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Old 12-04-2012, 05:49 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Funny how Dualshock hasn't responded in this thread ever since Ghandi showed only a handful of many examples of where holy books encourage to incite violence against sinners and non-believers. Thanks for doing it for me Ghandi so I didn't have to do it myself
LOL you act like Gandhi posted it 30 hours ago. You know, some people are sometimes offline and can't post it in the next second.
That is all cute what Gandhi posted but have you ever heard of the old testament and the new testament? It's a shame that me as non-Christian knows more about the Bible than some Christians. Why does the Bible contradict itself by having a verse where it says how you should kill the enemies and the next verse is that you should love your enemies? Because it's not contradiction, it's because there is an old testament and a new testament.
Ever heard a priest or a mullah telling that all the religious people should go on the street and kill homosexuals and people with other religions?
Have you missed the news where the Pope travelled to Lebanon as an example of religious tolerance during the protests because of the prophet Mohammed movie?
Why is the Pope doing that when this is the opposite of what the Bible says in the links of what Gandhi posted?
Because Gandhi just searched for some links on Google and posted the first link without checking the facts. Because Gandhi proved what I posted that there is the old testament and the new testament. Because Gandhi proved what I posted that some Atheists act smart but they proved that they are uninformed when it comes to religion and even I as non-Christian can find reasonable explanation what the Bible says because I inform myself before posting about something
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:29 PM   #112 (permalink)
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LOL you act like Gandhi posted it 30 hours ago. You know, some people are sometimes offline and can't post it in the next second.
That is all cute what Gandhi posted but have you ever heard of the old testament and the new testament? It's a shame that me as non-Christian knows more about the Bible than some Christians. Why does the Bible contradict itself by having a verse where it says how you should kill the enemies and the next verse is that you should love your enemies? Because it's not contradiction, it's because there is an old testament and a new testament.
Ever heard a priest or a mullah telling that all the religious people should go on the street and kill homosexuals and people with other religions?
Have you missed the news where the Pope travelled to Lebanon as an example of religious tolerance during the protests because of the prophet Mohammed movie?
Why is the Pope doing that when this is the opposite of what the Bible says in the links of what Gandhi posted?
Because Gandhi just searched for some links on Google and posted the first link without checking the facts. Because Gandhi proved what I posted that there is the old testament and the new testament. Because Gandhi proved what I posted that some Atheists act smart but they proved that they are uninformed when it comes to religion and even I as non-Christian can find reasonable explanation what the Bible says because I inform myself before posting about something
Buddy I already know about the concept of the old and new testament but that doesn't change anything.Its still religious texts from a stupid cult.You want something horrid from the new testament? No problem this shit's all over the internet.

Mark 9:43 If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.

Matthew 10:34 "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"


Nah fuck it I'll just do something easier than post all the shit in the new testament.

Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

This literally means Jesus agrees with EVERYTHING from the old testament,Meaning nothing you say is worth jack shit.

I'm not "trying" to act smart,You're just being an idiot.
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LOL you act like Gandhi posted it 30 hours ago. You know, some people are sometimes offline and can't post it in the next second.
That is all cute what Gandhi posted but have you ever heard of the old testament and the new testament? It's a shame that me as non-Christian knows more about the Bible than some Christians. Why does the Bible contradict itself by having a verse where it says how you should kill the enemies and the next verse is that you should love your enemies? Because it's not contradiction, it's because there is an old testament and a new testament.
Ever heard a priest or a mullah telling that all the religious people should go on the street and kill homosexuals and people with other religions?
Have you missed the news where the Pope travelled to Lebanon as an example of religious tolerance during the protests because of the prophet Mohammed movie?
Why is the Pope doing that when this is the opposite of what the Bible says in the links of what Gandhi posted?
Because Gandhi just searched for some links on Google and posted the first link without checking the facts. Because Gandhi proved what I posted that there is the old testament and the new testament. Because Gandhi proved what I posted that some Atheists act smart but they proved that they are uninformed when it comes to religion and even I as non-Christian can find reasonable explanation what the Bible says because I inform myself before posting about something
Oh boy, I make one facetious comment and this is what happens

You are talking about the actions of people when that was not what you were arguing. You argued and I quote:

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There is no religion in the world who says violence or hate is the answer.
How ironic when Atheists claim how they are smart because they research but prove on the same time how stupid and uninformed they are when it comes to their own religion before they converted to Atheism
There is no "conversion" process but that's besides the point.

