit segment with Chris Jericho, Dolph Ziggler and The Miz gained 516,000 viewers for the 9 p.m. start. You’d think by four weeks that wouldn’t happen, but it’s been ten weeks for TNA and it still happens. Jericho vs. Ziggler vs. Miz in a three-way lost 96,000 viewers. Backstage stuff with Shawn Michaels, John Cena and Punk lost 374,000 viewers. Eve Torres & Beth Phoenix vs. Kaitlyn & Layla gained 45,000 viewers. Cena & Punk vs. Show & Daniel Bryan gained 247,000 viewers to a 2.94 quarter at 10 p.m. Still not good for that time slot even with Cena. Christian vs. Damien Sandow lost 121,000 viewers. The contract signing with Brock Lesnar, HHH, Heyman and Michaels gained 431,000 viewers. The parking lot car accident and lights attack lost 394,000 viewers. And the in-ring angle where Lesnar “broke Michaels’ arm” gained 817,000 viewers to a 3.44 overrun.


INSERT X DRAWS, Y DOESN'T DRAW FOR THIS ONE SPECIFIC WEEK AND GENERALIZE A STATEMENT BUT FORGET THESE RATINGS ONCE NEXT WEEK'S SHOW ARRIVES.

Commence..
 
#5,272 ·
Quarter Hours - August 13th, 2012
Q1 - 3.759 million
Q2 - 3.822 million
Q3 - 4.008 million
Q4 - 3.903 million
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Q5 - 4.419 million
Q6 - 4.323 million
Q7 - 3.949 million
Q8 - 3.994 million
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Q9 - 4.241 million
Q10 - 4.120 million
Q11 - 4.551 million
Q12 - 4.157 million
Overrun - 4.974 million

If you ignore hour 1 for a second, then the hour 2 'opening' with Piper's Pit actually did better than the 22:00 slot.

Also kudos to Sandow, since Raw 1000 I don't think I've seen him record a big loss once.

Overrun did well, although I've been plain uninterested with Lesnar/HHH/Michaels. Lesnar needed to take out Michaels before Monday and maybe even take out other DX members before beating HHH at SummerSlam.
 
#5,273 ·
However you wish to look at it no WWE champion should be getting the lowest viewing nunber if the year under a week before one of the main ppvs. People will come in and make excuses for Punk as always. The guy has been given one of the longest reigns ever...You cant blame the wwe for him not being able to draw.
 
#5,278 ·
Layla was the one trending too..what are you talking about? LOL. And Beth has been a ratings loser for who knows how long at this point. Kharma and Mickie James were the legit female rating draws until AJ got that 700k increase before the match with Bryan/Punk.

In the segment-by-segment, the promotion online and through social media that they were opening with C.M. Punk vs. Big
Show led to a 2.60 quarter, the lowest quarter for a Raw episode in months.
Ryback vs. JTG gained 63,000 viewers. R-Truth vs.
Heath Slater gained 186,000 viewers. Sin Cara vs. Tensai lost 105,000 viewers. The Piper’s Pit segment with Chris Jericho,
Dolph Ziggler and The Miz gained 516,000 viewers for the 9 p.m. start. You’d think by four weeks that wouldn’t happen, but it’s
been ten weeks for TNA and it still happens. Jericho vs. Ziggler vs. Miz in a three-way lost 96,000 viewers. Backstage stuff with
Shawn Michaels, John Cena and Punk lost 374,000 viewers. Eve Torres & Beth Phoenix vs. Kaitlyn & Layla gained 45,000
viewers. Cena & Punk vs. Show & Daniel Bryan gained 247,000 viewers to a 2.94 quarter at 10 p.m. Still not good for that time
slot even with Cena. Christian vs. Damien Sandow lost 121,000 viewers. The contract signing with Brock Lesnar, HHH,
Heyman and Michaels gained 431,000 viewers. The parking lot car accident and lights attack lost 394,000 viewers. And the in-
ring angle where Lesnar “broke Michaels’ arm” gained 817,000 viewers to a 3.44 overrun.
That CM Punk rating is a damn shame. All that shit the boy talks and he isn't drawing shit but it's not like he cares. His paycheck got better from the whining heel gimmick that was believed to be "shoots" by the naive wrestling public.
 
#5,282 · (Edited)
Just three weeks ago, Raw got 6 million viewers. Granted, it was Raw 1000 but no 6 million people would watch if the current direction (Punk as champ) was bad. And he was in the two longest and most successful segments of the evening.

