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Old 09-19-2012, 02:15 PM   #41 (permalink)
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so you wanna get rid of all ethnic diversity to stop people from hating each other? you don't think we'd find another reason to be at each others throats?
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:46 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Ah the good old Patriotic argument that inflames the tempers of people of all nations. Honestly if this is all you have to complain about, what a remarkable easy life you must live.

I see nothing wrong with being proud of your country, I see nothing wrong with being glad you live in such and such a country. Being English, I love living here, I like to learn of the history of my country, of good nature and the sordid affairs. Your country is infinitely part of your life where you like it or not, perhaps as stated it is just a piece of land, but you need that land to well...live on. I consider myself fortunate to live in England but one thing I have noticed about the English is that they can complain all day long about the state of the country, the government, the taxes but when someone from a different country pipes up, we rise to defend it. I find it quite amusing actually and I see no point in this thread. Pride is apart of human nature, people will always be proud of something and for some people, it is their country.
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And the OP calls himself Gandhi..
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:52 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Meh, not into politics because every discussion turns into name calling and absurd gesters. Although I do think Obama is a fucking prick and didn't keep to his promiss of "change" other then raising out taxes.I mean all he did when he was running was say the word change and yes we can and that got him elected. Anyway, yeah I hate politics in general because these fucktard politicians are only out to get (re)elected.
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:14 PM   #45 (permalink)
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OP just mad because he doesn't like it in the country he's in. This is clearly stated in a portion of his original post which I have quoted:


OP obviously has an inferiority complex and has to justify his mindset with failed logic.
Basically you don't catch on much do you mate? I think they're stupid because most Egyptians are as patriotic as Americans and even more,Ask any Egyptian and they'll give you this "Egypt is the mother of the world" bullshit.

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And the OP calls himself Gandhi..
OP also has a signature of a cartoon version of Gandhi with a giraffe sticking up his nose...
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I think the OP has an inferiority complex because he is christian but lives in Egypt so everybody assumes that he is muslim.
Thats why he spits in every second post on muslims and calls people from USA or Australia idiots for being patriots because he feels like an alien in his own country.
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:52 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I think the OP has an inferiority complex because he is christian but lives in Egypt so everybody assumes that he is muslim.
Thats why he spits in every second post on muslims and calls people from USA or Australia idiots for being patriots because he feels like an alien in his own country.
Nah its not that,You're right about me feeling like an alien in "my" country and I don't feel I like much people here even though people somewhat like me and think I'm special here.I was actually born in Kuwait and I loved it there,I'd much rather live in Kuwait than Egypt and I enjoy living in Kuwait however I'd never go so far and defend Kuwait as a country since it has its flaws just like every country.I like living in places where I can relate to people.

Also I'm not a christian,I'm an atheist.That should kick some brain cells in for ya.
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there is nothing wrong with nationalism or patriotism. nothing wrong with being proud of your country. just b/c you have low morale b/c you're from a failed state doesn't mean others should. jingoism is a big problem though.
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Nah its not that,You're right about me feeling like an alien in "my" country and I don't feel I like much people here even though people somewhat like me and think I'm special here.I was actually born in Kuwait and I loved it there,I'd much rather live in Kuwait than Egypt and I enjoy living in Kuwait however I'd never go so far and defend Kuwait as a country since it has its flaws just like every country.I like living in places where I can relate to people.

Also I'm not a christian,I'm an atheist.That should kick some brain cells in for ya.
So you are born in Kuwait, you live in Egypt but feel unlucky there and think you can compare yourself with people from USA, Australia and Canada who are born in their country and live their whole life there and think you are in a better position than these people to decide if patriotism is retarded? I dont think so.
And you being atheist doesn't change the fact and the point in my post that people think you are muslim only because you are from egypt and therefore you have an inferiority complex
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Old 09-19-2012, 04:39 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Patriotism is loyalty to one's country for what it has done. Nationalism is loyalty to one's country no matter what is has done. a Patriot defends his country loyally even if it's wrong, while a nationalist defends its coutry because he feels the need to prove he is right. Patriotism is relaxes, and Nationalism is rigid.

Tbh,Both sound fucking stupid to me.
You do realise you can be patriotic and still be critical of your own country right? Or has that deluded you. A prime example of this is Jesse Ventura. He is patriotic of the United States for its original values centered around the Constitution and Bill of Rights and was proud to serve in the Navy for his country. However he is very critical of the United States and believes the country has lost its way. Hates the fact that his country has lied to him about incidents such as the Gulf of Tonkin and the United States policies such as the way they stop and search people in airports and their justification of using torture methods such as waterboarding.

You can be patriotic and proud of your country and still be critical of it. If you don't see that then you are clearly blind to it.
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