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Goldberg's return - the most selfish in wrestling history?

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#1 ·
I'm still trying to make sense of just how incredibly selfish Goldberg was for returning. He was already a millionaire and clearly didn't need the money, he comes back and takes the top spot right away. Does fuck-all in all of his matches, does no house shows, puts absolutely no one over except Lesnar who he already beat twice before hand, squashes Kevin Owens and gets the title, gets a big Wrestlemania main event and WM payday, and then leaves. And he didn't draw a dime for his entire run. The only positive in all of this is that I'm glad the fans saw right through this scumbag and started booing him near the end. Hands down the most selfish and sickening return. Why, WHY did you guys enjoy his return?
 
#14 · (Edited)
Completely wrong on so many levels. The Rock actually put on great decent lengthed matches since his return in 2011. Unlike Oldberg who played it lazy the whole time in under 2 minute "matches". Punk is my favorite and even I was disappointed when he lost to The Rock at Royal Rumble (my very first WWE event was the day after too so I never got to see Punk with the belt), but it was an actual match with two dudes fighting for the belt unlike the bullshit Owens vs Oldberg was. That was literally Owens just handing over the belt to him for doing jack shit. Can't even compare that to The Rock vs CM Punk.
 
#5 · (Edited)
He was very clear that he didn't go back for the money, primarily (though I'm sure he received a huge pay day for it - I'd have wanted the same). Bill basically went back for the kids, for his son to see him perform live, and to please those who wanted to see him have another short hur-rah. Personally, I hated the people booing Bill, because it wasn't his fault how he was used. If you want to blame anyone, blame the WWE booking. Otherwise, booing twats can just do one and stop disrespecting a performer who was trying to do the best he could (even though he knew he couldn't compete like he used to, but hey - there was publicity in a Bill/Brock program, which they got).

I'd recommend you watch his goodbye (for now?) promo that aired on the network on the RAW after Mania 33.



Not saying I enjoyed his run (it certainly could've been done A LOT better), though no need to go calling the man a 'scumbag' and such when he was doing just what creative/Vince wanted him to do.
 
#7 ·
I don't disagree with OP, but I think this is more to do with WWE just giving a fuck about money more so then Goldberg wanted to be a scumbag...
 
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#8 ·
How do you know that he "clearly didn't need the money"?

Maybe he wants to invest in some other business or something with the money.

I don't get why people despise others for their success in life.

Personally - I don't and never have liked the Goldberg character - but I'm not going to fault the guy for negotiating a deal with WWE and returning and making money. Blame WWE for the offer if anything..
 
#9 ·
Yet another older wrestler bashing thread from this OP. Shocker.

Goldberg initial plan was to have his one match with Brock and go back home. Just wanted his kid to see him wrestle. Can't say that's selfish. The squash was Brock's idea. I think that the extremely positive reception he got from the crowds and even on here there was a plethora of poster talking about how grateful they were to be taken back to their childhood opened his mind to more and the company was willing to pay. Should he have turned it down if it's something he wanted to do? I wouldn't have.

The man practically killed himself trying to get to where he looked like his former self. He didn't coast. He could have. His matches would have been booked as squashes regardless of if he could have went in the ring or not. He's Goldberg. That's what Goldberg does. He squashes people. His WM matches proved that he could go for a few minutes.

I enjoyed his run. Owens was protected in his loss and was going to lose the title anyways. That doesn't bother me. Brock would he champion right now regardless. He was doing as he was told to do. As far as the personal finances of these performers go, I think the obsession is pathetic. People acting like they would have turned the money down because they would have thought it selfish to beat Kevin Owens in a match. Lmao!
 
#11 · (Edited)
He was doing it for his son and he wanted his son to see a Goldberg that was more close to his WCW run when he was on top of the world, not his last WWE run, why should he give a fuck what you smarky fans want?

And it was great for us fans who grew up on Goldberg to watch one last Goldberg run again and have him remind us of the great times in wrestling, which are no longer here anymore. Goldberg was the only good thing about the product for me when he was there cause unlike the rest of the roster, he was an actual star, it was good to see an actual star again and we'll never get to see a star like him anymore in wrestling, and now that Goldberg is gone now, the product is back to being completely dull and lifeless with this dull and lifeless roster.
 
#15 · (Edited)
He was doing it for his son and he wanted his son to see a Goldberg that was more close to his WCW run when he was on top of the world, not his last WWE run, why should he give a fuck what you smarky fans want?