The reason why ratings have gone down again since that is because of bad booking and writing. If every Raw was as hyped and as well booked and written as Raw 1000, it would constantly be around 6 million viewers with Punk as champ.
 
#5,283 · (Edited)
I feel there is no buzz for the WWE title picture and people just don't care. I mean there hasn't been any real developments going into Summerslam for the WWE title picture and it feels like the pay-off to this Cena vs Punk feud will be perhaps at Night of Chamions or Survivor Series. A match with CM Punk and Big Show doing the lowest quarter in a while isn't good per say, but like I said there is no buzz for the WWE title scene.
 
#5,284 ·
Did it ever occur to anyone that part of the reason the show started out so poorly is that this 3 hour thing is kind of a mistake in its current form?

It's not what people are used to, it hasn't been used for anything other than the usual opening interviews (except for this week), it's full of the wrestling equivalent of pop up ads, and the WWE hasn't exactly been doing a great job of getting people excited for the longer shows. Add in the fact that they re cap everything ad nauseum, and there really is no reason to watch the first hour.
 
#5,286 ·
Mega ouch at that opener. Wouldn't have been so bad if it wasn't advertised although it has to be said that it wasn't advertised on TV but only online and over twitter etc, right? Even still, that's not good. The tag match later on in the evening which by all accounts, was a pretty fun match, didn't do too well either and didn't even get over a 3.0. The build for the title has been pedestrian at best so I'm not surprised, even with Cena in there. I think the highest rated segment during the build for this match was Cena/Show if I'm not mistaken. It seems like an anomaly when you look at it lol but whatever. My interest in the match couldn't be any lower than it is and it's no surprise to me that others feel the same.

I guess we can say that the average gain for 9PM is 500,000 based on the last few weeks. In that regard Piper's Pit was on the dot. Can't complain there given who was in the segment. The Divas drawing is a surprise but kudos to them I guess. Outside of that and the first hour, everything else lost viewers. Looking at DMN's breakdown they had 5 quarters under 4 million and that is the real thing to worry about, if anything, 3 of which involved the WWE title picture.

Combined, the Brock/HHH stuff gained over 1.2 million viewers and was the highest rated stuff on the show. The contract signing happened at a very unusual time slot but it still pulled in over 400k which is very good. The car accident bit lost viewers but iirc that quarter was full of commercials and in general, the placement of segments during the last half hour was all over the place. The end did a very nice number. Big gain of over 800k and right on the money at 5 million viewers. That's about the only positive thing to be taken from this breakdown lol. 5 million is the magic number and 5 million people watched the hard sell for Summerslam at the end so they can take solace in that I suppose.
 
#5,287 ·
http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/8_13_
RAW_Breakdown_CM_Punk_vs_Big_Show_Opener_Lesnar_s_Attack_on_Michaels_and_More.html

8/13 RAW Breakdown: CM Punk vs. Big Show Opener, Lesnar's Attack on Michaels and More
By Marc Middleton
Aug 16, 2012 - 7:47:20 AM

- As noted before, the August 13th WWE RAW did a 2.85 cable rating with 4.14 million viewers - not good numbers for the SummerSlam go-home RAW.

In the segment breakdown, CM Punk vs. Big Show opened with a 2.60 quarter rating - the lowest quarter for RAW in months. JTG vs. Ryback gained 63,000 viewers while Heath Slater vs. R-Truth gained 186,000 more. Tensai vs. Sin Cara lost 105,000 viewers.

Piper's Pit with Dolph Ziggler, Chris Jericho, The Miz and Roddy Piper at 9pm gained 516,000 viewers. Jericho vs. Ziggler vs. Miz lost 96,000 viewers. Backstage segments with Shawn Michaels, John Cena and CM Punk lost 374,000 viewers while the Divas match with Eve Torres and Beth Phoenix vs. Layla and Kaitlyn gained 45,000 viewers.

John Cena and CM Punk vs. Big Show and Daniel Bryan gained 247,000 viewers for a 2.94 quarter rating at 10pm - not a good increase for that timeslot, even with Cena featured. Christian vs. Damien Sandow lost 121,000 viewers. The contract signing angle with Brock Lesnar, Triple H, Paul Heyman and Shawn Michaels gained 431,000 viewers. The angle in the parking lot where the camera went out lost 394,000 viewers and the in-ring angle where Lesnar broke Shawn's arm gained 817,000 viewers for a 3.44 overrun.
 
