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10-17-2012, 11:11 AM
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Carrying SCOTT STEINER's bags
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Why don't much people support a two state or united solution? "Israel/Palestine"
I remember as a kid I was taught to hate Israel with all my hate and that it was a terrorist state that invaded fellow Arabs.Every Arab is taught as a child to hate Israel with all their hate,If you don't for example shake somebody's hand here while greeting people they will go "Why didn't you greet me? What am I Israeli?" But you get the point Arabs hate Israel and all its people and call them baby killers and sorts of things.
While asking people who support Israel why they support Israel,Some just say Palestinians are barbarians who can't run a country while some people say "The jews were there first" and others say the Palestinians are actually Jordanians who simply started a war in hatred for the Jews.People who support only Israel too hate Palestinians and most Arabs too.
I've never hated Isrealis or Palestinians and though as a kid I did support Palestine over Israel,However I've always thought it was stupid they fought because both Palestinians and Isrealis lived together way before the British came and started the state of Israel.Now hold on here,When I mean Israelis I mean HEBREWS.Hebrews and Arabs lived together normally and yes there was no Palestine or Israel back then.
So my question is,Why do most people only support one state? I've come to a conclusion that supporting one state is fucking hypocritical and bigoted.Yes Palestinians and Arabs has committed many crimes against innocent Israelis BUT Israelis have committed many crimes against innocent Palestinians and Arabs too.Whats the fucking point of this war? Why hate Israelis or Palestinians? Whats the point? By supporting only one side you're only making things worse.
I have Palestinian friends,Sadly they think of Israelis as if they are god damn devils.I've asked them why not think of a two state solution or the unification of both people and they ALWAYS tell me I'm nuts.
Look,You can't just go "Fuck the Palestinian people lets just throw them in the sea" and you can't say the same to the Israelis vice versa.Palestinians are Arabs and Israelis are Hebrews,Both people exist and you can't deny that.
And for anybody on this forum who will dare give me that "Jews were there first" bullshit,AMURRIKKA anybody remember her story? Not to mention I heard Israel is FULL of atheists and agnostics and so called "Atheist Jews" which are literally atheists who only follow Jewish tradition.
This war is fucking stupid,I hate when people say we must "Free Palestine" or when people say "We must kick the Palestinian monkeys out for good".
I think I'm done here.
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10-17-2012, 11:56 AM
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Re: Why don't much people support a two state or united solution? "Israel/Palestine"
Because Israel is our sister in Christ.
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10-17-2012, 12:02 PM
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Re: Why don't much people support a two state or united solution? "Israel/Palestine"
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10-17-2012, 12:03 PM
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Re: Why don't much people support a two state or united solution? "Israel/Palestine"
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I think I'm done here.
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10-17-2012, 12:04 PM
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Re: Why don't much people support a two state or united solution? "Israel/Palestine"
Its simple
Israel is the equivalent of me showing me in california, taking out a holy book, saying im the chosen people of God and then demanding I get to form my country in the middle of california
Im sorry but thats the principle problem. What the hell gives anyone the right to land in a country and form their own country in the middle based on 'holy text' and delusions of grandeur as 'gods chosen people'?
Then again, this probably explains why the Americans and Israelis go on so well, im sure one day the palestinians go down in history the same way as the native americans
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10-17-2012, 12:23 PM
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Re: Why don't much people support a two state or united solution? "Israel/Palestine"
done as dinner
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10-17-2012, 12:24 PM
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Re: Why don't much people support a two state or united solution? "Israel/Palestine"
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Its simple
Israel is the equivalent of me showing me in california, taking out a holy book, saying im the chosen people of God and then demanding I get to form my country in the middle of california
Im sorry but thats the principle problem. What the hell gives anyone the right to land in a country and form their own country in the middle based on 'holy text' and delusions of grandeur as 'gods chosen people'?
Then again, this probably explains why the Americans and Israelis go on so well, im sure one day the palestinians go down in history the same way as the native americans
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So what do you suggest should be done?
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10-17-2012, 12:30 PM
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The Man without Fear
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Re: Why don't much people support a two state or united solution? "Israel/Palestine"
I dont know
But I am extremely angry the arabs and Palestinians let it come this far. This shit should have never made it past the 60s. Any other area in the world wouldnt have have allowed it. But instead arabic incompetence paved the way/
I'm also sure a lot of people would be a lot more sympathetic to the Palestinians if they werent such assholes. But then again, I suppose not everyone can be as successful in resistance as the Lebanese
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10-17-2012, 01:07 PM
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Re: Why don't much people support a two state or united solution? "Israel/Palestine"
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Originally Posted by Redead
I dont know
But I am extremely angry the arabs and Palestinians let it come this far. This shit should have never made it past the 60s. Any other area in the world wouldnt have have allowed it. But instead arabic incompetence paved the way/
I'm also sure a lot of people would be a lot more sympathetic to the Palestinians if they werent such assholes. But then again, I suppose not everyone can be as successful in resistance as the Lebanese
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Yeah,Palestinians are like a kid who had a fight with a person who wronged them and ended up killing that person for wronging them,Its as if instead of dealing with things in an intelligent manner they made themselves look like complete fuckwads in the process of doing what they thought was just in their hearts right.
I still think the only peaceful solutions are either a united states of both Israel and Palestine solution or a two state solution,Anything other than that is literally walking into feces barefoot.
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10-17-2012, 01:13 PM
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The Man without Fear
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Re: Why don't much people support a two state or united solution? "Israel/Palestine"
Its hard to run a balanced two state solution when one of them thinks they're God's Chosen People
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