Hell according to muslims and christians - Wrestling Forum : WWE, TNA, Debate League, Wrestling Videos, Women of Wrestling Forums
Reply

Old 11-28-2012, 09:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
Getting over in the mid-card
 
Gandhi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Cairo, Egypt
Posts: 6,638
Gandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselves
Default Hell according to muslims and christians

Yes this is a rant that has to do with religion,If you don't like it tough.

Now before I start this,I'd like to state that I don't and will never hate religious people infact that closest people to me are muslims from friends to all my family and my family know I'm an atheist and still love me to death and vice versa.If they believe they should worship a god because he created them I honestly don't give a fuck they can do whatever they want to do and I'm more than fine with them feeling grateful to a so called being who gave them life infact there are certain religions I kinda like even if I don't believe in them "mostly Asian ones,No Buddhism isn't one of them"

However my biggest problem with religions like christianity and islam isn't how they say they should wear hijabs or how they say they shouldn't have sex before marriage or any of that stuff,What I despise about those religions is that they speak of the concept of hell as if it is justified.

Yes I HATE and DESPISE the idea of hell and you ask why? Because NOBODY deserves an eternity in hell,Not Hitler not Stalin not rapists not murderers not NOBODY.Now you're gonna tell me I'm crazy for saying nobody deserves hell? I never said that exactly,What I said is that nobody deserves hell FOR ALL ETERNITY.Guys like Hitler or Stalin? Yeah they should be put in a place like hell for lets say,10 years or so but not for fucking ever.The idea of hell for all eternity is NOT justice is disgusting and cold as ice.Horrible people are not born horrible and EVERYBODY has good in them,Call me a hippie or whatever the fuck you're gonna say but I've always believed every person alive has good in them its just that some refuse to be good because of certain things in their lives that stop them from even thinking of doing good.As people say,People are not born villains they are MADE villains.What mostly makes me sick of the concept of hell mostly is that you can go to hell for simply not being a part of the religion itself! According to muslims ALL people from non Abrahamic faiths WILL go to hell no matter how good they are as people and christians have that "You have to accept Jesus" garbage to go to heaven "Although I might be mistaken since I don't know much about christianity as I do in islam".The entire concept of hell for simply not believing in the religion is complete utter bollocks and is anything BUT justice,And don't give me that "some people knew hell is real but didn't care" because NOBODY doesn't care about not going to hell forever and if they don't care they are mentally insane,Is god sending mentally insane people to hell? How very just.But lets assume "disbelief" is a bad thing and that people who don't believe really are bad ok I'm down with going to hell for a certain period of time for disbelief but forever? Forever? Can you actually say hell forever is a good solution? What does god gain if people go to hell forever? How will people learn from their mistakes if they go to hell forever? How the FUCK is the concept of hell forever even justified in society?

There are two reasons I made this rant,One is because I was talking to a certain someone who is very close to me as of late,She's VERY religious christian but she's an extremely down to earth person who I really like and vice versa.I kept asking her am I a bad person? She said no I'm an amazing person,But then she proceeded in telling me "god does whatever he wants and if he sends you to hell then that'll be that",That pissed me off because she said it.

The second reason is because since childhood I've ALWAYS had Hadephobia,For those who don't know what that is its the phobia of hell.The reason I know I have this phobia is because when people talk of the Underworld from Greek Mythology or the Egyptian mythology I never care but when people speak of the forms of hell muslims and christians speak of it will ALWAYS get my attention even though hell to me is as real as Willy Wonka's chocolate factory.I have had my fair share of nightmares about Hell too.When I was a kid once I went with my dad once the sheik at the mosque in the Friday prayer was talking about Judgement day and hell "at the time I had Hindu and Sikh people who were my friends" and the sheik started saying all people who are not a part of abrahamic faiths shall go to hell no matter what.I cried back then and kept telling my dad I don't want my friends to go to hell and the sheik himself came up to me after the prayer and was like "Its good you're crying,It means you know the wrath of god and now you'll do anything to avoid hell" and that memory itself of this makes me fucking sick.

So people who do believe in the muslim/christian versions of hell,Please explain to me how the concept of hell for all eternity is justified as justice to anybody.Maybe I'm too stupid to understand it because I'm an evil naughty heathen,Please explain yourselves.

Damn I feel better.
__________________
http://www.wrestlingforum.com/signaturepics/sigpic217556_8.gif

Ulfric Stormcloak; not a racist, not a megalomaniac, not a savage, but a hero with heart & ambition.

All hail to Ulfric you are the High King
In your great honor we drink and we sing
We're the children of Skyrim and we fight all our lives
And when Sovngarde beckons everyone of us dies

We drink to our youth to the days come and gone
For the age of oppression is now nearly done

Gandhi is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 11-28-2012, 09:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
-
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 7,337
Mr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth reading
Default Re: Hell according to muslims and christians

You think Hitler doesn't deserve eternity in hell? C'mon, the man murdered about 6 million people(including innocent children) for no reason whatsoever, they didn't even do anything harm to him.
__________________

Last edited by Mr.Cricket : 11-28-2012 at 09:16 AM.
Mr.Cricket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2012, 09:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
Ignoring SCOTT STIENER
 
CruzControl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Titan Tower
Posts: 975
CruzControl needs to make some friendsCruzControl needs to make some friendsCruzControl needs to make some friendsCruzControl needs to make some friendsCruzControl needs to make some friendsCruzControl needs to make some friendsCruzControl needs to make some friendsCruzControl needs to make some friends
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Cricket View Post
You think Hitler doesn't deserve eternity in hell? C'mon, the man murdered about 6 millions people for no reason whatsoever, they didn't even do anything harm to him.
11 million but yeah.