#5,291 · (Edited)
Punk the past couple of weeks has done okay in the opening slot. What's the difference this week? This week he was in a match (last week he was in a match after Q1 if I recall). But even then, the angle has been turned to shit, and it's proof in the fact all three men in the triple threat plus Daniel Bryan couldn't pull in at least a 3.0. The whole compelling thing about Punk/Cena in the first place was Punk's heel turn. However once again he's been put in the backseat of the feud and they added Big Show into the mix. That being said it's not good at all this Raw opened the lowest in months, but WWE gets what they give. They give shit, they get a shit amount of viewers. I don't know about everyone else, but I certainly didn't care to see Punk/Show.

As far as Punk/Show getting promoted, I remember hearing about it maybe once in the last week. They got about as much promotion as HHH/Lesnar did last week.

As far as Lesnar/HHH/HBK/Heyman goes, no matter how shit the angle is, with that starpower it's going to draw big when advertised. As expected, it did. Even in a random quarter hour it does well, and then the overrun gains 800,000+ viewers, second only to the Cena/Show with Punk on commentary from a couple of weeks ago since moving to three hours.

But yeah, not good for the go home show, but as someone else pointed out last year's go-home show did pretty poorly as well for Summerslam. Next week will be interesting. I'm fully expecting Cena to become WWE Champion at Summerslam, and if so it will be very interesting if that brings in viewers. We also have the fallout of Lesnar/HHH, which hopefully will be more than just a video package, but if the two destroy eachother that's all we'll get.
 
#5,295 ·
Punk the past couple of weeks has done okay in the opening slot. What's the difference this week? This week he was in a match (last week he was in a match after Q1 if I recall). But even then, the angle has been turned to shit, and it's proof in the fact all three men in the triple threat plus Daniel Bryan couldn't pull in at least a 3.0. The whole compelling thing about Punk/Cena in the first place was Punk's heel turn. However once again he's been put in the backseat of the feud and they added Big Show into the mix. That being said it's not good at all this Raw opened the lowest in months, but WWE gets what they give. They give shit, they get a shit amount of viewers. I don't know about everyone else, but I certainly didn't care to see Punk/Show.
Thats not true, Punk has been booked well in this three way feud.


Also, went back the last couple of weeks and noticed something:

1) Last week, Lesnar/HHH was at a 3.45 rating, where this week was 3.44. Not sure how close the viewership was for each, but we can assume they've been able to keep everyone interested with the tease when Lesnar said "I'll see you before Summerslam" to HBK.

2) The 10PM slot hasn't had a huge gain since moving to 3 hours. HHH/Lesnar from Raw 1000 gained like 90,000 (granted on top of 300,000 from the quarter before it with Heyman/Steph/HHH). A tag match on Raw 1001 gained 50,000. Raw 1002 with another Lesnar/HHH segment gained a little over 200,000. So this week at the very least, falls in the line with the gains, but I'm not sure how many viewers each segment got, so can't really comment on that, but I do know the Lesnar/HHH segment from last week was the highest of the night. And on Raw 1,000, pretty much everything gained aside from a couple of segments.
I dont think you can really compare RAW 1000 numbers though, because viewers were already large and consistent throughout the show. Gain will be very little when that happens, even the Overrun that night with Rock/Cena gained only 300K IIRC.
 
#5,292 ·
It's really simple why Raw is dipping this low again... people gave the WWE a chance with 1000th and gave it a few eppies to see what happened. Turned out it was more of the same bad booking and idiotic casual grabbing shit. Many wrestling fans are tuning out of this entertainment product McMahon wants... too bad he doesn't realise it is BAD entertainment.
 
#5,294 ·
Also, went back the last couple of weeks and noticed something:

1) Last week, Lesnar/HHH was at a 3.45 rating, where this week was 3.44. Not sure how close the viewership was for each, but we can assume they've been able to keep everyone interested with the tease when Lesnar said "I'll see you before Summerslam" to HBK.

2) The 10PM slot hasn't had a huge gain since moving to 3 hours. HHH/Lesnar from Raw 1000 gained like 90,000 (granted on top of 300,000 from the quarter before it with Heyman/Steph/HHH). A tag match on Raw 1001 gained 50,000. Raw 1002 with another Lesnar/HHH segment gained a little over 200,000. So this week at the very least, falls in the line with the gains, but I'm not sure how many viewers each segment got, so can't really comment on that, but I do know the Lesnar/HHH segment from last week was the highest of the night. And on Raw 1,000, pretty much everything gained aside from a couple of segments.
 
