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Old 02-24-2013, 05:17 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Even 'Chopi chopi pee pee'?
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:32 PM   #42 (permalink)
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What do you mean by "even"? That shit was fucking hilarious. TV gold
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:38 PM   #43 (permalink)
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The "peak of human creativity"?
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:41 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Yep. But moreso his WCW run than WWF. Attitude Era was great, but WCW 99 Russo era was pure unadulterated gold. I don't think I've ever laughed harder than seeing Disco Inferno pouring spaghetti sauce over Johnny the Bull and Big Vito. Or when that skinny bald lawyer no sold Goldberg's spear. Or THE BLOCK with Jerry Flynn.. that shit was epic. Norman Smiley vs. Rhonda, probably the best hardcore match in history. The powers that be/the powers to be. Creative Control .. Chavo as a salesman, David Flair the maniac. The Maestro accidentally walking into The Block and getting his ass handed to him by Jerry Flynn Buzzkill on commentary. Every match ending in a run-in, and no match lasting more than 2 minutes. More skits and promos than wrasslin'. Chris Benoit vs. Dean Malenko in a street fight in their jeans.. fuck boring chain wrestling. Badass as fuck. World Title matches every week. Title tournaments.. Constant mysteries, swerves.

Every jobber on the show was interesting, and every main eventer was cool as fuck. The Outsiders fucking about, Goldberg spearing whoever he wanted, headbutting soda machines to make the can fall out instead of paying for it Berlyn and The Wall. Jeff Jarrett randomly smashing his guitar over Mike Tenay's head. The list is endless, really. Even Vampiro was 10 x cooler than half the mid-card in WWE today

I dunno why people hate on all that stuff so much, it was just the best era of wrestling ever.

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Old 02-24-2013, 06:02 PM   #45 (permalink)
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You're beyond help I'm afraid.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:08 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Even 'Chopi chopi pee pee'?
Midcarders like Curt Hawkins, Tyson Kidd or the Usos would kill to be in a chopi chopi pee pee storyline just to be on the show, to be relevant and have a gimmick. That's why midcarders like Val Venis or Taka Michinoku were more over than some current main eventers.
What's wrong with a funny storyline or segment like chopi chopi? That was a storyline for midcarders, some people act like Austin, the Rock or Undertaker acted in those storylines.

The Russo philosophy is to give everybody a storyline and a gimmick. Give the main eventers some dramatic and serious stories while the midcarders will take part in funny, light-hearted storylines. It was never supposed to be that the midcard and undercard storylines were serious like the storylines of the main eventers
Everybody of the current midcarders would lie if they say that they don't want Vince Russo back because all they have to do is watching some old videos and read some old magazines during the Russo WWE era to see how the midcarders were treated back then. Hell, even some main eventers who are not really used at all like Randy Orton or Rey Mysterio would wish someone creative like Russo back
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:28 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Perfectly said DualShock, as always. It's amazing the stacked roster of talent Russo had to work with in both WWF and WCW, yet still found time to have angles going on for absolutely everyone up and down the card. Sign of a great writer.

In my post I focused a lot on the hilarious comedy, which is just one thing Russo is great at writing, but I neglected to mention some of the awesome main event feuds he created as well. Rock/Austin, Austin/McMahon, The Ministry of Darkness, Austin/HBK. Awesmoe main event characters like Mankind, DX, Kane, Edge and Christian.

While most of the characters were already "created" when he got to WCW, he still managed to create main eventers out of guys like Chris Benoit, even when the roster was absolutely stacked with main event talent already (Nash, Hall, Goldberg, Sid, Hogan, Flair, Macho Man, Luger, Bret, the list goes on and on..). Modern WWE can't even create a single talent at the level of John Cena. They've tried with Punk for almost 2 years now, but he just isn't going to make it to that truly top tier level, as much as they try.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:31 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Maybe. I legitimately view Russo era wrestling as the peak of human creativity, so I think everything else seems to pale in comparison

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I don't think Russo can take all the credit for his contribution to the "peak of human creativity" though. Ed Ferrara was very influential, perhaps more so than Russo, in making all of those angles and characters so great. You know what they say. Behind every great man there is an even greater woman. Luckily for Ed, he had Russo right behind him.
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:53 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Midcarders like Curt Hawkins, Tyson Kidd or the Usos would kill to be in a chopi chopi pee pee storyline just to be on the show, to be relevant and have a gimmick.
Those guys are well happy being enhancement talents. Kidd doesn't mind, I hear he enjoys it. Hawkins is just happy to be there.
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