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THE RATINGS WAR: Part III

A long time ago, the :rock4 marks came and made the :punk3 marks so butthurt it forced the mighty mods of WF to create a special ratings thread to contain the madness. The endless battle continued through the ages with both sides refusing to give up until it finally sunk into the delusional minds of the :punk3 marks, that their hero would never come close to touching the supreme drawing ability of :rock4. Then the holy draw himself left the WWE Universe and :punk3 was left alone to carry the ratings load...or so his marks would have you believe. For 434 days he carried the title and for 434 days he was outdrawn by the golden boys :cena4 :trips2 :brock :taker and even his own best friend :heyman.

And then, on August 18th 2013, a moment occurred that would change the ratings thread forever. A new star was born and all the prior :punk3 marks had a new hero. This man's name was Daniel Bryan and he would come to change the world as we know it. This man :dazzler, with his golden mane and shaggy beard, fought the ratings battle for the common man, drawing upon the strength of nostalgic ratings hero :austin and leading the people in a battle against THE EVIL AUTHORITY. The :yes Movement was born and the ratings tide turned in his favour.

Now, the :rock4 marks are nowhere to be found, the :taker marks are crying about the streak, :brock marks are revelling in his advocate :heyman advocating for HIS CLIENT BRRRAACCCKKK LESNAR WHO BEAT THE UNDERTAKERS UNDEFEATED STREAK AT WRESTLEMANIA THE 1 IN 21 AND 1, the few :trips3 marks are marking in his heel glory and his ratings dominance, the few :cena6 marks are clinging to the stagnant CeNation philosophy of Never Give Up even though it seems like some fans are tapping out on JAWN and the :bryan marks are shitting their pants over the wave of momentum behind their boy. Daniel Bryan has come to save us, to save WF and win the ratings battle once and for all.

And who can forget the :punk3 marks, slinking away with their tails tucked between their legs and still butthurt over his inability to do what :bryan3 has so effectively done.

CHANGE THE WORLD

And so I present to you, humble plebs of WF...

THE RATINGS WAR: PART III.

LET IT BEGIN


:vince3 :yes :vince3​
 
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#2,846 ·
Re: WWE Draws The Highest Audience Since Post-Mania 30 show!!

i dont get it. why do people fucking still tune in after that abortion of a show? is it really that hard to find something else to watch?

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You and many others have to come to terms with the fact that not as many fans thought it was an "abortion of a show"
 
#3,152 ·
Re: WWE is slowly losing its American audience

According to WWE, their ratings are no good because people stream Raw or don't watch TV anymore the traditional way. Yet 44 Million people watched the Green Bay vs Dallas game. 30 Million people watched the BCS championship on a Monday, and if you have the capability to watch ESPN (channel of the BCS championship), then you'd have USA Network and would be able to watch Raw. People are just choosing not to watch because WWE doesn't appeal to them. That's the issue, it has nothing to do with people streaming illegally or using services like Hulu or Netflix. And lets not act like you can't just as easy find a stream for a NFL game as you can Raw, but the NFL is getting record numbers despite people supposedly not watching their tv's like they did in the past.

Since they want to bang on about being entertainment, let's compare them to other episodic tv shows. For shows like Breaking Bad, once that shows ends you can't wait to watch next week to see what will happen next. Very rarely does that happen on Raw anymore.
 
#3,174 ·
Re: WWE is slowly losing its American audience

According to WWE, their ratings are no good because people stream Raw or don't watch TV anymore the traditional way. Yet 44 Million people watched the Green Bay vs Dallas game. 30 Million people watched the BCS championship on a Monday, and if you have the capability to watch ESPN (channel of the BCS championship), then you'd have USA Network and would be able to watch Raw. People are just choosing not to watch because WWE doesn't appeal to them. That's the issue, it has nothing to do with people streaming illegally or using services like Hulu or Netflix. And lets not act like you can't just as easy find a stream for a NFL game as you can Raw, but the NFL is getting record numbers despite people supposedly not watching their tv's like they did in the past.

Since they want to bang on about being entertainment, let's compare them to other episodic tv shows. For shows like Breaking Bad, once that shows ends you can't wait to watch next week to see what will happen next. Very rarely does that happen on Raw anymore.
Correction

Never does that happen.
 
#4,711 · (Edited)
Re: WWE officially hits its lowest point!

Well done Seth, you uncharismatic twat. And of course the rest of the goofs he hangs around with.

Do they have to get to the 1's before Vince realizes DEAN AMBROSE IS THE RIGHT CHOICE. You have failed with Reigns and you have failed with Rollins. Check behind door #3 , idiot.
This.

Seth Rollins is the most overrated Wrestler in modern day wrestling. Offers absolutely NOTHING new, yet is treated as a big deal while beeing the worst member of the Shield with the least charisma and mic skills...and probably the smallest dick of the three.

