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Old 11-29-2012, 12:02 PM   #141 (permalink)
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2 reasons why Agnostism is fucking great.

1. We don't have a fucking God or Religion.

2. We don't know if there is one or not, which doesn't merit us to argue about it (because we kind of don't give a shit).
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Old 11-29-2012, 01:17 PM   #142 (permalink)
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That's not close to being true.

A possible reason why people dislike you is because you complain about the same crap. There are forums that exist where you can whine about theists all you want. Plus the fact that you contradict yourself so much.
You think I don't go on islamic/religious sites or places online or in real life to ask questions like these? :yodawg

Also this is the rants section,I can rant about whatever the fuck I want to rant about and I felt like ranting about how the concept of hell forever is fucking disgusting if you don't like it then fuck off this thread and stop posting garbage thinking you know what you're talking about.If you really think I contradict myself because I am nice with other folks and not nice when it comes to religion you're a fucking idiot,Religion isn't a race religion isn't a sex religion isn't a sexuality religion is a belief and not all beliefs are worth respecting.

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2 reasons why Agnostism is fucking great.

1. We don't have a fucking God or Religion.

2. We don't know if there is one or not, which doesn't merit us to argue about it (because we kind of don't give a shit).
The OP had nothing to do with agnostism or atheism,I don't understand why you idiots keep posting shit that has nothing to do with the original fucking rant.
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Old 11-29-2012, 01:22 PM   #143 (permalink)
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Gandhi, personally, i'm an atheist myself, and i gotta tell you man, in my opinion, you're not one.
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Old 11-29-2012, 01:45 PM   #144 (permalink)
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There is not a God, nor a Devil. There is only conscious, and then unconscious constantly repeating itself over, and over for all of eternity. We are infinite beings with infinite paths in which we use our free will each time to make all the choices we need to be what we are, or become. The bright light everyone goes to during death is the hospital light of your birth in to the conscious existence of your infinite, and immortal life. This is not reincarnation because that would require one to know what happened in their previous life, and that would also require one to go back in time. Which makes no sense.

In essence there is no time, but merely the conscious awareness of it. People have Deja Vu for a reason, and it's the infinite conscious mind proving to you that you indeed have done things before even without having done them previous to the situation you experienced Deja Vu. Reincarnation suggests that you come back, but there is no coming back, and certainly if you are not aware of it. Religions sort of explain the meaning in very general ways. We are told that we live for eternity either in heaven, or in hell. Both of those ideas are personal.

A homeless man who has lost everything from his family, job, home, and just basic life in general may feel like he is in hell. All the decisions that this person made put him in this place, and he used his "free will" to make those decisions. Perhaps heavy drug use became the cancer of his being. We are told we will make many decisions, and those decisions will lead to temptation, or the good path. Religious folks say things like don't let the "devil" lead you in to temptation, and all that really is, is yourself, and your conscious mind. You know that little voice in your head? lol. You are just basically thinking to yourself. You can lead yourself into unpleasant situations the same way you can go, and become a Lawyer, or a Public School Teacher.

We are our own God, or Satan. What we think to ourselves is the greatest secret of all mankind, and the best part is that we can think to ourselves, and no one can know what we are really thinking. You are alive now, and when you die you will live again just to die again. This process never stops, and time doesn't exist. The most extraordinary part of it all is life, and it was not handed to us by some deity, nor can it be sold to some deity. It wasn't given to us by some God, or Gods. Life is a product of science that continues to expand infinitely amongst the void that is space.

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Old 11-29-2012, 02:04 PM   #145 (permalink)
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There is not a God, nor a Devil. There is only conscious, and then unconscious constantly repeating itself over, and over for all of eternity. We are infinite beings with infinite paths in which we use our free will each time to make all the choices we need to be what we are, or become. The bright light everyone goes to during death is the hospital light of your birth in to the conscious existence of your infinite, and immortal life. This is not reincarnation because that would require one to know what happened in their previous life, and that would also require one to go back in time. Which makes no sense.

In essence there is no time, but merely the conscious awareness of it. People have Deja Vu for a reason, and it's the infinite conscious mind proving to you that you indeed have done things before even without having done them previous to the situation you experienced Deja Vu. Reincarnation suggests that you come back, but there is no coming back, and certainly if you are not aware of it. Religions sort of explain the meaning in very general ways. We are told that we live for eternity either in heaven, or in hell. Both of those ideas are personal.

A homeless man who has lost everything from his family, job, home, and just basic life in general may feel like he is in hell. All the decisions that this person made put him in this place, and he used his "free will" to make those decisions. Perhaps heavy drug use became the cancer of his being. We are told we will make many decisions, and those decisions will lead to temptation, or the good path. Religious folks say things like don't let the "devil" lead you in to temptation, and all that really is, is yourself, and your conscious mind. You know that little voice in your head? lol. You are just basically thinking to yourself. You can lead yourself into unpleasant situations the same way you can go, and become a Lawyer, or a Public School Teacher.

We are our own God, or Satan. What we think to ourselves is the greatest secret of all mankind, and the best part is that we can think to ourselves, and no one can know what we are really thinking. You are alive now, and when you die you will live again just to die again. This process never stops, and time doesn't exist. The most extraordinary part of it all is life, and it was not handed to us by some deity, nor can it be sold to some deity. It wasn't given to us by some God, or Gods. Life is a product of science that continues to expand infinitely amongst the void that is space.

Holy shit, dude. What a post!
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:01 AM   #146 (permalink)
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Keep telling yourself that,It won't change reality that Naik is an idiot who makes himself look stupid everytime he speaks.I've seen his debates,He's a joke.Saying he's the best muslim scholar is just insulting to muslim scholars who aren't idiots like him.



And thats what islam and christianity are,Cults.My grandmother recently died but we didn't have to pay the shiek anything to say her name in the Friday prayer speech,But anyway yeah religion does make allot of people money.Though I wouldn't say I hate all cults,I think all religions are cults but not all are harmful to society.Also not all religions state we are supposed to go to hell,Not all religions are like islam and christianity or ancient pagan religions.
Naik is a legend All over the world.Notice I said Combined Religion not Islam.And Very few scholars Get in debate with him Because in the End those scholars come out Looking stupid.The thought Of hell makes you cringe?If I were you It wouldn't bother me since Hell Wouldn't Exist.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:15 AM   #147 (permalink)
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Ghandi is an A class troll.

Says dumb shit on a constant basis but nothing dumb enough to get him banned.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:32 AM   #148 (permalink)
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He isn't a troll, he is just plain stupid.
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Naik is a legend All over the world.Notice I said Combined Religion not Islam.And Very few scholars Get in debate with him Because in the End those scholars come out Looking stupid.The thought Of hell makes you cringe?If I were you It wouldn't bother me since Hell Wouldn't Exist.
Ahh yes, when someone points out that 'A building had to have a builder', their philosophical argument suddenly bares equal weight to the scientific theory of evolution, or the theory of the rolling energy buildup in the pre-matter quantum foam which may have created the universe. This is enough to shake any atheist down to his very core, and make him suddenly accept the Lord Jesus Christ, or the Prophet Mohammed. All we need now is a good dose of Pascal's Wager and atheism will surely be vanquished. I believe these things because I have the mind of a child, an obnoxious, stunted child.
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Gandhi is a class A anti-religion/zombie fucker troll. Congratulations.
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