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That's why I said 'actively' reject. Can't be that intelligent off the bat if they can't speak. All that sponging for nothing.

Fuck IQ.

But yeah God doesn't exist so we're in agreement.
Lol. This is the second most unintelligent thing I have heard in a long time. "Can't be that intelligent off the bat if they can't speak". You are basically going against science, and real research that has been done to prove that babies have more brain activity than you do currently. As they grow older they typically get dumber. You learn how to speak at a very early age, and it's only because of your brain being so active while you were be tended to by your legal guardian(s)as a baby. Most pediatricians will tell you that interaction with your child at a very early age is crucial to their intelligence. Hence the reason why parents indoctrinate their children to their specific religious beliefs because it's easier to get them apply themselves to that train of thought at such an early age.
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You are completely missing the point here. We are born without the coherent knowledge of God. Which if God were the "truth" we would be born with the understanding that there is a creator of everything. We aren't born with this knowledge. Through observation we will eventually discover that there is gravity, oxygen, water, fire etc. You will never observe God under any circumstance. You only learn to have "faith" in God. Faith isn't fact. We are born as rational, and logical human beings up until we are sent off to a church, mosque, or synagogue.
Yeah I guess you do make a good point but still you cannot say babies are atheists,Do babies have religions? No.Are babies atheists who reject a spiritual realm? No.

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You can't be serious Truk, all that brain activity is LEARNING, how can a baby be intelligent if it knows nothing? It is actively observing the world around it and learning the social norms, etc.
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Intelligence isn't what you know but how you learn what you will know. It's the ability to learn and apply knowledge, not the amount of knowledge you do or don't have.

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^^ That.

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Lol. This is the second most unintelligent thing I have heard in a long time. "Can't be that intelligent off the bat if they can't speak". You are basically going against science, and real research that has been done to prove that babies have more brain activity than you do currently. As they grow older they typically get dumber. You learn how to speak at a very early age, and it's only because of your brain being so active while you were be tended to by your legal guardian(s)as a baby. Most pediatricians will tell you that interaction with your child at a very early age is crucial to their intelligence. Hence the reason why parents indoctrinate their children to their specific religious beliefs because it's easier to get them apply themselves to that train of thought at such an early age.
Ugh this is really quite misguided and I don't want/need to engage in debates on both sides of the aisle.

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Intelligence isn't what you know but how you learn what you will know. It's the ability to learn and apply knowledge, not the amount of knowledge you do or don't have.
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Ugh this is really quite misguided and I don't want/need to engage in debates on both sides on the aisle.
At least you are admitting you are wrong.
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I was pointing out that you're arguing about something completely different to the issues raised. So yeah, think before you type and get off your high horse. It makes you look like a dickhead.

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Lets face it. If God were real why did cultures start off believing in many Gods? If they thought one creator made no sense. The only reason Monotheism came in to being is because it was viewed as more civilized, and structured as a belief. Not to mention it took how long for Monotheism to take over as a social norm? What about man prior to any religious beliefs? Are they all doomed to hell? Jesus, nor Muhammad have no text written that explains their beliefs to Neanderthals, or early cave men. Wouldn't God want to save them?

Didn't we eat from the tree of knowledge? How is that possible if we know that Neanderthals, and Cave Men roamed the earth so ignorantly. It took us how long to discover fire, and the wheel? Man was more concerned with survival back then, and not Jesus. Where was Jesus back then to reveal "truth" to these people that apparently God forgot to mention? Man evolved without God for a very long time, and I think it's safe to say that God is not real.
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You're preaching to the choir, mon frère.

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