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**iMac** · 07-01-2008, 11:20 AM

Credit to creative, they got it spot on last night.

I dunno how long this reign is going to last, but I'm looking forward to it, and especially his first defence of the title on PPV.

WWE_champ · 07-01-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by -Mystery-

Possibly but Orton's reign was a disaster because of the turn and I don't see Punk being turned. As Headliner said, it's alright that he lacks credibility and such because they're going to use the JBL formula.

Yeah but JBL was a heel. CM Punk is a face. When I mean that he could turn out like Orton I mean, getting booed and people hating on his reign.
Will CM Punk get loud reactions against a heel Y2J ? a heel Batista or a Heel Cena ??

WWE's Evolution · 07-01-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sivapc

Batista---->Undertaker--->Edge---> CM PUNK

Ya that's sound so great and that's going to put the butts in the seats..

Before I make the point I was originally going to make when I saw this, I'll just sum up your other posts by saying that you're a negative, biased, whiny -- and if you're ripping Ring of Honor, clearly uneducated -- anti-mark. Everyone is of course allowed to show their opinions here, but you're acting like a stubborn child who didn't get that special-looking toy.

Now, here we are. "Batista---->Undertaker--->Edge---> CM PUNK." Here's to the realism in all of us. Here's to those not welcome to a change. Here's to those who will never be happy when guys like Undertaker, Batista, Triple H, Edge, John Cena, and your other usual suspects, are stepping to the side. Here's to those who won't be happy when only Edge and John Cena are the only two from that list still actively wrestling.

Change is coming, whether you like it or not.

"Batista---->Undertaker--->Edge---> CM PUNK."

Eventually, you'll see "John Cena---->Randy Orton--->Triple H---> ...and down the road, a LANCE CADE. Or a PAUL BURCHILL. Or an ELIJAH BURKE. Or, here's a bone for you: a TED DIBIASE, JR."

Look at RAW's list of Champions.

World Heavyweight Champion: CM Punk (2006)
Intercontinental Champion: Kofi Kingston (2008)
Women's Champion: Mickie James (2005)
World Tag Team Champions: Cody Rhodes (2007) and Ted Dibiase, Jr. (2008)

As you can see by the years in parentheses, all of these wrestlers have made their WWE main television debuts in the last three years. None of them have been prominent "on the roster" superstars for three full years (although Mickie comes close).

The only other champions to have those similar statistics are the WWE Tag Team Champions, The Miz and John Morrison.

I believe my point is obviously being driven home. You're going to see more and more names on titles' history that you're not ready to see, or that you feel don't deserve it, or in most cases, both. But these superstars are going to be more and more frequently your top players; your Triple H's, your Batista's, your Undertaker's. And even if they prove themselves as top players, it just won't be the same, right?

I think WWE is starting to make that same statement. Perhaps not establishing it as a cornerstone, but giving the fans a taste nonetheless. WWE's flagship has new players as top players, and you're going to have to adjust to it sooner or later.

RatedRKS · 07-01-2008, 11:28 AM

This is AMAZING in my eyes my 2 fave wrestlers being CM Punk and Samoa Joe loved there fued just simply think there both great and one being TNA WHC and now CM Punk showing the big shocker and becoming the new WHC this is just simply priceless ...

**Venge™** · 07-01-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by -Mystery-

Possibly but Orton's reign was a disaster because of the turn and I don't see Punk being turned. As Headliner said, it's alright that he lacks credibility and such because they're going to use the JBL formula.

The JBL forumla counts on JBL cheating to win matches. That would equal a heel turn for Punk....

ROH AmericanDragon · 07-01-2008, 11:43 AM

I know this will most likely never happen but imagine how awesome it would be if ROH some how got another Joe Vs. Punk match this summer. The World champ vs. the TNA champ now that would be epic. Its not too far fetched if you look at Taz vs Mike Awesome for the ECW title when Mike Awesome was on wcw and Taz was in the WWF.

Sharp · 07-01-2008, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sivapc

Im sooo disappointed now. An ex ROH guy is the champion. Now i'm planning to boycott RAW until he drops the title.

I don't like CM Punk but come on, that was a great moment and it was unpredictable. I did not see that coming. I wasn't even thinking about CM Punk coming out to cash in his MITB briefcase. And he will most likely lose it very soon. So it doesn't matter. Hopefully this stops the bullshit "WWE loves big 300 pound man", because CM Punk isn't even close to being 300 and he is the world champ.

**MAVSFAN** · 07-01-2008, 11:56 AM

RatedRKS · 07-01-2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ROH AmericanDragon

I know this will most likely never happen but imagine how awesome it would be if ROH some how got another Joe Vs. Punk match this summer. The World champ vs. the TNA champ now that would be epic. Its not too far fetched if you look at Taz vs Mike Awesome for the ECW title when Mike Awesome was on wcw and Taz was in the WWF.

Now that would be Legendary but if that happened Vince would only do it if Punk was on Top though tbh

so it would be predictable.

RatedRKS · 07-01-2008, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ROH AmericanDragon

I know this will most likely never happen but imagine how awesome it would be if ROH some how got another Joe Vs. Punk match this summer. The World champ vs. the TNA champ now that would be epic. Its not too far fetched if you look at Taz vs Mike Awesome for the ECW title when Mike Awesome was on wcw and Taz was in the WWF.

Now that would be Legendary but if that happened Vince would only do it if Punk was on Top though tbh

so it would be predictable.