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It's scary how valuable Roman Reigns is to WWE right now.

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#1 ·
It seems like some people don't understand that WWE has no option BUT put all the weight of the company on Reigns shoulders right now. Considering they haven't created on damn single star apart from him and they have no legends left to put people over and the guy that used to "carry" the company is reaching the 40's and almost becoming a part timer.

They are not good at stabilishing stars and they almost have no resources left to create future stars, the full time roster is full of "nobody's" and some wrestlers that are talented but are not close to generate a big impact.

Reigns who after retiring Taker, has basically become (even if some of you don't want admit it) mega over as a hybrid of a guy that gets nuclear heat from part of the crowd and at the same time has a big casual fanbase that pays to see him and buy his merch, he is like a top heel and a top face at the same time.

The way I see it, Reigns is this company last hope until they manage to find to way to create stars to a high level and I won't be surprised he stays as the main focus of the main event in the next years, in fact.. I believe he should, since he is the only young star ho has been elevated to a decent level, they have no option but to trust everything on him. If Reigns retired tomorrow, WWE would be in a big trouble trying to fill the void to generate another future big star.
 
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Re: It's scary how much valuable Roman Reigns is to WWE right now.

I don't think being booked to be strong and a big deal automatically means you're a star. I'd argue removed from the booking support he's no more of a star than Seth or whoever.
exactly - case in point Brock Lesnar's first run (never drew a dime), and to an extent Lex Luger.
 
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Re: It's scary how much valuable Roman Reigns is to WWE right now.

Well, I don't entirely disagree with the OP, but the problem lies in WWE's flawed system that we've seen going forward at full steam since Cena rose on top.

In a perfect world, Reigns is kept on top while you build someone else in the meantime, and by build I mean you give someone the big matches against part-timers that Reigns get, the main event spot that Reigns get, the big wins that Reigns get. In a normal world, Reigns either defeats Taker at Mania or Lesnar at Summerslam/Mania, not both.

In WWE's world, nobody else gets big rubs like that. Then they expect us to think Bray Wyatt, Dean Ambrose, Kewin Owens and so on are booked equally to Reigns, which of course is a lie.

Reigns is valuable, especially if used to build someone who has the full support of the audience.
 
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Re: It's scary how much valuable Roman Reigns is to WWE right now.

You can't mean that for real.
Vince could strap a rocket to literally anybody that is Main eventing Raw right now, and have AT LEAST the same results they have with Reigns. To say WWE has no other choice is preposterous.
 
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Re: It's scary how much valuable Roman Reigns is to WWE right now.

You can't mean that for real.
Vince could strap a rocket to literally anybody that is Main eventing Raw right now, and have AT LEAST the same results they have with Reigns. To say WWE has no other choice is preposterous.
lol
There is nothing special about Reigns, they could take anyone on the roster and give him the "Roman push" and they would be a star bigger than Reigns, guarenteed.
they'd book someone else the same way and it would be no different.


This is delusional and most of you Reigns haters now that, giving Reigns push to a guy like Rollins for example (who actually has gotten a great push himself and has failed miserably as face) does not guarantee you will have the same thing you have with Reigns right now.

And even if that was true, you are still missing the biggest point here, Regns has main evented three WM in a row and retired the Undertaker in his last one, that kind of push can not be replicated so easily and so fast, you need recourses and time, yo need big stars to sacrificate and you have almost no one except.. Lesnar? And dude has become an aftertought himself.

Apart from Reigns, there is no a single young star in WWE with a estibilished name and that's scary, mostly for Reigns haters and deep down you know that, dude is completely alone right now as reliable top guy.
 
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Re: It's scary how much valuable Roman Reigns is to WWE right now.

It is. Shows another one of WWE's problems. They focus to much on 1 or 2 people. Look at what they've done recently. For a throwaway PPV they had a five man match for #1 contender to the world title. For Summerslam Reigns is going to be facing the champ. Why not have a #1 contenders tournament on RAW for the right to face Lesnar or Joe at Summerslam. 8 man tournament (Rollins, Reigns, Miz, Ambrose, Wyatt, Big Cass, Big Show, Braun) on RAW, could have had some good matches from that, create new feuds. No, we have Reigns and that's it as of now.
 
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Re: It's scary how much valuable Roman Reigns is to WWE right now.

Creating a star doesn't need 5 years of godly booking and retiring part-timers, especially in this era. I mean look at CM Punk, he became a star with a 5 minute promo, or Daniel Bryan who became the most over guy since The Rock despite being buried 6 feet under, meanwhile Reigns is beating legends left and right and still feels like any other guy. There's no 1+1=2 rule to create a star. It's a combination of multiple factors like talent, likability, booking and timing.
 
