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Old 05-15-2008, 02:58 PM   #1631 (permalink)
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-LOL at his happy fans
-So he sold 1000 copies of his pretty bad dvd so what?
-When he will hold all major titles come back.Thanks
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-When he will hold all major titles come back.Thanks


I'm just going to post smileys in reply to your posts because the ineptness of your posts leave me lost for words seriously.

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Old 05-15-2008, 03:09 PM   #1633 (permalink)
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I'm not a Jeff Hardy fan (I think Matt is better), but I was happy that he's back to spark some life into the crowds, who have been dead in recent weeks.
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Old 05-15-2008, 03:24 PM   #1634 (permalink)
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repped you.

apart from the above quoted post, why are people dignifying his posts by replying to them?
also, anyone got any speculations as to what they're gonna do with Hardy?
IC title on the horizon?
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Old 05-15-2008, 03:45 PM   #1635 (permalink)
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Well he was mentioning that he had to get back the IC title before regal shut him off.
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Vodmat is the type of fan that just hates to be proven wrong despite obvious facts.
Instead of just saying "Ok, I was wrong." He continues to make an ass out of himself.

Also, they've topped another Billboard chart.
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/chart...p+TV+DVD+Sales
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An article written on Jeff Hardys future

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HOW FAR CAN HE GO?

Now that Jeff Hardy has served his 60-day suspension and returned to television, it will be interesting to see how far WWE will push him. Remember, he has two strikes against him already and a third strike... Well, let's turn it over to the WWE Wellness Policy: "In the event of a third positive result for drugs prohibited by this policy other than marijuana, the Talent's contract with WWE will be terminated."

While I'm sure there is concern over a possible third stirke, Monday's Raw told us two things. One, WWE isn't going to bury Hardy - they made a huge fuss over his return to the ring and treated it like the major event that it is. Two, WWE isn't going to feature Hardy as a main event player like he was on the verge of becoming before his suspension.

It's been well documented that there was a plan to give Hardy a run with the WWE Title either this spring or this summer depending on who is telling the story. Maybe they'll still get there, but it looks like it will be a while before they'll put that type of faith in him. Case in point, it was no coincidence that Hardy was able to deliver the line "Intercontinental..." as part of his mission statement before William Regal cut his mic.

I suppose he could come back next week and change that to include the WWE Title, but I think it's more likely that Hardy will return to an upper-mid-card program against Chris Jericho for the Intercontinental Title he dropped just hours after receiving the news regarding his suspension. It's logical from a storyline standpoint since Hardy's character wouldn't be happy about losing the title, and it's a safe move for WWE even if they give him another run with the Intercontinental Title.

That being said, it had to seem awkward for fans who were pining to see Hardy win the WWE Title to hear him set such a low goal. After all, Jeff has won the Intercontinental Title before and he pushed Randy Orton to the limit at the Royal Rumble pay-per-view. The Intercontinental Title is nice, but it's becoming a lot like the Atlanta Braves winning the National League East Division - it's a hell of an accomplishment, but there comes a point where winning it doesn't mean nearly as much as it did before.

I don't blame WWE for treading lightly with Hardy. Two strikes is two strikes. In fact, I wonder how scaled back his push would be if it wasn't for the recent ratings slump. I also wonder how confusing the entire segment was for viewers who don't read newsletters or scan the internet for inside news. WWE acted like everyone already knew that Hardy was suspended even though they never even bothered to acknowledge his disappearance on television.

Hardy was advertised for the Money in the Bank ladder match at WrestleMania 24 one week and then gone the next. The company issued a brief statement on WWE.com to acknowledge the suspension, but they never addressed the situation on television. I'm sure most fans are probably aware of what happened, but I'll guarantee you that a big chunk of the audience had no idea what Hardy was apologizing for on Monday night.

Getting back to the question of how far Hardy can go, I believe the sky is the limit eventually. I didn't always feel this way, but I now believe Hardy can regain the trust of Vince McMahon. Shawn Michaels did it. Granted, he didn't have two strikes working against him because the WWE Wellness Policy wasn't in place back in his partying days. If it had been, maybe Michaels would have turned his life around sooner than he did. Then again, maybe he would have reached three strikes and continued to spiral downward while knowing that his WWE career was over. Well, at least temporarily. There is some gray area in the Wellness Policy regarding termination after the third violation. While major sports use terms like "banned for life," WWE includes no language forbidding them from from rehiring a terminated performer.

Michaels may never have been on the strike system, but Chavo Guerrero is currently working with two strikes against him. He isn't a main event player like Hardy could be, but that hasn't stopped Vince McMahon from giving him the best push of his career as the top heel on ECW.

