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In terms of a Brock/Balor matchup...

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#1 ·
If the story they tell with it is that Balor has to use his speed to wear down the beast little by little before he can even hope to beat him, I'd be fine with it.

Better yet, make it EXPLICITLY clear that the second Brock manages to lay his hands on Balor, it's pretty much over. You could make a pretty good story with that. Have Balor slowly whittle Brock down while staying out of his grasp, and when it looks like victory is within his grasp, have Balor make a fatal mistake. Then Brock DEMOLISHES him.

TL;DR, make Balor/Brock like Obyern/The Mountain.
 
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#22 ·
If the story they tell with it is that Balor has to use his speed to wear down the beast little by little before he can even hope to beat him, I'd be fine with it.

Better yet, make it EXPLICITLY clear that the second Brock manages to lay his hands on Balor, it's pretty much over. You could make a pretty good story with that. Have Balor slowly whittle Brock down while staying out of his grasp, and when it looks like victory is within his grasp, have Balor make a fatal mistake. Then Brock DEMOLISHES him.

TL;DR, make Balor/Brock like Obyern/The Mountain.
That's the issue.

Brock is taller than Balor
Brock is stronger than Balor.
Brock is faster than Balor
Brock is more athletic than Balor.
Brock is more experienced than Balor.

There isn't a believable way that Balor could last more than a minute in the ring with Brock, if they do face each other at a PPV I'd book Brock to win in 15 seconds and then have Balor complaining he wasn't ready the next night on raw.
 
#24 ·
What are you talking about believable for? This is professional wrestling. The reason you and others have fallen into using this excuse as an argument is based off the fact that the WWE has done a terrible trying to tell a story for it's characters. Now fans like you seem to think that this, or that isn't "believable". News flash, it's fake. No one could hang with Lesnar in "real life" in the WWE, no one.

Under your failed logic no one should have ever defeated Kane, Taker and we can't forget about the largest athlete in the world, The Big Show. I have watched Andre The Giant lose to Macho Man. I have watched Bret Hart defeat Yokozuna. I watched HBK become the Giant Killer and that was a story that was told. Balor doesn't have that going for him, blame the company not him. If you want to believe in the fight you are watching, then you're watching the wrong show. Go back to watching UFC. Wrestling is entertainment and it's all scripted. Jesus fucking Christ I can't believe I have to inform at least one of you hacks this fact once a week.
 
#43 ·
That was like 20 years ago. Brock's an old fuck now.

I'd be fine seeing something like Bryan/Morishima. Small problem, Finn is nowhere near as good or talented as Bryan and is like half his fucking size.
 
#8 ·
Anything less than what they had to do when Eddie beat Brock would he unacceptable for me. I'm not even sure if a Heyman turn would be enough unless there was a really big weapon shot from behind or something like that and even then I'd still prefer there being another wrestle involved.
 
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A Heyman turn to beat Brock has always seemed like the most ridiculous idea to me. Like, if he can still stand after two AA's & a Curb Stomp in a row...what the fuck is Paul Heyman gonna be able to do to him?
 
#23 ·
It depends on whether Brock is willing to sit down and plan the match with Balor.. I still don't think the match up is believable.

I said the same thing about Daniel Bryan, but at least Bryan had the 'underdog' gimmick behind him along with him looking super strong kayfabe through beating Cena, Batista/Orton and HHH in a short(ish) time, whilst also having a suitable wrestling style for 'breaking' down giants whereas Balor doesn't have those attributes as far as a lot of fans have seen.

I have a feeling it may end up being a Triple Threat in the end, they'll probably have 2 guys (Balor/???) pinning 2 others (Joe/???) at the same time, Angle will announce a Triple Threat - My prediction anyway.
 
#26 ·
Finn's gonna need some backup.............



Nope.



Still nope.



Almost there.............



Ah, that's better. Yeah, Finn would need ALL of these guys' help to beat Brock :lol
 
#41 · (Edited)
I don't think Balor is quicker than Brock. Brock has been booked to not only be strong, but to be the superior fighter and all around athlete. Brock just doesn't lose. Even if someone interferes how strong do they need to be to put down the beast? How hard can a chair be that it beats the beast. Brock is booked that strong! Like someone said, only a roll up seems plausible.

He has been beaten by two spears and one Jackhammer. But then he kicked out of a shitload of spears and a Jackhammer.

(applies to everyone, not just Balor)
 
#12 · (Edited)
Like I said yesterday, if Balor presents more of a fight to Brock than Rollins in 2015 or Ambrose last year I would be so mad. Rollins is bigger and stronger than Balor and Ambrose had a hardcore stipulation that fits him, yet both got squashed badly, and now you are telling me that 180 pounds Balor will have a chance against Brock? It's like saying that Aaliyah has a chance against "I pinned 2 undefeated girls at the same time" Asuka
 
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Like I said yesterday, if Balor presents more of a fight to Brock than Rollins in 2015 or Ambrose last year I would be so mad. Rollins is bigger and stronger than Balor and Ambrose had a hardcore stipulation that fits him, yet both got squashed badly
This is the one and only way it should happen...

Balor bum rushes Lesnar, Lesnar picks him up and hits the F5.

1, 2, 3.

Winner: Lesnar (0:10)
 
#34 ·
Oh, but it does, imo. If they are dead set on making Balor one of the top guys for the foreseeable future, having Lesnar just squash him would be one of the worst things they could do. Make him either look strong in defeat, or a true underdog baby face in defeat, so people will get behind him more for future rivalries.
 
#45 ·
make Balor/Brock like Obyern/The Mountain.
That's exactly the comparison I was gonna make..

I think it's the only way the match can work, and I actually think if executed right it could be a pretty cool solid match..

Maybe Heyman can have an homage to the book by eating something before the match during a backstage promo or something then throwing up at the sight of Balor's brutal destruction :p
 
#92 ·
Is Finn Balor vs Brock Lesnar a credible match?

Let me start off by saying that I like Balor. He has a really cool look, he has the outward appearance of a star, and is a good in-ring performer.

That said, no matter how talented that he is, would a smaller cruiser-weight wrestler - which is what Finn Balor is at 179 lbs - be a credible opponent for a 6'4" 266 lb Brock Lesnar? Or does putting Finn in there with Brock later this year and having him go toe to toe actually destroy the suspension of disbelief that comes with watching professional wrestling?

When it comes to physique and overall height, it is about as much of a mismatch as Brady Boone (aka Battle Kat) or The 1-2-3 Kid (1993) taking it to Sid Vicious, Ultimate Warrior, or Hulk Hogan. Yes, the smaller wrestler can make a match of it by out maneuvering the much larger opponent and using tricks and flip moves to try to gain an advantage, but once Brock locks up with him it should become a squash.

WWE has already gone in this direction with a Balor vs Jinder match. I thought this was treading on dangerous ground, as although Mahal was established as a lower-tier wrestler (at that point) the size difference between the suddenly muscular, much taller Jinder and Finn Balor was striking. Should WWE stay away from a Balor vs Lesnar match this fall? And would they be better served to steer Finn away from superheavyweight altogether?


Just compare Balor in the ring with Paul Heyman, and then Heyman in the ring with Brock.

Balor in ring with Heyman:


Heyman in ring with Brock:
 
#95 ·
Re: Is Finn Balor vs Brock Lesnar a credible match?



Here we go again...
 
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#98 ·
Re: Is Finn Balor vs Brock Lesnar a credible match?

Yes, it's professional wrestling. He can use his agility and speed.

But, that doesn't mean he can beat him, it just is a credible match.

Now let the Balor haters come & get their anger out.
 
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