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Old 10-03-2011, 11:54 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Wow, we need someone to photoshop that ASAP (along with Triple H's face on every iconic moment in WWE history).

It sucks because truth be told, I was long him when he first came in as COO, but it's really served no purpose (in my opinion).

I do agree though, the kid has potential. If only veterans like Punk would let him finally go over.
I was just thinking the same thing. Imagine if the Attitude Era had somebody as youthful and charismatic as Triple H at the time. Hell, we'd probably be watching a completely different product today. ...Oh wait.
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OP just seems butthurt tbh. Getting all annoyed because HHH got cheered in certain instances? Buries Punk on the mic? Buries Cody/Ziggler/Christian on the mic? Lol.
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OP just seems butthurt tbh. Getting all annoyed because HHH got cheered in certain instances? Buries Punk on the mic? Buries Cody/Ziggler/Christian on the mic? Lol.
It's not Triple H getting cheered that bothered me, hell, I marked out when he pulled out the sledgehammer again. I've always been a huuge fan of Triple H, but in a way, that's why I'm bothered most of all.

Triple H has essentially fished for these cheers, and it has lead nowhere for everyone else except him. When he became special guest referee at the Summerslam "Champion vs. Champion" match, he didn't move the storyline forward at all. He did a few awesome (yes, awesome) things, and you could visibly hear the crowd chanting for Triple H. Same deal with last night, along with his firing of Nash, and Miz/Truth. It's not him getting cheered that is the problem. The problem is that he is putting himself at the forefront of all these angles that (honestly) shouldn't be about him. On top of that, he's been put in situations that are good for nobody but him, and in turn, gets to pull out sledgehammers, along with victories, while donning a suit. That's what makes me butthurt man.

His involvement is going to hurt the Miz/Truth angle, and I'm sure people will tell me "No, it's leading somewhere!", but that was already said regarding Punk. If I am wrong, when all of this is said and done, then I will swallow my words and acknowledge that I was wrong, and I sincerely hope I am.
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It's not Triple H getting cheered that bothered me, hell, I marked out when he pulled out the sledgehammer again. I've always been a huuge fan of Triple H, but in a way, that's why I'm bothered most of all.

Triple H has essentially fished for these cheers, and it has lead nowhere for everyone else except him. When he became special guest referee at the Summerslam "Champion vs. Champion" match, he didn't move the storyline forward at all. He did a few awesome (yes, awesome) things, and you could visibly hear the crowd chanting for Triple H. Same deal with last night, along with his firing of Nash, and Miz/Truth. It's not him getting cheered that is the problem. The problem is that he is putting himself at the forefront of all these angles that (honestly) shouldn't be about him. On top of that, he's been put in situations that are good for nobody but him, and in turn, gets to pull out sledgehammers, along with victories, while donning a suit. That's what makes me butthurt man.

His involvement is going to hurt the Miz/Truth angle, and I'm sure people will tell me "No, it's leading somewhere!", but that was already said regarding Punk. If I am wrong, when all of this is said and done, then I will swallow my words and acknowledge that I was wrong, and I sincerely hope I am.
Lol. It's not HHH's fault that people cheer him. Come on. If it was Punk refereeing a match between Cena and HHH and the fans started chanting CM Punk I'm pretty sure everybody here would mark out for it. This is reaching if I ever saw it. He's Triple H, a legend and a huge fan favorite. He could go out there and read the phone book and probably get cheered for it. No matter what he does the fans in arenas are going to cheer for him and the fans on their computers are going to find some way to make whatever he did seem malicious. He did everything he could to stay out of the way at the Summerslam match yet here you are blaming him for getting some cheers because he let the match continue. That's just silly.

And I can hardly see how his involvement will hurt the Miz/Truth angle when he's the reason Miz and Truth have an angle in the first place. Miz and Truth looked brilliant last night and the focus of the show is now on them when just a few weeks ago Truth was fighting John Morrison and Miz and cutting Subway promos. I think they're doing alright.
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Lol. It's not HHH's fault that people cheer him.
I think he was talking about him playing up to the crowd in his role. Like the way he announced the US title match on RAW that one time, saying WWWYKI and everything.
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I think he was talking about him playing up to the crowd in his role. Like the way he announced the US title match on RAW that one time, saying WWWYKI and everything.
That is just ridiculous. If he came out and simply announced the match he would be accused of being boring and not caring. He says it the way he did and even says Ryder's catchphrase and now he's playing to the crowd. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. How can he cut a promo without playing to the crowd? He's the COO and he's trying to give the fans what they want. If he walked out there all serious and looking bored all the time what good would that do?
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I would order WrestleMania for the first time in years if Triple H was going to bury Dwayne at WM again.
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It's not Triple H getting cheered that bothered me, hell, I marked out when he pulled out the sledgehammer again. I've always been a huuge fan of Triple H, but in a way, that's why I'm bothered most of all.

Triple H has essentially fished for these cheers, and it has lead nowhere for everyone else except him. When he became special guest referee at the Summerslam "Champion vs. Champion" match, he didn't move the storyline forward at all. He did a few awesome (yes, awesome) things, and you could visibly hear the crowd chanting for Triple H. Same deal with last night, along with his firing of Nash, and Miz/Truth. It's not him getting cheered that is the problem. The problem is that he is putting himself at the forefront of all these angles that (honestly) shouldn't be about him. On top of that, he's been put in situations that are good for nobody but him, and in turn, gets to pull out sledgehammers, along with victories, while donning a suit. That's what makes me butthurt man.

