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Hilarious that people that are against "assault rifles" don't even know what they are. They all think they're automatic military weapons, or machine guns.
were you in the military Mithro?

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Obama is a massive pleb though. Romney was sound!
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No, but I'm just saying that assault weapons are basically semi-auto rifles, or shotguns with extra shit added on it, like a bayonet mount, or a pistol grip, or a flash suppressor.

I've heard too many people confuse assault rifles, and automatic weapons online. It's annoying.

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No, but I'm just saying that assault weapons are basically semi-auto rifles, or shotguns with extra shit added on it, like a bayonet mount, or a pistol grip, or a flash suppressor.

I've heard too many people confuse assault rifles, and automatic weapons online. It's annoying.
with the dictatorial mandate obama can change what constitutes an "assault rifle" at any time too... that worries me more than anything. The guy makes decisions that are not a president's to make. He bypasses the other two parts of the government that are in place to protect against him, and people are to stupid to notice.




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No, but I'm just saying that assault weapons are basically semi-auto rifles, or shotguns with extra shit added on it, like a bayonet mount, or a pistol grip, or a flash suppressor.

I've heard too many people confuse assault rifles, and automatic weapons online. It's annoying.
It's very annoying. In fact when I was in the US Navy, we used to get beat down if we called an M-16, an M-4, a .50 cal, or an M249 a machine gun. However, we also had to get tested every few months to be sure we remembered the 4 weapon safety rules, were able to shoot efficiently, and the basics of handling a weapon safely. that was our job 24/7, and we still were tested monthly.

an 18 year old who can walk into a store and purchase an AR-15 for self defense purpose after only a month or two of qualifying and waiting, then not having to re-qualify for a couple of years; that sounds strange to me. Have you ever read a story about a person surviving a 15 man robbery by using his automatic rifle? I sure haven't.

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You know better than this. There are plenty of people serving that couldn't do shit with a rifle in their hands. All they know is that it's an M4, how to take it apart, and it can be grouped and zeroed at 300 meters. There are way more non-combat Soldiers in than there are combat Soldiers. They go to their "range day" twice a year and they are good. Their actual knowledge of the weapon itself consists of its assembly and disassembly.

All an M4 is is a semi automatic hunting rifle with a weaker cartridge, less distance, and cool looking military furniture.
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I actually want to explain my stance. I don't think a ban is necessary; but a much much much more strict qualification and constant supervision of assault weapons is necessary.

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It's very annoying. In fact when I was in the US Navy, we used to get beat down if we called an M-16, an M-4, a .50 cal, or an M249 a machine gun. However, we also had to get tested every few months to be sure we remembered the 4 weapon safety rules, were able to shoot efficiently, and the basics of handling a weapon safely. that was our job 24/7, and we still were tested monthly.

an 18 year old who can walk into a store and purchase an AR-15 for self defense purpose after only a month or two of qualifying and waiting, then not having to re-qualify for a couple of years; that sounds strange to me. Have you ever read a story about a person surviving a 15 man robbery by using his automatic rifle? I sure haven't.
when you get into discussions about what currently qualify as "assault rifles" you're far past personal protection and into the first half of the 2nd amendment. It's about defense against a tyrannical state, not against a robber.. Throughout history before doing horrible things governments have taken away the arms of the people that could possibly be used to defend themselves against the state. Germany, Russia, Cambodia, and on and on and on and on and on.




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Re: Obama plan: Ban assault weapons

IMO they should ban guns in the states, i mean i know it's in the constitution and all that but why have one? it's not necessary. In texas you can walk round with one on your belt can't you? whats that all about! got a worry that a cashier might short change you or what?

Farmers need a gun to protect their animals but the general public? i don't agree.

I do know that most gun crimes i read about are committed with illegal guns but allowing people of a certain age to own a gun when they are probably not even able to have a drink legally is crazy.

Protect your home and land with a gun then eh! can't you just use a baseball bat?
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