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Mithro · 01-16-2013, 11:34 AM

You already said you wanted to ban all firearms, you don't give a shit about the constitution, you don't give a shit about our country's founding, so you aren't worth the time that it would take to argue with.

Are you foreign? If you were I'd be more likely to understand why you hold that position, as you aren't a part of this country.

**Karma101** · 01-16-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mithro

You already said you wanted to ban all firearms, you don't give a shit about the constitution, you don't give a shit about our country's founding.

Why should we care when it happened hundreds of years ago? It is irrelevant today, get over it.

**Glass Shatters** · 01-16-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Karma101

Why should we care when it happened hundreds of years ago? It is irrelevant today, get over it.

This post is just half

and half

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HitMark · 01-16-2013, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mithro

You already said you wanted to ban all firearms, you don't give a shit about the constitution, you don't give a shit about our country's founding, so you aren't worth the time that it would take to argue with.

Are you foreign? If you were I'd be more likely to understand why you hold that position, as you aren't a part of this country.

This dude is right. If you're not a part of MUHrica, then fuck you. You no MUHrica, you no deserve to talk about MUHrica.

The problem is quite easy to understand. So is the solution. There is nothing profoundly different or hard to understand about America's guns problem.

**GOON The Legend** · 01-16-2013, 11:57 AM

The United States government has been tyrannical for decades and has been getting worse and worse with each President.

Shocker so many people put their trust into this government.

KatKayson · 01-16-2013, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HitMark

People need to stop the cliched arguments.
"If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns"
"If guns kill people, should we ban cars too"
"If the government takes away your guns, they are going to enslave you and kill you"
"Guns don't kill people, people kill people"
Huh, liberals"
"MUHrica"
"My gun is my freedom"
People should try to come up with something new. Also, life and decisions are based on catchy slogans and phrases. We hear these things time and again and it's getting tiresome, almost ineffective.

P.S my favourite of these is, (though not related to gun control)" It's adam and eve, not adam and steve".
Setup, pause and punchline republicans

So just because those arguments are used we shouldn't use them?

**JOAL.com** · 01-16-2013, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GOON The Legend

The United States government has been tyrannical for decades and has been getting worse and worse with each President.

Shocker so many people put their trust into this government.

When will enough become enough though?

Mithro · 01-16-2013, 12:02 PM

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When will enough become enough though?

People aren't gonna stand up to them til the shit actually hits the fan, when people are starving, and the government pushes through even more diabolical shit.

Life is just too comfortable for people to really do anything, maybe after a real economic collapse, leading to chaos, maybe martial law and then them trying some hardcore tyrannical stuff.

HitMark · 01-16-2013, 12:07 PM

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So just because those arguments are used we shouldn't use them?

Wouldn't that mean every possible angle has been discussed?I don't think that's the case. How about some new arguments? Something based on concrete from numerous,unbiased, solid studies rather than just catchy slogans. I personally blame Frankie Luntz and his type.
Arguments aren't won by soundbites. Just infuriating to see people say the same things over and over again.
These one, barring a few, are used excessively, giving the impression some people are just mindless drones, repeating the same thing over and over again.And the replies to these are pre-planned as well. Basically, no real debate is happening. People are just typing the arguments that they remember and heard from other places. Similar discussion, almost eerily similar is found all over the internet about this issue.
It leads me to doubt whether people actually believe in their position or are just trying to win the argument for the sake of winning the argument.

**Karma101** · 01-16-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Glass Shatters

This post is just half

and half

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Sorry. I don't understand why laws that were made hundreds of years ago stop you from changing things now. Please explain it to me.