View Poll Results: Do Wrestlers Draw, Or Does the WWE Brand Draw?
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Wrestlers Draw
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WWE Brand draws
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02-09-2012, 10:44 AM
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
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Originally Posted by Rock316AE
No, Punk lost viewers in the 10pm slot, you said that people don't want to watch Jericho when he gains only 90k on that time slot, Punk lost there twice so at least people want to watch Jericho more. Simple logic according to you.
800k was the return match of Jericho and Foley. Ace might be a bigger TV draw than Punk(not saying much, I'm sure Ace can draw bigger than a 97 record), who knows why they put him in the main slots.
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Wow, Punk lost them a whole TWO times? They must fire his ass. Just like they should have when Triple H lost viewers in the main event. Same with Jeff Hardy. Same with John Cena when he got the second lowest overrun rating since 97. See my point? Punk's had MUCH more good ratings than he's had bad ones. Without a doubt. Punk's actually been drawing great numbers for a while now. Whereas Chris Jericho has been consistently losing viewers. I mean for fucks sake this guy is making matters worse and God knows how, but he's doing it.
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02-09-2012, 12:11 PM
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
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Originally Posted by Wrestlinfan35
Wow, Punk lost them a whole TWO times? They must fire his ass. Just like they should have when Triple H lost viewers in the main event. Same with Jeff Hardy. Same with John Cena when he got the second lowest overrun rating since 97. See my point? Punk's had MUCH more good ratings than he's had bad ones. Without a doubt. Punk's actually been drawing great numbers for a while now. Whereas Chris Jericho has been consistently losing viewers. I mean for fucks sake this guy is making matters worse and God knows how, but he's doing it.
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I think everybody knew that Punk was going to interrupt Jericho at some point during his promo. Maybe that has something to do with the poor viewership.
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02-09-2012, 02:26 PM
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
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I think everybody knew that Punk was going to interrupt Jericho at some point during his promo. Maybe that has something to do with the poor viewership.
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No. Did you completely miss my point? Yeah, the guy at fault is the one who has been getting a lot of good numbers recently. Not the guy who's been losing a shitton of viewers every week and been doing god awful since his comeback.
Love Jericho just as much as anybody but I think we all have to admit the guy is one of the worst top guy draws in recent history. I hope WWE realize they fucked up having Punk/Jericho instead of Punk/Trips. (Still not over that  )
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02-09-2012, 02:30 PM
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
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No. Did you completely miss my point? Yeah, the guy at fault is the one who has been getting a lot of good numbers recently. Not the guy who's been losing a shitton of viewers every week and been doing god awful since his comeback.
Love Jericho just as much as anybody but I think we all have to admit the guy is one of the worst top guy draws in recent history. I hope WWE realize they fucked up having Punk/Jericho instead of Punk/Trips. (Still not over that  )
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In all honesty (i know its a very long shot) but they still could have Trips/Punk and Jericho/Taker. HHH could continue to turn down the Undertaker for a match. Jericho could lsoe at EC to Punk and decide since everyone is a "Wannabee" and copies him, Jericho will do the one thing at WM NOBODY has been able to, beat The Undertaker at WM. That story kinda writes itself actually now that I think about it.
And HHH/Punk story would be easy enough to write in to I would think. Now please befoer all the flame comes I am very aware that this is most likely not happening and we are getting Punk/Jericho and HHH/Taker at WM just throwing out a thoguht I have that changing the planned storylines wouldn;t be that difficult.
Sorry to go off topic, please continue ratings discussion.
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02-09-2012, 03:40 PM
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
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Originally Posted by Wrestlinfan35
Wow, Punk lost them a whole TWO times? They must fire his ass. Just like they should have when Triple H lost viewers in the main event. Same with Jeff Hardy. Same with John Cena when he got the second lowest overrun rating since 97. See my point? Punk's had MUCH more good ratings than he's had bad ones. Without a doubt. Punk's actually been drawing great numbers for a while now. Whereas Chris Jericho has been consistently losing viewers. I mean for fucks sake this guy is making matters worse and God knows how, but he's doing it.
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Lol. no he's not, he's drawing below average numbers 90% of the time, like Meltzer said, he doesn't move numbers. Punk has been drawing the same numbers, it's just that his standards are so low that when he gets just a terrible number for the time slot and not a disaster, it's already improvement. Jericho lost when he's random slots, Punk lost there much more than him.
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02-09-2012, 05:06 PM
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
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Originally Posted by Rock316AE
Lol. no he's not, he's drawing below average numbers 90% of the time, like Meltzer said, he doesn't move numbers. Punk has been drawing the same numbers, it's just that his standards are so low that when he gets just a terrible number for the time slot and not a disaster, it's already improvement. Jericho lost when he's random slots, Punk lost there much more than him.
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Just out of curiosity, why do you care so much? Do you really despise Punk so much that it actually causes you pain? Does the fact that his merchandise is on fire mean absolutely nothing to you? Also,can you name one person whose full time on the roster who could take punks place and draw more? Because quite frankly, your shtick is old now, get the fuck over this obsession of yours. Punk is over and is a legitimate draw in his right. Punk is huge now, he's a main eventer for goodness sake, so what if he lost viewers a couple of times, who gives a shit, he's still making millions of dollars for Vince. Also, yes, we know, the Rock is a bigger star and a bigger draw thank Punk is, just because Punk has made a couple of comments there's no need for you to get hurt, I'm sure Rocky himself couldn't care less and there's certainly no reason for you to do so.
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02-09-2012, 05:27 PM
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
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Originally Posted by Rock316AE
Lol. no he's not, he's drawing below average numbers 90% of the time, like Meltzer said, he doesn't move numbers. Punk has been drawing the same numbers, it's just that his standards are so low that when he gets just a terrible number for the time slot and not a disaster, it's already improvement. Jericho lost when he's random slots, Punk lost there much more than him.
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lolMeltzer, I really could care less about what he thinks, since it's obvious WWE has more than enough fate in Punk. Below average? That's odd because the only people I've seen do any better are Cena and Triple H. Your favorites, Orton and Jericho, aren't doing any better whatsoever. That's why Punk's the new #2. Whether you like it or not, and clearly you do not, Punk is one of the very few top draws in the company. It's a tough pill for you to swallow because it kills you that an Attitude Era Gawd isn't a big draw. Jericho's amazing and I love him but if we're going by the numbers as everyone here always loves to do, then it's obvious Jericho is one shitty draw. He's always been one.
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02-09-2012, 05:38 PM
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
It doesn't matter if you don't care, and it's not his opinion, facts, and he's the guy who gives you the breakdown every week. Not hard for me at all because it's not true, if he could draw shit and was in a bigger position? it is what it is and good for him, but he's not(You will see it when he's going to SD after WM). You are clearly the most delusional Punk fanboy here, Jericho is in his last run now, In his prime he drew and sold 20 times what Punk is doing now, and I'm saying it like it's accomplishment to Jericho but it's not impressive for him at all. Jericho was never a big draw, no doubt, but he was bigger than Punk, by far, again not saying much.
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02-09-2012, 07:16 PM
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
just finished reading the last couple of pages. just lol.
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02-10-2012, 03:21 AM
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
The problem with the Meltzer breakdowns for me is, that the first number is always a HH-Rating and then he begins to tell us how many viewers the next segment lost. That makes no sense, because a HH-Rating stand for households and has nothing to do with the viewership.
What’s the problem to post the viewership for each quarter?
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