#5,299 · (Edited)
In the segment-by-segment, the promotion online and through social media that they were opening with C.M. Punk vs. Big
Show led to a 2.60 quarter, the lowest quarter for a Raw episode in months.
Ryback vs. JTG gained 63,000 viewers. R-Truth vs.
Heath Slater gained 186,000 viewers. Sin Cara vs. Tensai lost 105,000 viewers. The Piper’s Pit segment with Chris Jericho,
Dolph Ziggler and The Miz gained 516,000 viewers for the 9 p.m. start. You’d think by four weeks that wouldn’t happen, but it’s
been ten weeks for TNA and it still happens. Jericho vs. Ziggler vs. Miz in a three-way lost 96,000 viewers. Backstage stuff with
Shawn Michaels, John Cena and Punk lost 374,000 viewers. Eve Torres & Beth Phoenix vs. Kaitlyn & Layla gained 45,000
viewers. Cena & Punk vs. Show & Daniel Bryan gained 247,000 viewers to a 2.94 quarter at 10 p.m. Still not good for that time
slot even with Cena. Christian vs. Damien Sandow lost 121,000 viewers. The contract signing with Brock Lesnar, HHH,
Heyman and Michaels gained 431,000 viewers. The parking lot car accident and lights attack lost 394,000 viewers. And the in-
ring angle where Lesnar “broke Michaels’ arm” gained 817,000 viewers to a 3.44 overrun.
Punk = Diesel 2012
 
#5,304 · (Edited)
You do know that last year, Punk was also champion the week before Summerslam and the focus of the show. Fact of the matter is that ratings and buyrates are only as good as the WWE title is booked. And right now it's booked like crap so the ratings tank and the buyrate this Sunday will suck. Well maybe not if Brock still draws after 5 months of being wasted.
 
#5,306 ·
Too much obsession on Punk, saying he can't draw I don't see the problem of that, he isn't the focus of the show, starting the show with a low number is not a big deal especially that I don't know when was the last time the show started with a match, Cena and Bryan came in later it's not about who can draw, its just means people is not interested on the feud. If you wanna blame Punk, you also should blame Cena and Big show for not adding anything to the match, how can you say that they are big draws as people say but not blame them because they don't have the title, aren't they part of the feud, so if they want to see Cena or Show win the title then people will tune in, but now it's just proves that nobody is interested to see them as champs. People should give it a rest trying to look for the smallest thing to blame him for everything. What will Cena add to the title absolutely nothing, it will just make others look bad.
 
#5,311 ·
As I've pointed out, I'm not a Punk mark. I'm just looking for logic in these arguments. To blame these crappy ratings all on Punk makes absolutely no sense. Is he partly to blame? Absolutely. Solely? No, and no one in their right mind can argue that. Cena, Hunter, Brock, Big Show, Bryan and company all bear part of this cross.

First of all, RAW on Memorial day always does low rating. I'll admit that i was wrong about 2.6 being the lowest quarter, even though its terribly low for WWE CHAMPION having a match and being RAW opener unlike Santino/ADR of the RAW breakdown you posted.
You seem to be ignorant of the fact that the WWE title has been devalued to much over the past 8 months. Its main evented ONE PPV, whereas every other PPV (bar the Rumble) has been headlined by Cena. Most of those matches didn't even deserve the main event slot-Cena vs Laurinaitis was really more important than Punk and Bryan? Let's also not forget the fact that AJ's involvement COMPLETELY overshadowed the title, to the point that the focus wasn't on the champion and challenger, it was on who AJ was going to side with and what whacko thing she'd do next.

My biggest problem with this whole Punk reign is that its like he's had roadblock after roadblock set up in front of him, like the Fed WANTS him to fail. Yes, he's had many atrocious segments like calling Ace a giant toolbox and whatnot. Not disputing that. You call him the worst drawing champion in a decade. I ask you, what other champion has had as many obstacles thrown in his path like Punk? Never main events PPVs, often his matches are placed in the middle of the card, a fucking diva is given 3 times the TV time he was getting, his feuds were set ups for Cena...he's the champion who isn't being treated as such. Cena and Hunter seem to be the only guys in the company who are having any focus put on them. Any Punk gets is pretty half assed. If the guy can't get a fair chance, how can he really succeed?