But who needs a charismatic DA LOOK Reigns or awesome perfomer LUNATIC FRINGE when you can get this small dicked bitch boy. WWE has their blood on its own hands for choosing this guy as their "Nr.1 Guy". Seth Rollins was always the worst of the three. It's nice how he politicked out of giving Ambrose a reing...but I guess Ambrose wasn't to retarded enough to be WWE Champion as talent obviously gets minus points in modern WWE.

Reigns > Rollins

Amrbose > Rollins

Fact.
 
#2,893 · (Edited)
Re: WWE Draws The Highest Audience Since Post-Mania 30 show!!

Lets see, super controversial ending to their 2nd biggest PPV of the year, not to mention basically showing their 2nd biggest PPV on free TV only 24 hrs after it aired drew a great rating?

You Don't Say?
Oh, come on, we ALL know Roman Reigns drew that rating by himself. :rolleyes:

Ughh, how did they pull this shit off? 1 million subscribers and the highest rating in months....for this tv. The product is gonna get even worse now than it's been for months. fpalm
 
#3,370 ·
If it was Bryan/Lesnar nothing would change. The entire product is cold right now as evidenced by the low hours across the board. Anybody thinking this is solely on Reigns is being a fool. He could be as over as Austin and Rock combined and he'd still be drawing shit because of problems that go much further than him. Reigns, Wyatt and HHH are building the top 3 Mania matches by themselves. There's only so many times Wyatt can cut a mysterious promo or HHH can talk about WCW. Not only that but while Reigns isn't fully responsible, he has to shoulder some blame or at least his booking does, because he simply isn't what the majority wants to see and that's a fact. He IS over. I don't dispute that. But he isn't the most over person on the show, not even close. With Lesnar not there and Heyman treading water it's a recipe for disaster.

The biggest match on the card is being built with (arguably) Wrestlemanias biggest attraction this year not even showing up. The most beloved guy on the show has been completely left out and they're too busy building a feud with Jon Stewart to give focus to what should be a top match on the card. Oh, and Undertaker hasn't bothered to show up either yet. You can't blame Roman Reigns for all of that, not when the entire product is cold as ice. We're what? 2 weeks from Wrestlemania and they've only announced 2 matches that only half of the participants are there to build. Of course the ratings fucking suck and they would regardless of who was in the main event spot.

I really think that the winter season turned a lot of people off last year and they simply haven't come back. Sure, every now and then they give us a really good show or at least a coherent one or something happens that gets everybody talking but when you insult the intelligence of viewers for a sustained period of time, they go and it's hard to get them back. I seriously think that's what has finally happened and if this is what they're getting for their 'hottest' period of the wrestling year then they're in big trouble when things cool off. Then again, none of the big names are even on the show for this RTWM so maybe the dropoff won't be as noticeable this time around. Who knows.
 
#5,108 ·
WWE reaping what they sow and I'm just like





Hey, Vince! You want to try and push the young talents now? You know, like that one kid named Kevin Owens who had all this momentum behind him?? No?? How about Cesaro?? He's getting over as fuck again. No?? Dean always has the crowd behind him. How about that gu--

Huh, you're just going to use Cena and throw the belt on him??



Oh.....
 
#3,551 · (Edited)
We could be on a Road to Wrestlemania FILLED with new Superstars. But Vince made sure to cool EVERYONE off so they didn't get in the way of Reigns.

Cesaro was hot after last year's Mania. Was paired with Heyman and turned into a jobber and a living prop to let Heyman talk about Lesnar for 6 months.

Ambrose was hot as shit. Was turned into a loser and fell down the card like a rock. Roman beat Rollins clean in his first try, something Ambrose tried to do for months and was never allowed to.

Ziggler was over as fuck. Was kayfabe fired, and kept off TV for 3 weeks, came back and was punished for booking a comedy gig, and had to job to BnB.

Bryan came back as if he never left. Crowd loved him. Was eliminated from the Rumble like a jobber, with no storyline involved, had to put Roman over clean, and now barely gets 10 minutes of TV time on RAW.

How in the hell do they want people to see their guys as "Superstars", if every guy that gets over is screwed, and the one guy they want to get over never did anything to deserve it? The Reings booking is cancerous and absurd. They crippled the entired roster just to keep Roman Reigns over.

It's like when Cena was starting to get over, and Vince did everything he could to bury Christian, but this time, he's doing it to EVERYONE.

Seriously, back during the Attitude, we talked about how stacked the Main Event scene was. It's an exaggeration, but people talked about how everyone was a main eventer.

Nowadays, it looks like everyone is a midcarder. There are no Stars anymore.
 
#3,552 ·
How in the hell do they want people to see their guys as "Superstars", if every guy that gets over is screwed, and the one guy they want to get over never did anything to deserve it? The Reings booking is cancerous and absurd. They crippled the entired roster just to keep Roman Reigns over.
They don't. They just want you to view 1 guy as the "definitive" star while the rest are there to be fed to him. We got nearly 10 years of it from Cena, how long will Roman really last in that spot just to spite the fans?
 
