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ROMAN REIGNS Road To WrestleMania

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We're gonna need it.

Discuss Roman Reigns' push, booking, character, fan reactions (live & online) leading into the main event of WrestleMania 31.

MAKE IT REIGN BITCHES!!!
 
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#1,390 · (Edited)
Re: "Roman Reigns is not believable" ~ Don Tony & Kevin Castle

You gotta love THANOS coward complaining style, trying to bash Reigns, while trying to look smart, while trying to avoid sounding biased, but still an obvious bryan butthurt mark, always thinking the net articles and videos are 100% true.

THANOS: Punk trained with Gracie he is not at lesnar level but he can beat anyone in the WWE, or Punk says he doesnt care for belts, but he is probabily purple.

Later Punk comments he is not that good.

This thread is hilarious, Keyfabe is there just when Bryan need it. Too much bias. Not saying that Bryan isnt believable since last WM put him high in the kayfabe, but that doesnt mean Reigns isnt.
 
#1,395 · (Edited)
Re: "Roman Reigns is not believable" ~ Don Tony & Kevin Castle

You gotta love THANOS coward complaining style, trying to bash Reigns, while trying to look smart, while trying to avoid sounding biased, but still an obvious bryan butthurt mark, always thinking the net articles and videos are 100% true.

THANOS: Punk trained with Gracie he is not at lesnar level but he can beat anyone in the WWE, or Punk says he doesnt care for belts, but he is probabily purple.

Later Punk comments he is not that good.

This thread is hilarious, Keyfabe is there just when Bryan need it. Too much bias. Not saying that Bryan isnt believable since last WM put him high in the kayfabe, but that doesnt mean Reigns isnt.

So was Mike Tyson in his prime not believable as a world boxing champion since he was only 5'10 and was usually always fighting guys much taller than him which a much larger reach.?

Just because you are big doesn't mean you can fight, there is always examples of smaller guys fighting much larger guys and winning.

Reigns can't even go 5 minutes without getting gassed.

If anyone think that Lesnar vs Reigns would be a better match than Lesnar vs Bryan, then they really don't know shit about wrestling.
Reigns vs Lesnar is going to be a disaster, its going to be worse than Lesnar vs Goldberg.


Hell Meng is only like 6'0 or 6'1 tops and is one of the most legit toughest guys in wrestling ever.

He would destroy anyone in his prime even guys way bigger than him.
 
#1,398 ·
Re: "Roman Reigns is not believable" ~ Don Tony & Kevin Castle

You gotta understand too these people get raw like 1 once every year they're the crowd that be pumped up and excited to watch these are the fans Vince caters to because these are the good crowds the ones that boo the fucking heel and cheer the good guys I've seen recaps of last raw and I saw a couple of people.faces that were bored and looked like they regretted buying the tickets.


the kayfabe fan is to whom Vince listen too there's still millions of.fans in the world that is still real to them.

We see the bullshit that's going on because we watched it every week. These people gets to see them live at least once a year so most of them don't understand how politics works nor thinks that there's politics backstage either.
 
#1,400 ·
Re: "Roman Reigns is not believable" ~ Don Tony & Kevin Castle

Reigns is believable if they book him to be. Aside from losing to the Big Show on Raw (which was fucking ridiculous), he's undefeated in singles competition and has pinned a ton of former world champions in one-on-one matches, as well as HHH, Cena, and Batista in tag team matches. There's nothing that says he CAN'T beat Lesnar.

Who did Goldberg beat before winning the championship from Hogan? It's not like ran through Randy Savage, Sting, Kevin Nash, The Giant, Ric Flair, Lex Luger, etc., or anything. He beat mostly under-carders like Disco Inferno, Alex Wright, Hugh Morrus, etc. and then it was off to fight Hogan. But they booked him to show a huge display of strength, power and intensity, and thus people bought him as a threat. They can easily do the same with Reigns for Lesnar.
 
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Re: "Roman Reigns is not believable" ~ Don Tony & Kevin Castle

Reigns is believable if they book him to be. Aside from losing to the Big Show on Raw (which was fucking ridiculous), he's undefeated in singles competition and has pinned a ton of former world champions in one-on-one matches, as well as HHH, Cena, and Batista in tag team matches. There's nothing that says he CAN'T beat Lesnar.

Who did Goldberg beat before winning the championship from Hogan? It's not like ran through Randy Savage, Sting, Kevin Nash, The Giant, Ric Flair, Lex Luger, etc., or anything. He beat mostly under-carders like Disco Inferno, Alex Wright, Hugh Morrus, etc. and then it was off to fight Hogan. But they booked him to show a huge display of strength, power and intensity, and thus people bought him as a threat. They can easily do the same with Reigns for Lesnar.
Tag team matches do not count and they haven't booked him like he's that strong anyways, regardless of if that is WWE booking or Reigns being green he hasn't looked impressive at all. Seriously what singles competitions did he look great in? He has won no titles, is a hot tag guy and most of the matches he's had solo he's looked weak. Goldberg isn't even a good comparison, Reigns isn't Goldberg, he doesn't even look half as physically imposing as Goldberg.