LOL look at it again, the WWE champion loses viewers in the 10 P.M quarter where viewers ALWAYS tune in. It wasnt even a low gain, he actually lost viewers which means people were almost sick of him that they decided to tune out on top of the hour.

There's also many times that punk vs Miz lost viewers consistently at 10pm and main event, he also lost viewers against Tensai in the Main Event.
Yeah and I don't dispute that Punk's segments haven't lost viewers. Never said they didn't. Do they always? No. Do Cena's segments always draw? No. Hence, Punk can't be the sole beneficiary of the blame for the crappy ratings.


What do I know? I know that the quarter was big because of the Divas match randomly gaining over 400K before the corny drunk segment by the wwe champion. Punk and Jericho gained only 200k which is actually weak for 10 pm, while divas gained 400k. That says it all.
What's your point? You say Punk can't draw and in this segment he drew viewers. Your argument is invalid.


Once again I have to point out, Punk has lost viewers many times in his shitty reign which cena never did when he was champion. Besides whats your point comparing these two anyway? Cena has been part of the main event drawing matches of last two manias, he has a proven record of drawing high ratings. Punk is no John cena. By comparing these two, you only make yourself look stupid.
So you're saying that Cena has NEVER had a bad segment when he's champion? That's not correct and you know it.

Please, continue trying to convince yourself that people bought Wrestlemania 27 to see Cena vs Miz. Its really quite amusing. They paid to see the Rock and you damn well know that. And don't even try saying that Cena was the driving force behind the buys of WM28. Rock's first singles match in 8 years and his main stream publicity are what MADE that WM.

But you bring up a good point-Punk isn't John Cena. John Cena does have a proven record of drawing power. Does Punk? How should we know, he's never been given a chance. He's always playing second or third string behind whatever Cena and Hunter happen to be doing. They've given him the title and yet don't treat him like a champion. What other WWE champion in history has main evented 1 PPV in an 8 month reign? None. He's being treated like a second rate champion. It'd be like Alexander Ovechkin being called a dud because he was only scoring 15 goals a season because he's stuck on the 4th line. Of course he's not living up to his potential, he hasn't been given a fair chance.



None of those superstars were longest reigning WWE champion in years. Face it, Punk is a over-pushed peice of shit, a failure. He does not deserve such a massive push. He is the WWE champion but struggles to draw which is the reason they took him off main events and turned him into a mid card champion. Like someone said he is the kevin nash of 1995.
fpalm

Just...I don't even know where to start.

How can this guy be over pushed? He hasn't main evented a PPV in over 8 months. You call THAT an over push? John Cena must be Jesus then.

He doesn't deserve a massive push? Has he failed in some phantom push I've never seen? You see, if they pushed him really strongly, like Kevin Nash in 1995, and he failed, sure. Except they haven't...they've given him a half assed push instead and now he's floundering. You'd expect different results? How about when Cena won the title in 2005 if they booked him like they're booking Punk now. You could get Trish Stratus to overshadow the title, have him feud with guys like Carlito or Rhyno. You think he'd be anywhere near the draw he is today? Of course not, they treated him like a serious champion. So in the end, they got serious results. Punk has been treated like a champion who isn't important. So guess what the audience thinks?

He struggles to draw and that's why they took him off main events? He main evented ONE PPV. How in the blue hell is that a reasonable way to look at a guy and judge his drawing power? "Hmm this PPV did 10,000 less buys than last year, this guy isn't a draw, back to the midcard." That makes absolutely zero sense. One PPV in the main event is not in any way, shape or form an accurate gauge of a person's drawing power. To say otherwise is ludicrous.

Like...you're completely ignorant about this stuff. If you call how CM Punk has been treated in his tenure as champion fair or that the WWE has really gotten behind him, I suggest you take up knitting. Wrestling clearly is not for you. I'd have an infinite amount more respect for what you're saying if you'd just be truthful. You don't like Punk and have convinced yourself of a bunch of misinformed facts based on incorrect and biased information. Just say it.


The RAW go home for summerslam 2011 did 3.01 rating not 3.31. The RAW before that week did 3.3 which means ratings were going down "and we were right in the middle of Summer of Punk" as you pointed out.
And yet Cena was also WWE champion at the time as well...where does his portion of the blame factor into your reasoning?
 
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