#2,471 ·
Re: Rollins vs Cena BOMBS!!!

If you put on a horrendous PPV that most would agree was of an inferior quality to your development system's live special just 3 days prior and expect a good number to start off your show, you're wrong.

If you put on a horrible show for the duration of the 2½ hours of TV even if your absent World Champion does show up and expect people to stay tuned for the main event, you're equally as wrong.

Putting the blame on a young Heel for drawing a poor number when his working with your TOP babyface, a top babyface that's been at the top for about 10 years is actually lel worthy. Like a heel is your main draw anyway.

Hell we don't even have the segment by segments. The only way you truly ascertain what's turning people off and keeping people turned in is by looking at the numbers over a long period, not just one night.

Also Ratings discussions by fans = the worst. As fans should we even freaking care, the main event was actually a decent match before Brock got involved, and that's about all I as a fan care about.
 
#2,912 ·
Re: WWE Draws The Highest Audience Since Post-Mania 30 show!!

The same freaking Rumble that was buried and shat on all over the social media? When was the last time great matches drew viewers? if it did NJPW would be #1 right now.


That's a dumb comparison and you know it. But you know what, I give up, you win. Reigns winning the Rumble and telling us how he learned to swim was solely responsible for the ratings. It had nothing to do with the fact that they gave away their 2nd biggest PPV of the year.

Just know one thing... Henceforth, since he is now officially the chosen one, I will consider Roman directly and solely responsible for every single rating every single week, positive or negative.

I just can't wait for the Reigns lovers justifying the shitty ratings we will see in around May/June when the Golden Boy is wearing the gold around his waist. Should be fun...
 
#3,089 ·
About time the show flopped. The horrible writing, monotonous television, no character development, rehashed matches. It's about time people started tuning out.

Fuck horrendous television, and to make it worse, it's during the RTWM, come the fuck on now. Last years RTWM was SO much more fun, even the lead up to the EC show was fun as fuck. This year, just so boring.
 
#3,161 ·
Re: WWE is slowly losing its American audience

They don't have anyone that draws people to sitdown in front of their TV and watch every Monday night. It's no longer appointment television, sadly. Those days are gone.
It doesn't just effect wrestling either. Unfortunately a lot of great shows are in danger of being cancelled because of ratings not being as strong as desired . While the WWE may not be in danger of cancellation for a long long time, it shows that people would rather watch something they can catch up on and Netflix and Hulu being so readily available and inexpensive WWE television(as well as other good shows) loses out. Most people consume television different now too, binge watching has become very popular because of streaming media
 
#3,314 ·
:ti :ti

Bah gawd. Considering we are less than a month away from WrestleMania, this is probably one of the worst ratings results I've ever seen. First hour with 3.5 millions in the first hour is beyond ridiculous. I'm sorry, but Reigns is on his way to become the next failed pet project.

Basically, previous year, when the RTWM was centered around Bryan, 1 more million people were watching. They thought they could get away with everything and clearly they couldn't.
 
#3,339 · (Edited)
Hmmm, it's funny how quiet this thread was when Bryan vs Seth dropped in viewership in the Main event too. Or the excuses pulled out your asses when it happened.

I loved how most of the show was built around Jon Stewart and Seth-who had 5 segments and a match- but it's Romans fault??? Roman, the guy whose feud can't be built up because Brock is never freaking here?? OK :lol

Hit me up when Roman is actually in awesome segments worth investing in instead of just promos after dumbass promos.


And comparing it to last year??? When we had Shield, Wyatts, Batista, an Authority who were on top of their game and garnering mega heat with a Daniel Bryan who was in a very organic and big storyline?? Are we forgetting all the great segments we got out of that??

Comparing last year to the lazy as fuck Mania build we are getting this year is asinine. WWE isn't even putting half the effort this year.
 
#3,371 · (Edited)
^ Good post Starbuck.

I don't poke my nose in here much anymore because it's difficult to really attribute anything to a specific storyline or wrestler without quarter hour/minute breakdowns like we used to have.

It would be hypocritical to criticise Reigns for an overall rating and defend Punk when the overall ratings were crap for him in December 2012, while disregarding the fact that he had the highest rated segments on those shows.

Without more detailed information there's no point digging deeper.

Like you said, it's the overall direction of the show that's causing this imo. There are feuds that are terribly booked and one-sided where it almost seems like a wrestler is feuding with themselves and talking merely to hear their own voices. That shouldn't happen on the road to mania imo.

The show's doing poorly because the Mania hype just sucks overall and nothing is being built to a fever pitch, and if WWE is trying to, the crowd isn't buying it. This goes for every match from Wyatt/Taker, HHH/Sting, Lesnar/Reigns, Cena/Rusev (still not official), and the IC ladder match.

The majority could care less about any of these and it's evident in the reactions anytime the feud implications are teased.
 
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