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Re: CESARO aka "The King Of Swing" is a Paul Heyman Guy

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There will probably never be another Real Americans tag team. People keep pushing this idea but it makes no sense whatsoever for Zeb/Swagger to trust some again, especially when you guys mention people who ARE immigrants...seriously. It doesn't make sense.

And no, Swagger and Kofi is a horrible tag idea. One's a high flyer and barely 6 feet, the other is closer to 7 feet and a powerhouse/grappler and they wouldn't be compatible at all.

Cesaro should get the IC title if anything, he had the US title and his reign was forgettable and didn't have any impact.
Hopefully this means that Swagger with Zeb will stay out of the tag team scene and he can get built up as a credible heel in the midcard. There are enough jobbers there already and Swagger doesn't need to be one. Big E Langston, Cesaro, Barrett, & Sheamus need legit opponents if the midcard is to be relevant again.

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Re: CESARO aka "The King Of Swing" is a Paul Heyman Guy

The springboard uppercut from Smackdown.

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The springboard uppercut from Smackdown.

Very impressive. I also enjoyed that tiger suplex that he actually executed seamlessly on Swagger. Those two have perfect timing. My only critique is they both sell moves kinda goofy...so when they're going back and forth it gets a little cartoonish.



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Re: CESARO aka "The King Of Swing" is a Paul Heyman Guy

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So he doesn't even have a gimmick and people say it will get old. LOL...

anyway is he heel or face?
He's a face in the role of a heel managed by a heel that the audience wants to see as a face and the other performers keep telling to be a face.

Very straightforward.
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And he's also feuding with a heel while being overshadowed by another heel. This whole thing has been executed pretty awkwardly so far. Though I do love the idea of the pairing.

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And he's also feuding with a heel while being overshadowed by another heel. This whole thing has been executed pretty awkwardly so far.

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Awkward is literally the perfect word to describe everything with Cesaro post WM.

And WWE are doing a poor job on wanting people like me, who aren't completely infatuated with Cesaro, for him to turn face. He seems more of a heel out of the Swagger situation and that's a really dumb thing on WWE's part.



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Re: CESARO aka "The King Of Swing" is a Paul Heyman Guy

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Awkward is literally the perfect word to describe everything with Cesaro post WM.

And WWE are doing a poor job on wanting people like me, who aren't completely infatuated with Cesaro, for him to turn face. He seems more of a heel out of the Swagger situation and that's a really dumb thing on WWE's part.
With me it's because the way they're handling this pairing. It's getting to the point where I'm starting to change the channel whenever Heyman starts a promo and that's something I never thought I'd say. Starting to lose interest.


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Re: CESARO aka "The King Of Swing" is a Paul Heyman Guy

For me it's gotten to a point where I'm face palming throughout the entire thing. Cesaro is still a face. But his manager is a heel. Swagger is a heel but his manager is a face.

Good job WWE. This is not complexity that compels one to watch, it's a dynamic one actually faces internal opposition to. Like looking at a crooked painting and wanting to fix it.
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Re: CESARO aka "The King Of Swing" is a Paul Heyman Guy

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For me it's gotten to a point where I'm face palming throughout the entire thing. Cesaro is still a face. But his manager is a heel. Swagger is a heel but his manager is a face.

Good job WWE. This is not complexity that compels one to watch, it's a dynamic one actually faces internal opposition to. Like looking at a crooked painting and wanting to fix it.
I'd have to disagree with this. Cesaro is being a cocky asshole, waving his hand at Swagger on Smackdown was just one example of it. He's a heel, and his backstage segments and the whole way he carries himself reinforces it. Heyman is obviously heel. And, imho, Swagger and Colter are playing the part of tweeners, teetering towards faces. Save for Swagger interfering with Cesaro's match, he hasn't done anything heel-ish in weeks and even then it's not like faces /never/ interfere with matches. And the commentary solidified to me that it wasn't just Colter he was playing a face, but Swagger as well. Week after week it's been nothing but Swagger is jealous, but suddenly they're playing up the angle that Swagger upset, that he feels hurt that Cesaro betrayed him. We're supposed to sympathize with Swagger and Colter at this point, I believe.

I think your second point rings true for Heyman/Cesaro, though.

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With me it's because the way they're handling this pairing. It's getting to the point where I'm starting to change the channel whenever Heyman starts a promo and that's something I never thought I'd say. Starting to lose interest.
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Re: CESARO aka "The King Of Swing" is a Paul Heyman Guy

@Thwagger - I meant Cesaro is a face for the fans ... His antics are heelish pre-match, but because of his swing and actual face moveset, during the match people are forgetting he's supposed to be a heel and he himself starts pandering around like a face.

Tehnically, I know he's supposed to be a heel. The question is .. does he know that he's a heel?
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