His involvement is going to hurt the Miz/Truth angle, and I'm sure people will tell me "No, it's leading somewhere!", but that was already said regarding Punk. If I am wrong, when all of this is said and done, then I will swallow my words and acknowledge that I was wrong, and I sincerely hope I am.
I think you're too quick to judge as I am being too patient to let this play out. Think of this whole HHH COO angle like when McMahon was on television during the Attitude Era. McMahon was the focal point throughout the entire angle. He ran the show. He took the wins and the upper-hand. But at the end, it was his opposition that shined (e.g. Autin, Rock, Foley). The main difference, and possibly a big difference depending on your perspective, is that McMahon was a heel and HHH is a face. Since this is perhaps a donning of a new era, it was important that the front-man was indeed a face, but I wouldn't be surprised if HHH took on a heel role later on down the line, even maybe before this year ends. Where I'm getting to at is that all of this "HHH is taking too much of the spotlight" argument is being presented without looking at the full picture. Of course HHH is going to be the focal point of the main angle. He just took control of the company! If he just spent time sitting in the back and having no acknowledgement after becoming COO, there was no point in getting rid of McMahon as Chairman other than to prevent Cena from being fired. He's at the front of paving the new path for WWE's new direction. People have to realize that. He's replacing McMahon as the guy to get over and become a star. Whether that happens to worthy wrestlers or bombs will be left answered in the future.
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Lol. It's not HHH's fault that people cheer him. Come on. If it was Punk refereeing a match between Cena and HHH and the fans started chanting CM Punk I'm pretty sure everybody here would mark out for it. This is reaching if I ever saw it. He's Triple H, a legend and a huge fan favorite. He could go out there and read the phone book and probably get cheered for it. No matter what he does the fans in arenas are going to cheer for him and the fans on their computers are going to find some way to make whatever he did seem malicious. He did everything he could to stay out of the way at the Summerslam match yet here you are blaming him for getting some cheers because he let the match continue. That's just silly.

And I can hardly see how his involvement will hurt the Miz/Truth angle when he's the reason Miz and Truth have an angle in the first place. Miz and Truth looked brilliant last night and the focus of the show is now on them when just a few weeks ago Truth was fighting John Morrison and Miz and cutting Subway promos. I think they're doing alright.
Of course it's not anyone's fault that Triple H gets cheered, that is not my point. My point is that his involvement lead to absolutely nothing. You said that he let the match continue, so there was nothing wrong with that, right? Why did he have to referee the match exactly, if all he did was a few spots that made him look good? He didn't turn heel or side with anyone, and yet he beat Punk at the next pay per view.

And by your logic, if Mick Foley beat Triple H twice in 2000 when "Foley was getting cheered", it would've been alright? People will get cheered, especially legends, but that doesn't mean that new talent should get screwed over because of it. Triple H has put people over before, I just don't understand why in this case he's putting himself at the forefront, getting involved in a few scenarios where he hasn't pushed any story forward (besides getting cheered, as you have said), and halting the progress of starts like Punk.

And the Miz/Truth thing could go in a positive direction, I acknowledge, but I don't see how they looked 'brilliant', by being pounded on by the COO after being arrested.

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I think you're too quick to judge as I am being too patient to let this play out. Think of this whole HHH COO angle like when McMahon was on television during the Attitude Era. McMahon was the focal point throughout the entire angle. He ran the show. He took the wins and the upper-hand. But at the end, it was his opposition that shined (e.g. Autin, Rock, Foley). The main difference, and possibly a big difference depending on your perspective, is that McMahon was a heel and HHH is a face. Since this is perhaps a donning of a new era, it was important that the front-man was indeed a face, but I wouldn't be surprised if HHH took on a heel role later on down the line, even maybe before this year ends. Where I'm getting to at is that all of this "HHH is taking too much of the spotlight" argument is being presented without looking at the full picture. Of course HHH is going to be the focal point of the main angle. He just took control of the company! If he just spent time sitting in the back and having no acknowledgement after becoming COO, there was no point in getting rid of McMahon as Chairman other than to prevent Cena from being fired. He's at the front of paving the new path for WWE's new direction. People have to realize that. He's replacing McMahon as the guy to get over and become a star. Whether that happens to worthy wrestlers or bombs will be left answered in the future.
First of all man, I sincerely hope that you are right, as I really want this angle to succeed. Secondly, I do think it's a nice parallel between Triple H and McMahon, and I acknowledge that the possibilities are endless.

I actually enjoy Triple H's presence on RAW. I don't think it is a bad thing, and I might be one of the people that hasn't been bothered by any of his 'opening promos' yet. Whenever he comes out, stuff usually goes down.

My problem (or fear) is that there is no long term goal here, much like essentially every huge angle the WWE has tried to play off. If the goal was to get Punk over, it definitely worked, but it was also tarnished at the end. At the moment, the WWE title feels as though it is second to this giant 'conspiracy' angle, and yet again, if that is to get Miz/Truth over, then I'm stoked, but seeing what happened to Punk, I have reason to doubt it. I don't care about Triple H's involvement, as long as he is actually pushing something forward.

If Triple H got involved with Punk, and turned heel, or made Punk look better in some way shape or form, I'd be all for it. But at the moment, Triple H fished for a lot of cheers by being special referee, and then laid out Nash in his match with Punk, and won. That didn't really do anything for anyone except him. I'm just afraid that the pattern will continue, that is all. And I wish I could be patient as well, but considering how erratic WWE's booking is, I find it nearly impossible for them to actually finish a planned storyline. Del Rio was supposed to stay champ, and yet, had the belt taken off of him because of a ratings scare. If that didn't stay as planned, how do you expect a (so far) 3 1/2 month storyline to? Especially with half of the things being useless clues (Stephanie's constant visits to dressing rooms have been unanswered).

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