So Ghandi posted the examples in the scripture. As for the old Testament is violent and horrible and New Testament is all lovey and dovey argument. That has been refuted time and time again. Here are a few quotes from the New Testament:

Matthew:

Jesus recommends that to avoid sin we cut off our hands and pluck out our eyes. This advice is given immediately after he says that anyone who looks with lust at any women commits adultery. 5:29-30

Families will be torn apart because of Jesus (this is one of the few "prophecies" in the Bible that has actually come true). "Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." 10:21

Mark:

Any city that doesn't "receive" the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. 6:11

Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as required by Old Testament law. (See Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21) 7:9-10

Luke

Those who fail to bear "good fruit" will be "hewn down, and cast into the fire." 3:9

In the parable of the talents, Jesus says that God takes what is not rightly his, and reaps what he didn't sow. The parable ends with the words: "bring them [those who preferred not to be ruled by him] hither, and slay them before me." 19:22-27

John

Jesus believes people are crippled by God as a punishment for sin. He tells a crippled man, after healing him, to "sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee." 5:14

Those who do not believe in Jesus will be cast into a fire to be burned. 15:6


And so on and so forth...many examples. You can research yourself if you want.


Also here is a very interesting and insightful video on an entire bible passage from the new testament:




The New Testament has no passages of violence does it....


I know that there are many good people in the world who do follow religion. You are not proving anything to me by giving me examples of good deeds done by religious people. I've never argued religious people cannot be good people and it would be an utterly stupid argument to make. But to say that there are not religions who say that violence is not the answer is just simply not true when reading the scripture. Especially when you have people who follow this shit word for word.
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Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Jesus agrees with the old testament....
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So to recap. Another atheism thread got made and another set of religious freaks got embarrassed.

Also a bit of a white knight atheist had to get humbled by myself despite being on the winning team. Collateral damage.

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It's the same shit every time, just expressed differently.
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Buddy I already know about the concept of the old and new testament but that doesn't change anything.Its still religious texts from a stupid cult.You want something horrid from the new testament? No problem this shit's all over the internet.

Mark 9:43 If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.

Matthew 10:34 "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"


Nah fuck it I'll just do something easier than post all the shit in the new testament.

Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

This literally means Jesus agrees with EVERYTHING from the old testament,Meaning nothing you say is worth jack shit.

I'm not "trying" to act smart,You're just being an idiot.
I bet when you post this quotes you don't even know what quotes are from the old and what quotes are from the new testament, you just quote random stuff.
I bet you just typed on Google "bible kill" and posted random links
Tell me why the Bible says "love your enemy" if the verses you post tell that the enemy should be killed?
And your attempts of acting like you heard about the new testament fail just your fails of acting that you are an Atheist but later contradicting yourself by acknowledging hell or how you have a healthy sexual life but contradicting yourself by revealing that you are actually a sick freak.
You fail once again by proving that you have no idea of the old and the new testament (of forgot it in your excitement because you jizzed your pants when you found those verses and believed you finally proved the religious people wrong)
You posted "I already know about the concept of the old and new testament but that doesn't change anything"
this is the proof that you dont know shit
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You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your heavenly Father, for he makes his sun rise on the bad and the good, and causes rain to fall on the just and the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what recompense will you have? Do not the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet your brothers only, what is unusual about that? Do not the pagans do the same? So be perfect, just as your heavenly Father is perfect. (Matthew 5:43-48)
Old testament calls for vengeance on your enemy while the new testament says love for the enemy and you post BS that Jesus agrees on everything the old testament says?

You don't convince anybody when you just say that you heard about the old and new testament. You convince people by not looking like an uninformed fool.
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Not much good can come from one of these threads/convos/etc. ..One of the very few good things that come from these is seeing a diverse opinion and see where and why ppl are coming from where they are..That being said, stuff like this too many times just carries too much emotion for ppl to converse without bashing or taking things out of context..yall be cool
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