Simply put if Cena cannot even beat Lesnar, a mutli time world champ than what has Reigns done? Rollins has been booked strong and even he wouldn't be able to beat Lesnar on his own.
 
#1,403 ·
Re: "Roman Reigns is not believable" ~ Don Tony & Kevin Castle

I dunno about the "believable" argument, cause then people will bring up how Bryan looks etc. Not that I agree with it but meh.

His just simply to me, either not ready or straight up talentless. I would say the latter simply because look at how good Rollins is compared to Reigns and their timelines are identical in what time they have spent as singles competitors etc. Even Ambrose is simply a much much better talent then Reigns. In fact Ambrose is one of the best talents today, just severely under-utilized.

Anyways, IMO he seems forced and awkward on the mic, far from ready in ring wise and just doesn't seem to get it yet. That's how I see it with him.
 
#1,405 ·
Re: "Roman Reigns is not believable" ~ Don Tony & Kevin Castle

Reigns is believable so does any superstar with the right booking even Daniel Bryan beating The Evolution was accepted(by the majority).Also He does have the potential but his future lies on his booking.
For people to be more acceptable of Reigns he needs to one of the "guys" not the "only one".
 
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Re: "Roman Reigns is not believable" ~ Don Tony & Kevin Castle

His credibility or believability is the least worrying factor for me. That all comes down to booking.

Quite frankly I just think he's boring. I wouldn't mind him in the mid card where maybe he'd the get the chance to improve but as of now the guy can't work a mic or a match and doesn't even give off a particularly endearing aura.
 
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Why can't Roman Reigns lose at Wrestlemania 31 vs. Brock?

I was just posing the question does Roman Reigns have to win his first wrestlemania main event/big match?

Bret Hart lost his Wreslemania 9 Main Event to Yokozuna went on to win the King of The Ring before winning the Wrestlemania 10 Main Event against Yokozuna.

Shawn Michaels lost his Wrestlemania 11 Main Event to Diesal went on to win the Intercontinental Title before winning the Wrestlemania 12 Main Event against Bret Hart.

Steve Austin won the rumble but wasn't allowed to get a title shot at Mania lost to Bret Hart at Mania 13 went on to win the Intercontinental Title at Summerslam before winning the Wrestlemania 14 Main Event.

The Rock lost his Wrestlemania 15 Main Event went on to win the tag titles with Foley lost his Wrestlemania 16 Main Event before winning the WWE Title at Backlash.
 
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Re: Why can't Roman Reigns lose at Wrestlemania 31 vs. Brock?

I was just posing the question does Roman Reigns have to win his first wrestlemania main event/big match?

Bret Hart lost his Wreslemania 9 Main Event to Yokozuna went on to win the King of The Ring before winning the Wrestlemania 10 Main Event against Yokozuna.

Shawn Michaels lost his Wrestlemania 11 Main Event to Diesal went on to win the Intercontinental Title before winning the Wrestlemania 12 Main Event against Bret Hart.

Steve Austin won the rumble but wasn't allowed to get a title shot at Mania lost to Bret Hart at Mania 13 went on to win the Intercontinental Title at Summerslam before winning the Wrestlemania 14 Main Event.

The Rock lost his Wrestlemania 15 Main Event went on to win the tag titles with Foley lost his Wrestlemania 16 Main Event before winning the WWE Title at Backlash.
It all depends on Brock's contract. If Brock is resigning then I don't see either Bryan or Reigns beating him, if not then yeah Reigns will probably go over. In the long run I think he'd benefit from losing against Brock in a strong showing.
 
#1,430 ·
re: ROMAN REIGNS Road To Wrestlemania

They should have a MIB match in the first match at Wrestlemania and Daniel Bryan wins. Fast forward to the main event, Roman Reigns beats Brock Lesnar. Seth Rollins cashes in and defeats the severely battered Reigns and wins the title. Then Bryan cashes in and we have a match between Seth Rollins and Daniel Bryan for the title.
 
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They're doing Reigns' push all wrong

Like seriously, they're pushing him to be the next big babyface and so far his push hasn't been the slightest bit entertaining. And I'm not talking about in terms of his wrestling ability and mic skills.

Firstly he's stuck feuding with the Big Show week in week out (someone who even the best in-ring talents struggle to get a good match out of) and he wasn't even been booked that strongly in the feud. This has done nothing but bore the casuals and reduce his popularity and jncrease the smarks hatred of him, and now, they're having him feud with Daniel fucking Bryan!?!? The most over babyface on the roster that would get cheered over Jesus Christ himself, just dumb ass booking all over.

