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Swagger is abused

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So can someone tell me exactly what the fuck jack swagger did? He's a great in ring worker when he is allotted time..not a great mix worker but ok..

I'm not saying the guy is a main eventer but fucks sake why is he jobbing to a dancing gimmick? Why?

Swagger has the ability to be a valuable upper midcarder for the WWE. Fandango is filler, is a joke to any able minded adult, and will never rise above the spot he is in...

WWE is shit...o wow Adam rose is walking out as I type....thisshit is why I don't watch Raw anymore....

jack swagger do you self a favor leave the WWE and go to r.o.h, Japan ,places where they respect WRESTLERS...

there's the goddamn bunny fuck WWE honestly...o shit heel turn who gives fuck..heel Adam rose eeewwwwww
 
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WWE's booking is at an all time low. First of all, Fandango and Swagger could have put on a great match if given the chance. And a faulty finish would have done Fandango good. Even thou the ref was kinda holding Swagger off, that doesn't result to a unclean victory. It's pretty damn clean, and just a mess. Swagger was looking amazing before he lost to Rusev, and all of a sudden he's losing in 30 seconds to Fandango? To 3 kicks and a leg drop?

WWE doesn't know how to book anymore, and it's horrible/cringe worthy now.

NXT this week, here I come.
 
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Definitely feel bad for Swagger. He had so much momentum when he first turned heel, and was by far the most over guy who feuded with Rusev. But his reactions died over the past few months because Swagger/Rusev has literally been one of the most one sided feuds in the company. Swagger either taps out or passes out every time they meet. Crowd stopped caring about him because he comes across like a total loser.

And he's actually a good worker with a different kind of skillset given his size. Hell, him and Rusev work very well together and have entertaining matches. They should give him a Malenko/Jericho push, where he walks out on the company in shame over a loss to Rusev, then eventually becomes a surprise return to defeat Rusev finally. Seems far fetched, but the crowd actually WANTED to like Swagger.
 
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He is. There's literally nothing more he could do to be more deserving of better treatment. Dude should be a star and upper midcard, but this dumbass company can't even keep him out of being a jobber.

Guess they decided they needed to waste more talent and make Ryder 2.0.

It's literally disgusting and just evidence of the trashy, worthless, and utterly stupid people making decisions for this company.
 
#19 ·
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swagger is a big idiot with a lisp..he probably has below average IQ too. lmfao
 
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I used to be a Swagger fan during both the 'All American American' years and again with his resurgence with Zeb. Now, I don't care to see him whether he's winning or jobbing. Just totally indifferent. He's a good wrestler, just looks and sounds goofy when he talks. To the casual viewer, what are Swagger's redeeming qualities? I mean, he got good reactions for a few weeks because he was an American vs. Rusev, while Zeb did the bulk of the work.

They could probably just make a gimmick out of him being a big, clumsy doofus and it'd do him wonders.
 
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I used to be a Swagger fan during both the 'All American American' years and again with his resurgence with Zeb. Now, I don't care to see him whether he's winning or jobbing. Just totally indifferent. He's a good wrestler, just looks and sounds goofy when he talks. To the casual viewer, what are Swagger's redeeming qualities? I mean, he got good reactions for a few weeks because he was an American vs. Rusev, while Zeb did the bulk of the work.

They could probably just make a gimmick out of him being a big, clumsy doofus and it'd do him wonders.
People keep saying this, but he was getting good/solid reactions facing Rollins, Bo, Cesaro, and other people on SD, ME, and SuperStars. And like I said, it was said that his match with Harper on ME just a bit ago was getting good reactions according to the report.
 
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Swagger screwed himself when he got busted for DUI and possession before he was suppose to have a big massive push. IMO he hasn't recovered since.
 
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Swagger screwed himself when he got busted for DUI and possession before he was suppose to have a big massive push. IMO he hasn't recovered since.
And WWE hasn't pushed pill poppers, steroid users, people being busted for harder drugs, wife beaters, and alcoholics, right?

:eek:ut

That's a shit excuse and anyone who thinks that that's an acceptable reason for his current booking is drinking WWE's shit koolaid or is finding any excuse to justify shitting on the guy.

Swagger dug his own grave and he is paying his dues. Besides, when he pointed to the crowd he got dead silence for 5 seconds. That was awkward
:ti

Ignoring the 'We the Peoples' and cheers for him when he almost got in the ankle lock, though. And the match was what...a minute? Yeah, totally enough time for the crowd to get hyped and into it.

And yeah, he's paid his dues ten time fucking over, so don't even start with that bullshit.
 
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Swagger most certainly is a good wrestler. As good as his former tag partner Cesaro? No. But neither is anyone else currently WWE active (ie, not counting Bryan) save Rollins and if we are kind of reaching, Ziggler.

