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Old 10-08-2012, 10:55 AM   #311 (permalink)
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Why do people keep giving this idiot attention? He's a troll.
To make him realise the gravity of what he's saying or just weeding him out in case he is another dumb attention seeker.

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*1 - Oh no, as I've said my opinion varies from case to case. I view each case as its own entity, so what I feel about one case has no bearing on how I feel about another. I just look at things as a whole instead of reading "man kills son" and ordering a lynch mob, when I could have taken a few more seconds to read the entire headline of "man kills son, ending killing spree".
So in what cases would "mercy cullings" differ for you from another case? Provide an example of something of similar nature we can compare to that of the 14 year old girl and see what differences can be made.

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*2 - The immaturity of the act is all the more reason to go for a lesser charge/charge her as a juvenile.
That wasn't my point. Don't refer to what the girl did as an act of mercy or valour, as it wasn't either.

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*3 - Me posting my opinions is no more a wind-up approach than somebody else posting their view on sports. That my opinion is unpopular or controversial is nobody's fault but the offended.
Well see that's not quite true. If you had the general decorum and nause to read into what had people offended in the first place you'd realise its more your fault in these cases as these are quite extremist viewpoints you're taking in many aspects (as it would be anyone else's with the same abrasiveness). By posting brazen stuff such as this:

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This is exactly why we shouldn't interact with other races, they bring nothing but disease and gang violence.
Despite being well aware how many people around here are from different backgrounds you still seek to stir the pot with such a generalising and foolishly placed comment.

What do you think empathy is? Just saying you understand someone's else's thoughts, feelings and differing viewpoints? That sort of thing leads me to believe you don't have a very good handle on it.

And are you honestly telling me that by posting opinions you acknowledged could raise a few eyebrows is of the same nature as some trolling in trivial fields of interest like sports?
C'mon bud.

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*4 - I think that it is healthier to form your views on your own experiences as opposed to conforming to social norms.
No matter how blind to the rest of the world they may be in many cases? It's ironic that you condemn social norms when your views are as generalising and blanketing as those 'laws' of society.

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*5 - We have tampered our DNA with the DNA of lesser races. We no longer are a species of strong morals and abilities, but have inherited the cowardice and subservience of Uncle Tom.
So our moralities are held to ransom by the natural divisions formed within the human race (ie: gender, race, etc)? I take it you believe the whites are the superior race on the planet. In what ways are they?
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:59 AM   #312 (permalink)
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To make him realise the gravity of what he's saying or just weeding him out in case he is another dumb attention seeker.
He's been going strong for a while. He's not showing any signs of slowing down. Besides is there really any hope for a racist, homophobic, wife abusing man who doesn't have a problem with a 14 year old strangling her newborn baby?
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:05 AM   #313 (permalink)
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He's been going strong for a while. He's not showing any signs of slowing down. Besides is there really any hope for a racist, homophobic, wife abusing man who doesn't have a problem with a 14 year old strangling her newborn baby?
Oh, he will if he's made to look silly and realises that he looks silly.

There's plenty of people like that too. This guy, at least, can distinguish his own viewpoints as to the rest of his surrounding society and have some semblance of recognition where to put it. Others of somewhat similar ilk aren't...quite as tolerant of other ideas that may come into play from society.

I would be a more worried if he was a troll to be honest.
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Please address this post Warren.
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I hope Warren's long suffering wife cheats on him with a black man named Omar Johnson. I also hope that all of his kids get married to "black, oriental and/or Spaniards" and have a bunch of mulatto and gay babies.
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:08 PM   #316 (permalink)
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killing of the newborn. infanticide has often been interpreted as a primitive method of birth control and a means of ridding a group of its weak or undesirable children; but most societies actively welcome children and put them to death (or allow them to die) only under exceptional circumstances—e.g., when there is little or no likelihood of being able to provide support. as late as the 18th century in european countries unwanted infants were disposed of by abandonment and exposure. firstborn sacrifice, or the offering of one’s most precious possession to the deities, is known from the bible and from the histories of egypt, greece, rome, and india

I've already posted quite a few examples of similar cases where the mothers have gotten 3 years or less, and were convicted of lesser charges like "failing to provide the necessities of life" or "improper disposal of a body".
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you sir are simply fucked in the head. There is one key word in the def you posted above and that is "primative" we do not live in primitive times do we? We live in a world taht allows you to put your child up for adoption, we live in a world that has no questions asked laws which allow you to drop your newborn off at a church or police station and yet you condone this cuz she was scared? Christ I feel for your wife and kid I really do, the chances of your kid growing up to be a monster cuz of your views is really fucking high
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:26 PM   #318 (permalink)
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To make him realise the gravity of what he's saying or just weeding him out in case he is another dumb attention seeker.

