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Old 10-18-2013, 10:02 PM   #41 (permalink)
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LeBron is an amazing talent. I don't think anyone is doubting that. He has become a complete player. He is a douche though. I also don't like superstars who hide from the ball when the game is on the line. He doesn't have that killer instinct like Bird, Magic, Jordan, Hakeem and Kobe did/does. That is what you want your of the face of your franchise. LeBron is probably better than Kobe (or will be) but I think you youngens are unaware of how good Jordan really was.
I think that LeBron is the most naturally gifted player of all time, but that definitely doesn't make him the smartest.That would be Larry Bird all day long. I agree with what Jordan said about it being a bitch move to leave Cleveland. It is absolutely pathetic that Miami hasn't won the championship each year those 3 have been together and they should have won 70 games each year. They basically manipulated the system to have an all star team and 66 games is the best they can do? I laughed my ass off at how much they struggled with an aging Spurs team in the Finals.
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:06 PM   #42 (permalink)
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LeBron is an amazing talent. I don't think anyone is doubting that. He has become a complete player. He is a douche though. I also don't like superstars who hide from the ball when the game is on the line. He doesn't have that killer instinct like Bird, Magic, Jordan, Hakeem and Kobe did/does. That is what you want your of the face of your franchise. LeBron is probably better than Kobe (or will be) but I think you youngens are unaware of how good Jordan really was.
Does everyone forget the game he had against Detroit where he scored like 29 of his teams last 30 points to win them the game on his own, in Detroit. Guy was really young there and did something that would be hard to repeat, wouldn't that count as killer instinct? Do you still think he "hides" from the ball after the last few seasons? And many people who don't like Lebron call him a douche, i don't know him personally so i can't say whether he is or not.

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I think that LeBron is the most naturally gifted player of all time, but that definitely doesn't make him the smartest.That would be Larry Bird all day long. I agree with what Jordan said about it being a bitch move to leave Cleveland. It is absolutely pathetic that Miami hasn't won the championship each year those 3 have been together and they should have won 70 games each year. They basically manipulated the system to have an all star team and 66 games is the best they can do? I laughed my ass off at how much they struggled with an aging Spurs team in the Finals.
They've been to the finals every year since theyve been together. Should have a title for every year but they came up short in their first attempt. They should win 70 games each year? Don't see how they manipulated the system either, all of them were free agents and signed together. Whats wrong with that?
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Ah, I see I've angered the die-hard Kobe fan.

I leave this stat here.

2010 NBA Finals.
Pau Gasol: 1.52 Win shares.
Kobe Bryant: 1.14 Win Shares.

Also 4 tpg and 40% from the field for the series, he's up there for WOAT finals MVP.

Orly? Nice stats. Did you watch the series? Did you see how Kobe allowed to run away with game 6? Did you see Kobe grab all those rebounds and make all those hustle plays when he was missing all those shots in game 7? Were you were he scored 10 points in the fourth of game 7 and hit all his free throws? Did you notice he gave us most of our scoring punch in all of those games? He was our only true perimeter option as well, unless you think Fisher, Farmer, Brown, Walton, and Metta were helping much?


I don't give a fuck about win shares as a stat and the majority of knowledgeable NBA posters around here don't either. If you're going to sit here and tell me a guy doesn't deserve the finals MVP because you can list two stats and not back up any of it with what actually happened during the game then your opinion is pretty much worthless to me.
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:20 PM   #44 (permalink)
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LeBron is one of the most naturally gifted basketball players ever. It's laughable to think he is on the same planet as a guy like Jordan. MAYBE in a few more years.

Soup Bro...you have never called an athlete you have never met a douche? Doubtful my man.

Yes he still runs from the ball in crunch time. Some 4th quarters he disappears. That has improved yes but sorry his drive has nothing on guys like Jordan, Magic, Bird, etc. Even Kobe in his prime.
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I find it kind of hilarious that Lebron fans are still bringing up what happened 7 years ago in the ECF to defend Lebron. Mostly because there far better recent examples to use to defend him. Examples that the majority of you can't use as you're all casuals.
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I'm not as die hard NBA as I am MLB, college baseball, football, basketball and NHL but I watch quite a bit of playoff basketball. LeBron HAS gotten much better. Nobody is saying he isn't great. I don't think anyway. Best player in the NBA by a mile. But all the Jordan comparing makes my dick soft.
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Orly? Nice stats. Did you watch the series? Did you see how Kobe allowed to run away with game 6? Did you see Kobe grab all those rebounds and make all those hustle plays when he was missing all those shots in game 7? Were you were he scored 10 points in the fourth of game 7 and hit all his free throws? Did you notice he gave us most of our scoring punch in all of those games? He was our only true perimeter option as well, unless you think Fisher, Farmer, Brown, Walton, and Metta were helping much?


I don't give a fuck about win shares as a stat and the majority of knowledgeable NBA posters around here don't either. If you're going to sit here and tell me a guy doesn't deserve the finals MVP because you can list two stats and not back up any of it with what actually happened during the game then your opinion is pretty much worthless to me.
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They've been to the finals every year since theyve been together. Should have a title for every year but they came up short in their first attempt. They should win 70 games each year? Don't see how they manipulated the system either, all of them were free agents and signed together. Whats wrong with that?
I have to respectfully ask why you think it is laughable that I believe that they should have won 70 games each year. THe 60's Celtics are the only other team that comes to mind when I think of a team's level of talent being so lopsided when compared to the rest of the NBA.

Manipulated was too strong of a word there. Let rephrase. They didn't manipulate it, but they surely took advantage of the opportunity and while I can't fault them for that it just bothers me personally.
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If you're going to sit here and tell me a guy doesn't deserve the finals MVP because you can list two stats and not back up any of it with what actually happened during the game then your opinion is pretty much worthless to me.
How do you know he's not standing?
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Maybe because that example from 7 years ago was that great. One of the greatest performances ever. Yeah there are many examples from the last few years but i'd rather choose one from when he was a much younger player to actually show he had that killer instinct some say he doesn't have.

I thought Kobe in crunch time was make believe? Wasn't there this article on espn a few years ago that showed he was among the bottom when it came to crunch time moments?
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