I liked Jack a lot during his American Eagle era. Thought he had a lot of potential then but he never really recovered from past booking bombs and is now just someone they tease for a while before rejobbing again.
 
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Swagger most certainly is a good wrestler. As good as his former tag partner Cesaro? No. But neither is anyone else currently WWE active (ie, not counting Bryan) save Rollins and if we are kind of reaching, Ziggler.

I liked Jack a lot during his American Eagle era. Thought he had a lot of potential then but he never really recovered from past booking bombs and is now just someone they tease for a while before rejobbing again.
He is over NOW. He is a talented in ring talent NOW. He is improving on the mic and connecting with the crowd NOW.

There is 0 reasons behind his booking besides WWE's stupidity. There's no justification, absolutely none, and it just proves how incapable they are.
 
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Swagger fans should be happy that someone as useless as him is still employed.
Baiting, and trolling :eek:ut

He's good in the ring but just not good anywhere else. The booking doesn't help him a ton but he has had chances before. He still needs a manager to speak for him.

Maybe they are done trying to give him a serious push.
A manager did him good for sure, but he can cut a promo. The lisp hurts it, but he can.
 
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He's good in the ring but just not good anywhere else. The booking doesn't help him a ton but he has had chances before. He still needs a manager to speak for him.

Maybe they are done trying to give him a serious push.
Clearly you didn't hear his ME promo if you think he can't handle himself on the mic. He can.

No one is asking for a Reigns level push. We're asking for him to not fucking lose in a squash match to Fandango after carrying all 45 seconds of it.
 
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":eek:ut"

I am sick of seeing that icon used for every Swagger post that someone disagrees with. We are allowed opinions. The dead silence during the entire match of Swagger's apart from a soft "We The People" is the perfect example of a catchphrase being over long after the gimmick has run it's course. He had to walk around the ring for at least 5 seconds to find a couple of fans that would cheer for him. He is still living off a gimmick that was made popular by Cesaro who WWE cooled off with.

Swagger is not over NOW and won't be until he goes back to this



And he won't be going back there for a long time until he pays his dues. No one has done anything worse than a DUI while being employed by the WWE in the modern family friendly era. This is a public company now and it is time to stop marking out. He was lucky to keep his job as others have pointed out. Emma was almost fired for accidentally not scanning something dear, it's time to bide your time. Swagger would just be grateful for the $$$ at the moment, wrestling is fake afterall.

The guy had potential and I was getting on board right up until that incident. I knew it was game over and it was time to find another horse to back. I hope he gets another shot one day but he is not entitled to it and is certainly not abused. More talented wrestlers like Drew Mcintyre did nothing wrong and didn't get the opportunity he has, Curtis Axel is back in NXT after doing nothing wrong. There is nothing to feel sorry about in this situation, he is not abused he is lucky to be on Raw at all.
 
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":eek:ut"

I am sick of seeing that icon used for every Swagger post that someone disagrees with. We are allowed opinions. The dead silence during the entire match of Swagger's apart from a soft "We The People" is the perfect example of a catchphrase being over long after the gimmick has run it's course. He had to walk around the ring for at least 5 seconds to find a couple of fans that would cheer for him. He is still living off a gimmick that was made popular by Cesaro.

Swagger is not over NOW and won't be until he goes back to this



And he won't be going back there for a long time until he pays his dues. No one has done anything worse than a DUI while being employed by the WWE in the modern family friendly era. This is a public company now and it is time to stop marking out. He was lucky to keep his job as others have pointed out. Emma was almost fired for accidentally not scanning something dear, it's time to bide your time. Swagger would just be grateful for the $$$ at the moment, wrestling is fake afterall.
first of all, I don't do that when legitimately having a convo with someone. Of course we're allowed opinions. So you can stop acting like I don't try to have a civil convo with you.

I already explained to you that the match was like 1 minute, and here's something that's funny coming from you.

Its not so much their wrestling ability as it is their booking though... if you already know the outcome then you arent going to care if the match goes too long, and it went too long. No sleeper...
So in this same case, it's not a fair argument for Swagger's minute long horribly booked matches as opposed to his nicely booked not so predictable matches?

Also the crowd was one hella smarky crowd, and was just acting silly through out the whole show.

Swagger is over, and knows how to get a reaction being a face or a heel, and he's proven it.

@Soup, I believe he's gotten better for promos, and I'm not gonna compare him to Khali, or even use Khali as a reference, but I can take in what you're saying. :jordan5

I swear an Uso, and Alex Riley got a DUI as well, so not sure what you're talking, about. There has been other busts in the WWE as well.
 
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