I'm not a Reigns fan at all, I think he is poor in all aspects and is a terrible human being but c'mon if you're wanting fans to go nuts for him - book him in entertaining feuds against talented heels and make him look a bit stronger ffs, its not hard.

A new finisher would also help, his spear sucks dick.
 
#1,440 ·
re: ROMAN REIGNS Road To Wrestlemania

To be fair the way how the Reigns/Miz match went. The guy who will end up beating Brock for the title should be squashing a guy like Miz. Just saying.

Note: I took that from someone on the Smackdown thread
 
#1,450 ·
Roman's new move on Smackdown?

Pardon my ineptitude, the verbiage escapes me here at work, but what's the name of a move like that...shoulder drop Roman did on Smackdown last night against Miz? It almost looked like an F5 mixed with a Samoan Drop.

Anyone know the technical term for it?

On a side note, I'm pleased to see him putting in some new moves in his on-tv arsenal, and he did a good job on the mic as well last night I felt.
 
#1,452 ·
Re: Roman's new move on Smackdown?

Pardon my ineptitude, the verbiage escapes me here at work, but what's the name of a move like that...shoulder drop Roman did on Smackdown last night against Miz? It almost looked like an F5 mixed with a Samoan Drop.

Anyone know the technical term for it?

On a side note, I'm pleased to see him putting in some new moves in his on-tv arsenal, and he did a good job on the mic as well last night I felt.
Flapjack.
 
#1,458 ·
re: ROMAN REIGNS Road To Wrestlemania

Judging from that match with Miz on SD last night, Reigns still isnt even close to being ready for the ME of WM. Miz had to carry him through most of it, that is when he wasn't taking rest spots or gassing out. He then fell back on all his old routines. Would have been so easy to throw in a few legit powerhouse moves against a guy like Miz. Instead we got the same lazy old SM punch and spear combos. Very disappointing.
 
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re: ROMAN REIGNS Road To Wrestlemania

Except for the Goliath crap, everyone knows that a small athlete v bigger athlete isn't an underdog story?
It's a difference in talent and advantages, not height difference
Seriously... in terms of believability, Ziggler and Bryan are both far more believable than Reigns. Actually, going by actual in ring ability Reigns is the underdog to most of the WWE roster. Until he can string together a logical sequence himself, he will never truly look like a dominant athlete.

I mean, it's the same with Cena... the harder the WWE tried to force it with the victories over everyone, he still doesn't possess a legimitate aura that makes him seem like a true threat. It's been said before, but he looks like a midcarder when he stands across the ring from guys that can actually wrestle and tell a story well. There is simply a presence that makes guys seem like true threats, no matter the size. HBK, Hart, Bryan, Punk, Piper, Angle... you can list a number of guys that hover around or even below the six foot mark that anyone here would buy into in a match against a Lesnar or Taker or Andre the Giant.

Reigns right now doesn't have that presence. Cena failes in that in many matches (doesn't help booking as only made it worse... he wins not because he's too tenacious, but because the booker wants him to win, that's it. THere is rarely logic to a Cena win). I think Reigns might be able to grow into that presence though. He's just not there being in the single's spotlight for a such a short time with no marquee moments or feuds to build upon. That is why he will fail against Lesnar even in winning right now, where a much smaller Bryan is completely believable. One had time to build that aura and skill set and sense that he can win any one match with actual logical storytelling. One hasn't.
 
#1,466 ·
I get why Vince is going Project Reigns

Reigns has the look

Reigns brings in more female fans and if he tweaks his character as a tough tweener then he will get the majority of the male fans.

Daniel Bryan ....while talented is an average looking guy who is pretty small in stature. If and when the yes movement goes, u have another Chris Benoit who is great in the ring, but doesn't have the look or the entertainment skills.

Look into the past:


Hogan....a mans man, big, charismatic , good on the mic, good looking (for the time) and a big draw. Average at best in the ring,....yet had classic feuds and classic matches consistently

Rock....Big, good looking, best ever on the entertainment side of things, good in the ring and a massive draw

Cena......marine like, decent sized, good looking, good on entertainment side of things, good in the ring, big draw.

Stone Cold....a mans man, pure ass kicker...while not a pretty boy, women still liked him , great in the ring, great on the entertainment side of things, a massive draw.

Now looking at the above I can't imagine putting Bryan in the same conversation as the big 4 listed above. Reigns has things he has to improve on,....and it's not likely he will replace Cena , but I see why Vince clearly wants Reigns over Bryan.
 
#1,467 ·
Re: I get why Vince is going Project Reigns

Wow, it's almost as if the times are changing. We don't want to see big guys who will obviously win anymore. We want to see a true underdog succeed...

Ooooh, the times they are a changing
 
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