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Old 02-02-2012, 11:42 PM   #1011 (permalink)
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Guess this is where the reality check has to be reissued. And I'd say this if we were back in 2004-2007 talking about Orton or in late 1999 talking about Triple H. The fact that we're comparing CM Punk and Daniel Bryan to Randy Orton, much less guys like Cena and Triple H and Undertaker, is hilarious. What's next, can Sheamus draw six million viewers by cutting his "Wrestlemania decision" promo? Punk's superpush began seven months ago. (And it had a very choppy, messed up midsection.) Daniel Bryan was dragged back into relevancy, as Smackdown's Mr. Money in the Bank... a mere two or three months ago.

Conversely, taking a look at what Miz did as WWE Champion one year ago in a match against his World Heavyweight Champion rival, Edge, which took place two months after Miz was finally formally sanctioned as a main-eventer through winning the WWE Championship and declaring him "terrible" is likewise hilarious.

Why not take a look at what kind of impact Miz made in his average quarter hour once he was firmly established at the top of the card through his "Rock Impersonation" star-making overrun segment on March 14 of last year? The following week he drew practically a million viewers all by his lonesome due to being hyped as "Making Miztory." (Sure, Cena did show up in the end, but by that point the overrun only had another couple of minutes left to go. And the audience had been told repeatedly that Cena was not at Raw that week, having sustained injuries from Miz's beatdown the week before. That quarter hour is almost solely down to The Miz and what he and they were able to do with his star status the previous week.)

We could also discuss how big Triple H became following the shotgun wedding with Stephanie. Or how Orton was able to finally flirt with being an actual significant ratings draw through feuding with the McMahon Family and Triple H in early 2009.

Funny thing about stars or "draws." They usually take at least some time and effort to create.
This argument will be ignored sadly... it has been stated before and even had the Austin era used as a prime example where it took a year for him to become the megadraw that we all now remember. Seriously, people seem to forget that 96 was a terrible year and most of 97 they still struggled. This was all after Austin's infamous KOTR promo.

I suspect that if Raw is continually booked more coherently like the past month, Smackdown continues as is, and the PPVs start making better booking sense, the WWE will start seeing better returns. It will jsut take time for people to trust the WWE not to revert to the past 5 years of form... past decisions do haunt a company.
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Old 02-03-2012, 03:15 AM   #1012 (permalink)
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Nah that doesn't wash.

Austin was never put straight into the title scene like Punk was.
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The Austin 96-97 is a terrible argument because he wasn't a main eventer until 98, and that's when business went through the roof, You think that every example is a history lesson or something when it was a completely different situation, completely different era and most importantly completely different wrestler, one is not even main event material and will never be a real star because he's not even believable, the other is the definition of the word badass and the total package in every aspect of wrestling. If you live in a bubble, you will try to compare a meaningless fake shoot promo with the iconic "Austin 3:16", I will go with Heyman in 2001 or Styles in 2006. After all he got, If he can't do it? he will never be able do it, not every wrestler has that in him.

Miz was a terrible drawing champion and with every breakdown Meltzer posted he always talked about how weak Miz was as champion, The Miztory segment drew a nice quarter, but the overall show rating was down significantly, so that wasn't even close to a "star-making performance".
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The Miz did actually drew better than punk, even after he got buried by Cena.

And i agree Austin/Punk is a terrible comparison. When austin won the WWE championship, the ratings went up. Punk is what 3 time former world champion already?
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Old 02-03-2012, 10:27 AM   #1015 (permalink)
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what did clay's quarter get ?
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Clay lost 166k.
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Clay lost 166k.
has clay gained any viewers since he returned ?
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has clay gained any viewers since he returned ?
35k one time with Slater, I think he lost in every segment.
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Clay lost 166k.
Lol Punk/Cena had more viewers (ratings) than Miz/Cena.
Punk gained more viewers than anyone this week and last week too, but you still
Bitch about it. And you forgot that Orton lost viewers again and you didn't bitch
About that why? Because you're a hypocrite.
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Lol Punk/Cena had more viewers (ratings) than Miz/Cena.
Punk gained more viewers than anyone this week and last week too, but you still
Bitch about it. And you forgot that Orton lost viewers again and you didn't bitch
About that why? Because you're a hypocrite.
Orton's match was segment that ALWAYS loses viewers so its ok (i guess) that he lost viewers and Meltzer said that a 220 viewer gain in the segment Punk/Bryan was in is a weak gain, so we must take that as gospel.

And Obviously if the Punk/Bryan match would've been in the segement Orton/Ziggler was in that segment would;ve lost 750,000 viewers and the Orton/Ziggler match at the top of hour #2 would've gained 1,000,000 viewers.

This argument is just a never ending circle, but always tend to have some great reading.
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