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Old 12-06-2012, 11:28 PM   #341 (permalink)
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I dont care that much about what you say, I just got sick of you saying the same thing over and over and over again and even though you dont mean to, you came of as someone who thinks all Muslims are some religious monsters.
That's what he wants to believe even if it's far-fetched.
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:13 AM   #342 (permalink)
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I don't made anything up. Atheism stands for "without belief". Atheism is not about believing.
Oh dear, DS, oh deary, deary me. Atheism does not stand for without belief, it stands for without belief in God. It is a reactionary word, the opposite of theist, which is a believer in God. The word ‘atheist’ wouldn’t exist if humankind hadn’t invented gods to believe in. It has nothing to do with other beliefs. I’ve said this many, many times and you all need to accept it because it’s fact.

Why should I even bother reading the rest of your post when you start it off like that?

I did read it though, and here are some highlights from the rest of your post:

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That's why Atheists use science as arguments, because they rather have evidences instead of believing in something.
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That is like me saying that Atheists don't believe anything and you say that I am wrong because you believe that Tupac is alive. Really?
It's not really, is it? You know, when you consider things with your brain instead of your arse.

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Religious stuff is what the majority means with "not believing in anything"
Eh? You've lost me. I was following really close and then all of a sudden you were gone.

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and I never claimed that there was nothing before the big bang but the question is what created this something before the big boom.
The question science hopes to actually answer instead of pretending it knows, which would be dishonest. Being religious, I assume you’re down with honesty?

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This is what I don't get. The Atheists call most of what religious people say nonsense but they admit many times that they haven't found out the answers yet.
Not all the answers, but lots of them. Like the age of the earth. The amount of time humans have roughly been around on the earth. Things like that which directly contravene the Biblical accounts of creation.


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We religious people have all the answers so how can Atheists claim that their arguments are better if they have not all answers.
You have all the answers? Okay then. What was God doing before he created the universe? He’s been there forever according to you, so what was he doing before he made us six thousand or so years ago? Forever is a long time just sitting around on your own surrounded by nothing.

I’d appreciate your thoughts on the above question, DS. I’ve asked it many times of Christians in real life, and the best answer I have received is that “it’s irrelevant”.

Remember, being religious means you attempt to hold the moral high ground, but you are claiming you know everything and me, the corrupted atheist, is the one holding his hands up and saying that I don’t know everything and that there is much to still figure out.

Honesty. Jesus had something to say about that, no?
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:21 AM   #343 (permalink)
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:59 AM   #344 (permalink)
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:20 AM   #345 (permalink)
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When people say that Atheists have their religion because they worship science they don't mean that they pray every night "dear science please help my sick brother", they mean that they have an answer to everything what exists and it's most science.
No, an atheist doesn't believe in anything they have to answer to. A religious person answers to God and an atheist does not. To say they have to answer to science is ridiculous, science never claims to know all the answers as science actually enjoys the unknown and does not need to create a fictitious deity to explain that. I like not knowing what happened before and what happens after, but I'll never jump to religion as an explanation. And if a doctor saved my life, you're damn right I'll thank the doctors and science for that, but not in the stupid way you explained.

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It's pretty ignorant from Atheists to say if God created everything what created God and what was before him when the big bang theory is like this
"A cosmological theory holding that the universe originated approximately 20 billion years ago from the violent explosion of a very small agglomeration of matter of extremely high density and temperature"
What created all of this, this hot and dense state what will later be known as the universe as we know it?
The Atheists call it nonsense when they heard that God created time because there must be something before God and when it comes to the big bang theory their answer is that time and space didn't existed.
So let's rewind 13.5 billion years, keep going, the universe is contracting, as it contracts to the beginning you expect to see a man there who made it all? I say I don't know how it happened but one day we will find out and I can tell you now, you'll be wrong.
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:05 AM   #346 (permalink)
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So let's rewind 13.5 billion years, keep going, the universe is contracting, as it contracts to the beginning you expect to see a man there who made it all? I say I don't know how it happened but one day we will find out and I can tell you now, you'll be wrong.
Based on my personal interpretation, I don't think God is meant to be portrayed as some old man living in the sky creating shit all day. I see that as more of a metaphor. I see "God" as a set of natural metaphysical forces at work in the universe that mankind may or may not ever be capable of understanding. Not necessarily an actual deity.
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Based on my personal interpretation, I don't think God is meant to be portrayed as some old man living in the sky creating shit all day. I see that as more of a metaphor. I see "God" as a set of natural metaphysical forces at work in the universe that mankind may or may not ever be capable of understanding. Not necessarily an actual deity.
You're right, I might be generalising a bit when I say it's a man with a beard in the clouds, but you know what I mean.

But what you said is a perfectly understandable view on God, in this instance the Universe is God, the only difference is I see that God as nature.
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You're right, I might be generalising a bit when I say it's a man with a beard in the clouds, but you know what I mean.
They've only personified God for Hollywood/entertainment purposes.
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They've only personified God for Hollywood/entertainment purposes.
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." - Genesis 1:26 (NIV)

Yeah, let us rule over sharks and lions and black widow spiders. Okay mate, whatevs.
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They've only personified God for Hollywood/entertainment purposes.
That is correct. The thing is even in the Bible God is personified as a person, after all he created us in his image and speaks to us as a person we can talk to.

I get what you're saying though.
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