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What was the opinion? You were born an Atheist
Babies aren't atheists or christians or muslims,Babies are damn babies.This "Babies are originally something" argument is fucking stupid.Never fucking use it.

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I'd assume babies are originally agnostic, they don't inherently not believe in something they don't know exists


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To be an atheist you have to actively reject the absurd notion of a sky wizard. So no, babies aren't born atheists and they won't become atheists until they become intelligent. If they don't ever become intelligent, they continue to believe in the sky wizard thing then sign up to wrestling forums and make threads about the sky wizard.

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I'd assume babies are originally agnostic, they don't inherently not believe in something they don't know exists
Well if they don't know that something like religion exists then they can't be a part of it or "believe" in it.

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Babies aren't atheists or christians or muslims,Babies are damn babies.This "Babies are originally something" argument is fucking stupid.Never fucking use it.
Please, save your ignorance for someone else. My point is that you are born without God. God doesn't come naturally to someone like the realization of gravity, or the ability to observe if all five senses are developed. If parents don't take their kids to church, how many of them end up believing in God? I don't have to go to school to realize that there is something holding me down, and this why I can't float off in to space. Or, when I pour a glass of water down a slope, it goes down. I may not be able to call it gravity without the proper education, but I at least I know that something exists, and it pulling things back to the earth, or ground.

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To be an atheist you have to actively reject the absurd notion of a sky wizard. So no, babies aren't born atheists and they won't become atheists until they become intelligent. If they don't ever become intelligent, they continue to believe in the sky wizard thing then sign up to wrestling forums and make threads about the sky wizard.
Babies can't speak with languages so you can't define what it is their brain is taking in, or observing. Studies have proven that many babies are born with genius IQ's, and hence during this process their brains are like sponges, and absorb everything. They are certainly aware of their environment, just not in a way that we can identify with. If God is truth, then we should be born with that "Truth", or at least be able to observe it. We aren't, and can't because God doesn't exist.
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Please, save your ignorance for someone else. My point is that you are born without God. God doesn't come naturally to someone like the realization of gravity, or the ability to observe if all five senses are developed. If parents don't take their kids to church, how many of them end up believing in God? I don't have to go to school to realize that there is something holding me down, and this why I can't float off in to space. Or, when I pour a glass of water down a slope, it goes down. I may not be able to call it gravity without the proper education, but I at least I know that something exists, and it pulling things back to the earth, or ground.
There's plenty of people who would grow up to atleast become deists or agnostics,Babies are not born atheists or muslims or anything they don't know jackshit about anything.Also I'm an atheist just so you know,I just think the "babies are atheists" argument is fucking retarded.

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Babies can't speak with languages so you can't define what it is their brain is taking in, or observing. Studies have proven that many babies are born with genius IQ's, and hence during this process their brains are like sponges, and absorb everything. They are certainly aware of their environment, just not in a way that we can identify with. If God is truth, then we should be born with that "Truth", or at least be able to observe it. We aren't, and can't because God doesn't exist.
That's why I said 'actively' reject. Can't be that intelligent off the bat if they can't speak. All that sponging for nothing.

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There's plenty of people who would grow up to atleast become deists or agnostics,Babies are not born atheists or muslims or anything they don't know jackshit about anything.Also I'm an atheist just so you know,I just think the "babies are atheists" argument is fucking retarded.
You are completely missing the point here. We are born without the coherent knowledge of God. Which if God were the "truth" we would be born with the understanding that there is a creator of everything. We aren't born with this knowledge. Through observation we will eventually discover that there is gravity, oxygen, water, fire etc. You will never observe God under any circumstance. You only learn to have "faith" in God. Faith isn't fact. We are born as rational, and logical human beings up until we are sent off to a church, mosque, or synagogue.
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