And it was great for us fans who grew up on Goldberg to watch one last Goldberg run again and have him remind us of the great times in wrestling, which are no longer here anymore. Goldberg was the only good thing about the product for me when he was there cause unlike the rest of the roster, he was an actual star, it was good to see an actual star again and we'll never get to see a star like him anymore in wrestling, and now that Goldberg is gone now, the product is back to being completely dull and lifeless with this dull and lifeless roster.
Uhh, maybe because we're the ones who pay for the network, buy the merchandise, and attend the shows? Him wanting to impress his son in one last run is no justification for the bullshit we had to suffer through and for killing any credibility the current roster had/shitting on the talent. With that logic, why not have Big Show vs Shaq at Wrestlemania take up a spot on the card? Big Show's deserved it, right? Cause he should go out the way he wants to retire. Lmao, think a little. If he wanted to impress his son, then show him some old WCW footage or put some damn effort in. If anything, his son was wondering why he was getting booed constantly after Fastlane. It was a waste of everyone's time.

It's so funny how people constantly try to defend this recent run of his. People nowadays just love mediocrity, ey?
 
#13 ·
Goldberg sucked in his prime. He sucked on his return.

One of the worst superstars of all time Imo, after a couple of matches squashing everyone does no one any favours, it doesn't make Goldberg look any better than before it just cements the other person as a long way off the top level.

The booking did that, but booking someone with as little talent as Goldberg in that way was sad. His original run put me off WCW.
 
#18 ·
And he didn't draw a dime for his entire run.
What do people even base this on?

Is it based on a careful, in-depth analysis of year-over-year attendance, network subscription, TV rating, and merchandise sales figures, adjusted for overall downward industry trends and other factors?

or is it just "Mania/Survivor Series/RAW sells solely based on the Mania/Survivor Series/RAW name, therefore no one in the wrestling business today is a draw."
 
#26 ·
I didn't say his entire run, I was referring to his most recent from SS2016 to WM33.

And no, Big Show did NOT deserve to be on Wrestlemania in any capacity. He was right where he belonged on the pre-show. Like I've said before, a lazy entitled slob that coasted most of his career on the fact that he's big and put no effort into anything. It's nice that he finally got into shape.....at the very end of his career when it's too little too late. Thank fuck that Shaq vs Show didn't happen. Good riddance.
 
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#29 ·
Every single wrestler on that roster is doing it for their family.

10 minutes total combined action and not 1 memorable promo segment over the course of 6 months and being advertised for 3 big name PPV's. The absolute least amount of effort was given.

I'm not mad at Bill, it's business. I blame WWE. Shameless.
 
#31 ·
Well, i'd argue that the go home Raw segment for Survivor Series where Brock/Goldberg/Heyman were in the ring flanked by security guards and Goldberg being fucking grand in him telling Heyman he was going to rip his head off and feed it to Lesnar, was one of the best Raw segments in recent years.

Plus his comeback promo.

But I guess those will just forgotten because of some fans' perceptions on his whole run.
 
#33 · (Edited)
wrestlemania match was great, real talk.

it was short but right to the point, lesnar getting speared after the suplexes took me completely off guard when I saw it first time, excellent camera work there keeping goldberg out of shot, then there was the leap frog from lesnar.

the match at SS was shocking (in a good way), the rumble was maybe abit disappointing, again I state that goldberg could dispatch lesnar no problem but struggled with taker? that took some believing considering the shape taker was in and the fact that lesnar pretty much beat him every time they clashed.

overall though, I enjoyed it.
 
#34 ·
Loved the Mania match and Brock got his win back.

Was the return perfect? No (don't think Goldberg should've gotten the Universal Title), but it was good enough.
 
#35 ·
I absolutely loved it because I've never been a fan of the WWE. The Attitude Era was a fluke thanks to Austin vs. McMahon, the Rock's charisma, Foley allowing himself to be thrown off the cell and a TLC match.

For Goldberg to come in and take a big dump on the entire WWE was AMAZING!
 
#37 ·
Selfish. LOL

Vince offered him a match, he took it.
People loved Goldberg to no end, then he had TWO more matches in 5 months, and held the title for three weeks. A title that Owens would have lost anyway.

He took nothing away from anybody, he had a feud with another part timer.

So in short, OP is again ranting in delusions.
 
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I don't blame Goldberg for accepting a big money contract, why wouldn't he accept it if he thought he was still healthy enough to get in there.

I blame WWE for thinking people wanted to see Goldberg in the main event scene in 2016/2017. If it had been a one off match with Lesnar at Survivor Series it would have been fine, but they had to put the title on him and have him wrestle Lesnar again at WM33.
 
#44 ·
Pretty much. If it was just him and Lesnar going into WM without the title, some people still would have moaned because 'duh part timers', but not to the degree of what it's become since he went over Owens IMO.

People loved his return and a lot of people loved him squashing Lesnar tbh.
 
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