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post #141 of 193 (permalink) Old 02-06-2013, 09:54 AM
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Re: Kofi and Swagger: Which of these wrestlers has less worth?

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I won't pretend Jeff Hardy doesn't have charisma. That's pretty much ALL he has though, IMO.

It's not enough

Like Kofi (and swagger) he also knows how to suck the life out of a championship belt too. Currently working his magic in TNA.
Coupled in with good bumping and I'll say fair enough.

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That's why I think Kofi belongs on the lower midcard. He is still an over face who can make other wrestlers look good whilst jobbing with the odd win every now and again to maintain credibility. Just keep him the fuck away from the belt plz,

Meanwhile Swagger has zero worth and just needs to disappear completely.
See, I just don't get that mentality. I don't see how the guy is completely "worthless" to some people. He's a good talent and capable of working interesting matches. If that's not a key player to have on your roster, then idk what is. He's got something Kofi doesn't have - real ability work in that ring. If someone is going to be on the lower card and put people over then THAT'S what you want. Not some guy who can get a part of the crowd behind him only to job two seconds later. They're into the match, ok cool. They should be into everything or else why would they attend. It's such a flimsy excuse if you ask me. Not saying Kofi isn't fine in his current role, but to say Swagger isn't or couldn't be as a "Bobby Eaton circa late 90's" type of worker, is where I raise my eyebrow.

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Re: Kofi and Swagger: Which of these wrestlers has less worth?

They're both equal. If Biff Tannen had a slower brother, I could picture it being Swagger. He performs moves and taunts like he's got a stick wedged in his rectum.. probably from all the bending over he did to be able to win MITB years ago (which nobody fucking remembers anyway). Kofi is a glorified and obnoxious spot monkey who proves you don't necessarily need talent to have your dream job.
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Re: Kofi and Swagger: Which of these wrestlers has less worth?

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Reasons why I think Jack Swagger is worthless:

. Is supposed to be a heel but is goofy looking but can't be taken seriously.
. When he left hardly anyone cared
. When he came back hardly anyone cared
. He has good technical ability but isn't really capable of making another wrestler look good in the ring
. Doesn't know how to tell a story in the ring
. is embarrasing on the mic with his lithp
. Doesn't know how to get heat
. Putting him in the ring with another babyface doesn't really do either of them any favours.
. There were already plenty of jobbers on the roster, that can do a better job than swagger and exhibit qualities that Swagger lacks (see above) Gabriel, Kidd, etc

So that's why I think Jack Swagger is worthless.

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Re: Kofi and Swagger: Which of these wrestlers has less worth?

Swagger and I say that with little hesitation.



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Re: Kofi and Swagger: Which of these wrestlers has less worth?

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@Hayley

Reasons why I think Jack Swagger is worthless:

. Is supposed to be a heel but is goofy looking but can't be taken seriously.
. When he left hardly anyone cared
. When he came back hardly anyone cared
. He has good technical ability but isn't really capable of making another wrestler look good in the ring
. Doesn't know how to tell a story in the ring
. is embarrasing on the mic with his lithp
. Doesn't know how to get heat
. Putting him in the ring with another babyface doesn't really do either of them any favours.
. There were already plenty of jobbers on the roster, that can do a better job than swagger and exhibit qualities that Swagger lacks (see above) Gabriel, Kidd, etc

So that's why I think Jack Swagger is worthless.
I'll comment on the bolded parts:

A lot of people can leave and nobody will care. That's the WWE. A lot are expendable. Including upper talent like an Alberto Del Rio or Dolph Ziggler.

He's proven to elevate while in the ring. Maybe not often or of the nature of a Bryan Danielson, but he has the capabilities. One of Kaval's best match in the company was thanks to working with Swagger. Both men fed off each other's styles nicely. Brought out the best in both.

Shenanigans. His matches with Mysterio told very good stories actually. Not to mention the absolute TOPS aka his classic with Christian on 2/24/09. That speaks for itself. It's like Jordan's many Championship rings. It's the only claim you need to bring up.

He got heat when he was in the middle of his push. So easy answer to this is the obvious: give the guy something and apparently the fans will react. That's no different than with a lot of his matches being cut down for time on TV and not getting a chance to really connect. I know he doesn't have charisma, but to say it's impossible to garner any form of heat is false.

I don't really get that point. He's a heel. He's supposed to work vs a face. Unless you're implying EVERY face he could work with has him trumped. Which I can firmly disagree with.

Face jobbers. Sure. Heel jobbers not so much. He's miles ahead of guys like JTG, Colons, or Michael McGillicutty. Only current lower card heel who could rival him is Curt Hawkins. Not much else out there on that front.

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Kofi is probably the worst wrestler on the roster right now.
People like Khali and Otunga are still on the roster so that's automatically not true.

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I'd say Otunga is better. Khali is definitely THE worst, but hell, he can't walk so he kinda has an excuse.
Now you're just trolling. You're just like Walk-In when it comes to Kofi.

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