Sent from my DROIDX
__________________

Need a sig? Check mine out.
CruzControl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2012, 09:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
Searching for a new identity
 
ROUSEY's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor
Posts: 5,677
ROUSEY is new to the CHATBOX CREWROUSEY is new to the CHATBOX CREWROUSEY is new to the CHATBOX CREWROUSEY is new to the CHATBOX CREWROUSEY is new to the CHATBOX CREWROUSEY is new to the CHATBOX CREWROUSEY is new to the CHATBOX CREWROUSEY is new to the CHATBOX CREWROUSEY is new to the CHATBOX CREWROUSEY is new to the CHATBOX CREWROUSEY is new to the CHATBOX CREW
Default Re: Hell according to muslims and christians

Reading your posts is like an eternity in Hell.
__________________
MAN DREAMS, GOD DECIDES



"Ross has that special something no one else has. He is the best player in our team"
ROUSEY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2012, 09:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
Shooting the birds down from the trees
 
BULLY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Salma Hayek.
Posts: 4,503
BULLY has made a name for themselvesBULLY has made a name for themselvesBULLY has made a name for themselvesBULLY has made a name for themselvesBULLY has made a name for themselvesBULLY has made a name for themselvesBULLY has made a name for themselvesBULLY has made a name for themselvesBULLY has made a name for themselvesBULLY has made a name for themselvesBULLY has made a name for themselves
Default Re: Hell according to muslims and christians

I'm not saying this to be a prick, but you really need to see a therapist. Not just for this, but your views on other stuff like sex etc. You sound like one very messed up individual.
__________________
BULLY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2012, 09:20 AM   #6 (permalink)
Getting over in the mid-card
 
Gandhi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Cairo, Egypt
Posts: 6,638
Gandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselvesGandhi is making a name for themselves
Default Re: Hell according to muslims and christians

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Cricket View Post
You think Hitler doesn't deserve eternity in hell? C'mon, the man murdered about 6 million people(including innocent children) for no reason whatsoever, they didn't even do anything harm to him.
I know he was a horrible human being,But he wasn't born a horrible human being and if you read on his life before he came to power you'd see the guy was having it pretty rough in life.Should he go to a place like hell? Ofcourse,He must be punished,Should he stay there forever? Whats the point in that? There comes a time where you must must just go "mercy" or else you're no different than a cold merciless killer.
__________________
http://www.wrestlingforum.com/signaturepics/sigpic217556_8.gif

Ulfric Stormcloak; not a racist, not a megalomaniac, not a savage, but a hero with heart & ambition.

All hail to Ulfric you are the High King
In your great honor we drink and we sing
We're the children of Skyrim and we fight all our lives
And when Sovngarde beckons everyone of us dies

We drink to our youth to the days come and gone
For the age of oppression is now nearly done

Gandhi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2012, 09:22 AM   #7 (permalink)
MCMXCII
 
A$AP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,447
A$AP has made a name for themselvesA$AP has made a name for themselvesA$AP has made a name for themselvesA$AP has made a name for themselvesA$AP has made a name for themselvesA$AP has made a name for themselvesA$AP has made a name for themselvesA$AP has made a name for themselvesA$AP has made a name for themselvesA$AP has made a name for themselvesA$AP has made a name for themselves
Default Re: Hell according to muslims and christians

Gandhi and his god awful threads strike again.
__________________





A$AP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2012, 09:25 AM   #8 (permalink)
Little Poppa Pump
 
Samoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,256
Samoon probably won't be missedSamoon probably won't be missedSamoon probably won't be missedSamoon probably won't be missedSamoon probably won't be missedSamoon probably won't be missedSamoon probably won't be missedSamoon probably won't be missedSamoon probably won't be missedSamoon probably won't be missedSamoon probably won't be missed
Default Re: Hell according to muslims and christians

Quote:
Originally Posted by BULLY View Post
I'm not saying this to be a prick, but you really need to see a therapist. Not just for this, but your views on other stuff like sex etc. You sound like one very messed up individual.
Yeah I also think he should see a therapist tbh.
__________________




Credit: CHAMPviaDQ

Last edited by Samoon : 11-28-2012 at 09:27 AM.
Samoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2012, 09:26 AM   #9 (permalink)
-
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 7,337
Mr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth readingMr.Cricket has posts worth reading
Default Re: Hell according to muslims and christians

I thought you were an atheist Ghandi? doesn't that mean you shouldn't be believing stuff like Hell and Heaven?
__________________
Mr.Cricket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2012, 09:27 AM   #10 (permalink)
Moron
Premium
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,205
Shazayum probably won't be missedShazayum probably won't be missedShazayum probably won't be missedShazayum probably won't be missedShazayum probably won't be missedShazayum probably won't be missedShazayum probably won't be missedShazayum probably won't be missedShazayum probably won't be missedShazayum probably won't be missedShazayum probably won't be missed
Default Re: Hell according to muslims and christians

Nobody cares that you're an atheist, stop telling everyone in all of your posts.
Shazayum is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Powered by vBulletin Copyright 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios