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'We' the audience are fucking cruel.

11K views 114 replies 80 participants last post by  samizayn 
#1 ·
Essentially we can make or break superstars. Some of the audience love to shit on matches, chant CM Punk during AJ Lee matches, and become very vocal about what you do or do not like. Which is not a bad thing, but sometimes becomes over the top. For example Batista Royal Rumble win in 2014 was the most shitted on thing i've ever seen before. Poor guy probably wont ever want to return after the abuse he received. No wonder we haven't seen him since he left.

But with the Reigns super-push, he's got 'da look' ;) and it's obvious WWE want this guy to be their next top babyface star. But with the reactions he is getting, due to us, his push may be delayed encase of another Royal Rumble winner travesty that happened to Batista.

Audience make or break superstars, but yeah Reigns/Batista are two examples of how cruel audiences can be. Poor guys.
 
#6 ·
How is it disrespectful when the WWE is the one being dumb and putting out a product the fans don't fucking want? if the fans hate something they have a right to voice their opinion.
 
#102 ·
Nah the biggest proof that DB wasn't in the plans is in the announcers. All you have to is watch everything DB did in the month of December & before the Rumble & listen to the announcers & what they say about him. Then listen to the announcers post-Rumble, they go from constantly making remarks about the guys looks & all 3 of them taking a turd on him to all of a sudden embracing him, it's such a huge difference in opinion that if you really analyzed it you can probably pinpoint the moment when their original plans changed.

I'm not even a huge DB guy & I could tell.
 
#33 ·
The WWF radically changed it's product in the mid/late 90s. Do you think this was because people were chanting random shit out in the crowd? Do you think it was because anonymous people were posting their dislike for the product on an internet message board?

The obvious answer is "no".
 
#73 ·
As a "WCW guy living in a WWE world" you should know this better than anyone, it was because WCW starting kicking their asses and it was either change the product or go out of business. The random chants are because the fans are bored and tired of the repetitive crap WWE keeps feeding to them. LOL at anyone suggesting they shouldn't do that and just take whatever the WWE gives to them and like it.
 
#39 ·
OP has opened a can of worms here, but I actually tend to agree in certain respects. If a guy is going out there and busting his ass, traveling every day of the year, never getting to see his family, I'm not going to boo the guy who's just trying to entertain me... I'm just not going to give them my money to watch their shows.

If I had a kid, and hired a magician to perform at his birthday, I'm not going to boo and heckle the guy if he sucks, I'm just not going to hire him again.

WWE fans these days have this mindset of, "well, I know ____ is going to happen, and I don't want to see that, but I'm going to pay to see it just so I can boo and crap on it". Money talks, and if you want your voice heard (no pun intended), show them that you don't like what they're putting out by not going to their shows and not watching the product. That would do far more than booing some random guy who's been wrestling every night of the week in a different town just trying to entertain us.





Also, the fans that try and "hijack" the shows are loser dorks who want to ruin it for the majority of the other fans in attendance.
 
#42 ·
I do sorta feel bad when Ryback is doing his Feed Me More chant and has lost control of the audience, who are chanting "where's our network" like in the UK. I mean, the guy IS just trying to do his job, and nobody chanting with him while he looks panicked must suck. Some audiences are there just to entertain themselves, its true. However, WWE putting guys in situations where they get shit on and its not their fault is pretty unfair. Like following up a co-main event with a throw away match like Kofi vs Miz to act as a buffer before the main event. Those guys are being set up for failure and that's on the Fed, not them.
 
#44 ·
....WWE putting guys in situations where they get shit on and its not their fault is pretty unfair. Like following up a co-main event with a throw away match like Kofi vs Miz to act as a buffer before the main event. Those guys are being set up for failure and that's on the Fed, not them.
agree 100%
 
#76 ·
Reigns is fine, because his reactions are still overwhelmingly positive for now. It's the smart marks (and I don't mean that in a negative way) who boo him, and they're a minority. Eventually more people will probably be booing him because WWE won't give him anything to work with and people will grow tired of his act.

I felt bad for Batista. He was just the wrong guy at the wrong time. It could have been anyone (with the exception of maybe Stone Cold or Undertaker) and they'd have received the same reaction. I was pissed that Batista won the Rumble too, and I complained about it just like everyone else, but it really wasn't fair on the guy. Still, if no-one complained, he'd have won the title at Mania and Bryan would have wrestled Sheamus. Sometimes the fans need to be forceful and "cruel" to get that senile old fool Vince to actually listen to us. It was nothing personal against Batista. It was just the fact that he wasn't Daniel Bryan.
 
#81 ·
And that's why WWE should hear what the audience wants and then react accordingly. If they're dead set on doing something and try to shove it down our throats of course the audience will crap all over it, as they should. This is nothing more than WWE thinking they know what we like more than we do. If they were really smart they would be capable of giving us what they want while at the same time manipulating us into thinking it's what we, the audience, want. That's what hollywood movies do. In order to do that they would need compelling, somewhat complex characters and patient storytelling but unfortunately patience and complexity are not Vince's strong suits, so stuff like that only happens organically due to the performers talent. When that happens WWE should be smart enough to accept what has fallen on their lap but since they're idiots they try to negate it until their original plan backfires on them and they're forced to accept it. Bryan is a terrific example of this.
 
#86 · (Edited)
perfectly said.
bryan getting shoved aside because Batista was about to be in a movie and they wanted that minimal attention from it was more important to them than going with a guy that was hotter than hell.
even anbrose, was hot but no, reigns is tall muscly and has long hair and a square jaw, so we get treated to his SyFy movie channel worthy talking and a future of cena mark 2, and ambrose losing via some Wily E Coyote - esque TV backfiring in his face.

but hey, within a year Reigns can be sent to all the TV shows, kelly ripa can fawn over him, they can trade hair care tips, talk about how he is related to the Rock, etc etc. it'll be just what WWE wants.
 
#115 ·
No, actually it's the audience's responsibility to react to things in this way. To do otherwise would make no sense. Would you expect people to attend a concert and cheer/support an act with a musician that's unprepared/off key/generally not fit to play in front of a public audience? Would you then go and buy their album because it's "mean" not to support them?

It's a weird thing with wrestling fans, and I remember the same thing when people were told they were 'ungrateful' for not cheering Batista. That's not how things work
 
#13 ·
I actually agree. The audience tends to never give wrestlers a chance. Just look at the New Day. They were having a decent although pointless match with Goldust and Stardust yet the audience decided to trash it. Why though? Have the New Day done anything particularly bad? Why do they deserve to be shit on?

Roman Reigns is a product of WWE's stupidity in thinking the fans would give someone as protected as him a chance. We needed to see what he could do a long time ago but WWE missed their chance. If he wins the Rumble and fights Lesnar (not Cena) then his career is over. WWE would be the only one to blame.
 
#29 ·
If you shit on superstars + matches, how do you expect them to get over and new stars be built? essentially, you cause WWE to scrap their push/gimmick and they get fucked over. Sound cruel now? you guys can make or break a character. Don't destroy every person you don't like. We lost Batista by doing it.
 
#84 ·
If you shit on superstars + matches, how do you expect them to get over and new stars be built? essentially, you cause WWE to scrap their push/gimmick and they get fucked over. Sound cruel now? you guys can make or break a character. Don't destroy every person you don't like. We lost Batista by doing it.
Which is exactly why it works and is a GOOD thing.
 
#37 ·
People have a right to chant what they want. But I am baffled that so many people seem to go to a show with the express intention of shitting all over the show. If you dislike something, pay 35 bucks or more to go see it (hell more if you are the smarks in the front row who obviously paid a lot for the tickets.) Then shit dislike it like you said you would... truthfully those fans look more stupid than the WWE does.

At the end of the day if they have your money than they probably don't care that much.
 
#48 ·
As much as it's hard to fathom, not all of the audience are 14 and under so we're not going to just let shitty things happen and get away with it. To the point someone made about "respecting the kids there" I've always felt like little children were, excuse me for being honest or mean, but ruining WWE. It was much better when the shows were aimed at 18+ and not kids who barely even understand what's going on or even fully grasp what a "heel" or "face" is yet.

The audience is just honest and that's something Vince isn't used to with all the ass kissing he receives daily.
 
#52 ·
Not really sure what the PG13 shit has to do with anything being discussed here. The part of the audience shitting all over everything isn't "honest", they're just absolutely fucking stupid. It has been explained why already in this thread.
 
#54 ·
If the company would make better choices with feuds, matches, who is getting pushed, etc., then the audience wouldn't be as "cruel" as they are. They pretend like we matter greatly, but we don't. Only when it gets extreme like Bryan do they listen.
 
#56 ·
As long as people keep buying tickets and merchandise nothing is going to change. Sitting in the crowd chanting shit is actually preventing change since they did buy a ticket to sit there and chant shit. I equate the smarks sitting at these shows shitting all over everything to someone trying to pull a door open while having their foot wedged against the bottom of it.
 
#57 ·
As a conglomerate, we fucking suck.

NXT crowds are great because they're all wrestling fans, same with UK crowds. Wrestling crowds start to suck when they're all there just for the sake of it like a shit load of RAW crowds
 
#58 ·
Yes, fans need to become fans again. I think in this day and age of internet experts people become too involved in ridiculous stuff that only ruins their experience as a fan. It's sad reading people arguing about workrates, what someone did backstage, draws, ect... I think that's why so many people are so frustrated now. They allow all the bullshit that shouldn't concern fans cloud their perspective.

I started watching the WWE again around 2010ish. When I first came back the product was depressing. It is in much better shape now than when I started following it again. All this young talent on the roster has really brightened the place up. I'm not completely happy with the writing and booking but I find myself to greatly disappointed in fans more than anything. That's why I take long breaks from this board. Too many times I will see things on Raw or SD that I enjoyed only to see people here acting like monkeys slinging feces all over it.

In other words, missing shows doesn't improve my outlook. Avoiding the wrestling boards and comments sections on wrestling articles improves my outlook. The internet can be a very toxic place.
 
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