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Re: It's scary how much valuable Roman Reigns is to WWE right now.

You're completely correct. Put the rocket on Wyatt, Rollins, Cesaro, whoever, and you would NOT get the same results. Whether Reigns haters want to admit it or not, he's past the point of needing strong booking to be relevant. When he loses, it doesn't affect him because he's teflon. He could interrupt a Cruiserweight segment on Monday and get more attention than their entire division has for the last year. No one cares about anything anyone on this roster does nearly as much as they do about Reigns.
 
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Re: It's scary how much valuable Roman Reigns is to WWE right now.

You're completely correct. Put the rocket on Wyatt, Rollins, Cesaro, whoever, and you would NOT get the same results. Whether Reigns haters want to admit it or not, he's past the point of needing strong booking to be relevant. When he loses, it doesn't affect him because he's teflon. He could interrupt a Cruiserweight segment on Monday and get more attention than their entire division has for the last year. No one cares about anything anyone on this roster does nearly as much as they do about Reigns.
You really need to check yourself into a mental hospital and get someone to give you a psych eval because you're clearly delusional.

and the worst poster I've read on this board.
 
#16 ·
The fact that reigns is the only "star" (which btw he isn't) is that they sabotaged everyone else's push so they don't get over more then reigns. It's wwe fault, they solely chose him and never tried it with anyone else or even let them get near his "level". The fact that they didn't try to make a star besides reigns in order to get reigns over was was a clear sign that they needed to make another star.

They ruined reigns with their self sabotage of over wrestlers and it's biting them back. People are turning off and he causals don't care about any of the wrestlers due to the sabotage and what's worse they don't care about reigns either so this relying on reigns business is not happening since reigns is not a draw himself. By the way, people can say he is over because he is getting a reaction but this is what I say to you, if there was a racist wrestler who said hateful and rasicst words about any race or religion would he be classed as over. Closest example was muhammad Hussain, he was over in that case. Their is No heat, good heat and bad heat. No heat is bad for either a heel or face, good heat is good for a heel and bad heat is bad for a face which Reigns is. Reigns is clearly being pushed as a good guy therfore it's bad, their is no spin on it or bending the meaning, it's bad and if it was anyone else besides reigns they would be either turned or released but just because reigns is vinces midlife crisis personified he is not turned and it's spun as it's good when it's not. If the new day was booed like that, they would be turned and people would say that's bad and they are not over. Why not the same for reigns

Unless they create a new star they are screwed because wwe will not survive with a top star who has had THREE crowing of being the FOTC all which failed. It's a simple as that, the hardcore fans hate him, the causals could care less, the only fans who like reigns are children and they are impressionable so they will being to hate him as well.

Simple solution push someone without the reason being for the sole purpose to get reigns over I.e Braun Strowman
 
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Re: It's scary how much valuable Roman Reigns is to WWE right now.

The counter argument is of course that Reigns isn't really a star. He isn't a proven draw, the only guy that makes any difference to ratings is John Cena. Roman is merely a big name more than anything else, a big name in an era that is in rapid decline and losing viewers at an alarming and steady pace. I honestly feel like you could put anyone else in Romans spot and it wouldn't make a difference for good or bad.
 
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Re: It's scary how much valuable Roman Reigns is to WWE right now.

So Reigns' push is justified because WWE has focused so much on him that nobody else stands out? They backed themselves into a corner so it's totally ok to have to deal with this situation that they've put themselves in? I seriously don't agree with that. There are so many other guys who they could push but they don't, and that's what's hurting them.

I'm genuinely enjoying Jinder's title reign more than pretty much anything Roman does these days, that's how utterly bored of him i am at this point. If WWE genuinely think that this current strategy is the only thing they can do then they're deluded beyond belief. Roman is absolutely not a bad talent but you can't make a wrestling fan like someone by doing the same thing over and over and over again, and it 100% isn't something they need to be doing either.
 
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Re: It's scary how much valuable Roman Reigns is to WWE right now.

To say Reigns' push can't be replicated easily is delusional beyond belief. It's difficult to recreate something that grew organically, which is why they try recreating the Bryan thing constantly, and fail horribly.
Reigns' push, however, is 102% artificial, and actually goes almost entirely by "Vince Playbook How To Shove Something Down People's ass 101". Which is why it's easy to recreate.

Now, if WWE Creative could do that, different story. Because those are clearly chimps who scribble scripts with their penises.
 
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Re: It's scary how much valuable Roman Reigns is to WWE right now.

Styles is more over then Reigns in every single capacity. Look out into the crowd next raw/smackdown and tell me how many styles shirts you see. Too bad he,s 40 though.
 
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