So in what cases would "mercy cullings" differ for you from another case? Provide an example of something of similar nature we can compare to that of the 14 year old girl and see what differences can be made. *1

That wasn't my point. Don't refer to what the girl did as an act of mercy or valour, as it wasn't either. *2

Well see that's not quite true. If you had the general decorum and nause to read into what had people offended in the first place you'd realise its more your fault in these cases as these are quite extremist viewpoints you're taking in many aspects (as it would be anyone else's with the same abrasiveness). By posting brazen stuff such as this:

Despite being well aware how many people around here are from different backgrounds you still seek to stir the pot with such a generalising and foolishly placed comment. *3

What do you think empathy is? Just saying you understand someone's else's thoughts, feelings and differing viewpoints? *4 That sort of thing leads me to believe you don't have a very good handle on it.

And are you honestly telling me that by posting opinions you acknowledged could raise a few eyebrows is of the same nature as some trolling in trivial fields of interest like sports? *5

C'mon bud.

No matter how blind to the rest of the world they may be in many cases? It's ironic that you condemn social norms when your views are as generalising and blanketing as those 'laws' of society.

So our moralities are held to ransom by the natural divisions formed within the human race (ie: gender, race, etc)? I take it you believe the whites are the superior race on the planet. In what ways are they? *6
*1 - A merciful culling takes place when one feels that the quality of life of the baby would be less than desirable. In this case, he was born to a 14 year old mother too afraid to tell her parents, termination was the right choice.

*2 - I respect your opinion, but I disagree.

*3 - As I've said, my stating my opinions is no more stirring the pot than somebody else saying how much they love gays. No one person shares the same exact views as another, does this mean that people should refrain from sharing their opinions in fear of offending somebody?

*4 - What other way is there to show my empathy towards the girl over the internet? Forums are based on words, I cannot cry over the internet (not that I would, as I am a man, and crying is for the weak) to show my empathy.

*5 - I'm not a sports guy. I have never watched a full game of any organized sport, I was just making an analogy. I also never said anything about "trolling", but stating opinions about any interest in a group as large as an internet forum is bound to upset somebody.

*6 - The white man has historically been a race of strong minded and strong willed individuals. We used to be a race of conquerors, a race of pride and dignity. Now, having been mixing our DNA with inferior races for many generations, we have deteriorated into a race of weak willed followers. We no longer go out and stake claim to what is ours, we negotiate and we plead and we let the coloreds walk all over us. We have been injected with the venom of the unworthy subhumans and we are too far gone to regain or past glory.
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you sir are simply fucked in the head. There is one key word in the def you posted above and that is "primative" we do not live in primitive times do we? We live in a world taht allows you to put your child up for adoption, we live in a world that has no questions asked laws which allow you to drop your newborn off at a church or police station and yet you condone this cuz she was scared? Christ I feel for your wife and kid I really do, the chances of your kid growing up to be a monster cuz of your views is really fucking high
We also live in a world where black men can intermingle with white women. We live in a world where Mexicans can run American-based companies. We live in a flawed world, that does not mean that we have to accept said flaws.
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Every time a potentially controversial thread begins attracting attention you always seem to appear, posting the opposite to the majority viewpoint. I don't know you – don't much want to, based on your activities here - so I have no idea if this is an attention getting troll habit of yours or if you are sharing your genuine opinions. It doesn't matter, because either way you're still deliberately picking fights on sensitive topics.

You said yourself that Rants is a place where folks trade insults and whatnot and that it doesn't bother you because it's harmless. That's true; most of the time that's what goes on in here. Your participation, though, is slightly different. You are aiming to get people where it hurts by attacking who they are as human beings, either because you enjoy sitting back calmly while others stomp their feet over your declarations or because you think there's something honourable about your 'morality' that places you above all this.

I get that some people have differing beliefs concerning family than I do. If you truly think a parent owns their children as part of a family hierarchy (husband - wife - offspring), that marriage is a special bond that should break only in extreme cases, that the only valid relationships are heterosexual ones and that community (family, friends and neighbours all preferably of the same background and race) are more important than society as a whole that's your business and I'd be willing to agree to disagree, even though you take it a few steps too far.

Today I see you going on about racial mingling as damaging DNA and leading to societal chaos. Listen up, you fucktard – I'm a white/native (or do you call that Indian? I bet you do.) mix. There's not a damn thing wrong with my DNA. I willing to bet I'm smarter than you, a better athlete than you, more educated than you, more successful than you, better looking than you and generally happier than you since I don't sit around bemoaning the collapse of society while worrying who might be trying to steal my car.

You're not unique. There's nothing exceptional about your views or any nobility in expressing them. Because I look 100% white (especially if I dye my hair lighter) people say things in front of me that they wouldn't if they realized who they were talking to. I know this because when my hair is black the 'dirty Indian' jokes disappear and strangers sometimes ask about my ethnicity because now they think I might be mixed. Funny that.

Anyway, I've wasted far more time and words on you and your motivation for sharing your wisdom online than I'd intended. Your ideas, combined with your almost robotic lack of emotion in forum discussions, tend to bring this out in people. I suppose that's a talent of a sort so, er...congrats, I guess. I have a feeling that, if you are being sincere with your statements, you'll either have a change of heart or at least one dysfunctional relationship with a loved one later in life when your belief system is challenged in the real world.
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