Admittedly, Chavo could disappear tomorrow and the company wouldn't miss a beat, but what about Randy Orton? He's had a number of incidents over the years, but no one seems to know how many strikes he's working with. Sports Illustrated reported that Orton received shipments of Somatropin, Nandrolone, and Stanazolol as late of February 2007. At the very least, he must have one strike against him, right? He's also had a number of questionable incidents that may or may not have been classified as Wellness Policy violations. Whatever the strike count, Vince trusted him with the WWE Title until just a few weeks ago.

I spoke with a source who is close to Hardy just a few days before he returned to television. This person was confident that Jeff is headed in the right direction. He noted that Jeff's friends and family were very concerned about him in the days after he lost his home in a fire. The source was ultimately impressed because the incident eventually caused Jeff to wake up and appreciate his life and career more.

Hardy is said to be clearing land on the same piece of property and is looking over blueprints for a new home he plans to build. He has also accepted some personal responsibility for some of the mistakes he's made, and he's said to be genuinely motivated to get his life and career back on track. He's also motivated about his career. Hardy spent some time hanging out at indy events that were held near his house and told friends he was looking forward to getting back in the ring.

A source also stated that WWE did not ask Hardy to enter a rehabilitation program as they did when he was fired by the company. Whether this was a good move by the company is debatable, but it shows that the company shares the opinion of people close to Jeff who say that his suspension was the result of a careless night of partying and not because of a serious problem. Again, it's certainly debatable whether someone with two strikes in a little over five years has a serious ongoing problem, but we haven't been hearing any crazy Jeff stories like we were when he left the company in 2002 and throughout his TNA run.

The saddest end to this story would be Hardy violating the policy for a third time and being terminated. However, there's also a chance that Jeff will never wear the WWE Title even if he remains clean. Quite simply, there's no way of knowing whether he'll ever be as over as he was before the suspension. The reaction on Monday was great and I suspect WWE can recreate the magic, but there's no telling whether he'll maintain his popularity when/if he regains Vince McMahon's trust.

Having said that, I believe Jeff will at least be back in the WWE Title picture within a matter of months. He may not win the WWE Title, but WWE officials won't hesitate to capitalize on his popularity by letting him chase the champion if the fans are clamoring to see it. I could even see him having a brief cup of coffee with the belt at some point, but I would be surprised if he's booked to have a lengthy run with the strap during 2008.
Quite an interesting read, its good to see things like Jeff Hardy going to indy shows and showing motivation for the business, aswell as the fact Chavo Guerrero having 2 strikes, what is very interesting is the theory that Jeff Hardy was caught out in the wellness policy from a careless night of partying, on one hand thats a really stupid mistake by Jeff Hardy on the other it gives greater hope that Jeff Hardy is not dependent on drugs and if he his able to mature and not make stupid mistakes he wont violate the policy again.


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Instead of just saying "Ok, I was wrong." He continues to make an ass out of himself.

Also, they've topped another Billboard chart.
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/chart...p+TV+DVD+Sales
It must of sold pretty well to top a list over mainstream tv shows.
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Old 05-15-2008, 04:11 PM   #1638 (permalink)
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I so hope they put an awesome fued on for the Intercontinental championship. That's my favorite title and I really wanna see good things happen with it.
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Old 05-15-2008, 05:17 PM   #1639 (permalink)
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Heres what someone posted on another forum about the Hardy DVD.

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The new Hardys DVD debuted very well. It is number one overall on the TV DVD charts as well as the sports charts. It's the first WWE DVD release to crack the top ten TV DVD list since the Bret Hart DVD and the first to hit number one since The Rise and Fall of ECW.
Wrestlezone have since reported it aswell

http://www.wrestlezone.com/article.p...leid=212903814

Well Vodmat i think that once and for all shows just how much money the Hardys really do make the WWE, just some of the names of people that had DVD releases after the Bret Hart DVD are:

Stone Cold Steve Austin
Shawn Michaels
Triple H
John Cena
Rey Mysterio

Now someone tell me that Jeff Hardy/Hardys is/are not a draw and cant make the WWE money, and some people still wonder why Jeff Hardy came back and beat Umanga and came back to a push.

This fits in nicely with what i said when i first joined this forum and people lol at me when i said Jeff Hardy has the potential to be a bigger draw than John Cena.
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Old 05-16-2008, 03:38 AM   #1640 (permalink)
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-Selling dvds is not huge money for company
-Selling PPVS and ratings are biggest money for WWE,too bad Hardyz desperatly fail at it
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