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post #41 of 4556 (permalink) Old 04-06-2016, 05:40 PM
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Social media was outright dismissed in the last thread to the point I felt some were trolling and now some in this new thread are questioning why it's being brought up. It may not be the end all, be all, but it is a metric. I do agree that the WWE should monetize their social media following better. It's similar to an artist having 10 million Twitter followers but failing to have that audience buy their album.
Social media aint worth shit. YouTube has nowhere near the amount of ads as TV and even if it did there is ad block.
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Social media aint worth shit. YouTube has nowhere near the amount of ads as TV and even if it did there is ad block.
I'm not debating this point further with anyone in this thread. I know what I'm talking about and frankly, that's all that matters to me. Do you.
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Lol I entered the thread and saw Reigns fans discussing twitter and YouTube so I already know the way the post RAW episode went ratings wise without even having to see it. 5 Reigns has never been the casual savant they pretend he is, and it doesn't help they delivered what many feel was a subpar WM.Cena fans haven't defaulted to him and he's never been as charismatic as his predecessors. Rock, Sting, Austin, Hogan, Flair, ect, Would have lapped Cena ten times over in popularity and merchandise sales after this two year, monster push he's received. Smoke and mirrors will only get you so far now that he actually has the belt.


It's obvious when a guy has "it" and when he doesn't. The McMahon's are going to learn the hard way that it takes more than putting a guy you find handsome in the top slot for him to actually be conductive to success in that role. Him being attractive doesn't make him a draw. A WWE champ with no personality and a poorly booked product. As I said before, unless they get the belt off of Roman and/or shake the entire product up, it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better, and that goes for ratings and attendance. Wait until we're in the thick of football season.
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From now on, every dipshit taking YouTube hits as proof for how over Reigns is, will be put instantly on ignore.
I can't take that asinine bullshit anymore.

Once Raw will be cancelled for good, the last few shows will be a guaranteed YouTube hit. And I bet some idiots will take it as proof for how popular WWE was until the curtain fell.
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No. 3 Merch Seller Maineventing back to back Wrestlemanias? Yup.

Ratings falling a million from last year's Raw? Yup.

I see a pattern here fellas.


To be fair, I thought Roman was #2 , (albeit closer to #3 than he was to #1 )
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The most worrying stat for wwe is the the fall in the number of paying subs from the last wm.

Let's forget reigns for a minute because his push is just a symptom of the problem at the moment, the booking, the storytelling, the pushes, the turns, everything at raw level is failing. The crowd is going into business for itself and the product however you spin it, long term is dying.

They need to do something quickly to stop this long slow death.

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How about a short, quick death?

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Lol I entered the thread and saw Reigns fans discussing twitter and YouTube so I already know the way the post RAW episode went ratings wise without even having to see it. 5 Reigns has never been the casual savant they pretend he is, and it doesn't help they delivered what many feel was a subpar WM.Cena fans haven't defaulted to him and he's never been as charismatic as his predecessors. Rock, Sting, Austin, Hogan, Flair, ect, Would have lapped Cena ten times over in popularity and merchandise sales after this two year, monster push he's received. Smoke and mirrors will only get you so far now that he actually has the belt.


It's obvious when a guy has "it" and when he doesn't. The McMahon's are going to learn the hard way that it takes more than putting a guy you find handsome in the top slot for him to actually be conductive to success in that role. Him being attractive doesn't make him a draw. A WWE champ with no personality and a poorly booked product. As I said before, unless they get the belt off of Roman and/or shake the entire product up, it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better, and that goes for ratings and attendance. Wait until we're in the thick of football season.
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The most worrying stat for wwe is the the fall in the number of paying subs from the last wm.

Let's forget reigns for a minute because his push is just a symptom of the problem at the moment, the booking, the storytelling, the pushes, the turns, everything at raw level is failing. The crowd is going into business for itself and the product however you spin it, long term is dying.

They need to do something quickly to stop this long slow death.
The paying subs didn't fall at all. They actually increased substantially while considering the entire global numbers. They fell a minuscule 1% domestically which would be more than compensated for by the large number of trial sign ups they received of which a significant portion would become paying customers considering the retention ratio we have witnessed in this service.
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They fell a minuscule 1% domestically
That is really bad considering the network is still fairly new even if it went up 1% it would still be bad.




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