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Old 09-09-2012, 05:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Over the last six months or so, I've noticed a double standard from so called "smarks", that exposes them for what they truly are.. just "marks".

Look at when Bryan/Punk were feuding for the WWE title. Their angle had virtually no storyline at first, until the inclusion of AJ which in any other storyline, would have immediately soured it. But, because this is Punk and Bryan, it was automatically a great feud. I remember people saying their match at Over The Limit was 5 stars, and even before the match had happened people were saying it would be a match of the year candidate.. lots of you were calling for this feud to keep going on til Summerslam, where they would have the final blow off match. By my calculations, thats a lot of PPVs

Now, look at Sheamus and Del Rio. They're on onto their THIRD one-on-one PPV match in a row, one less than the FOUR that many of you were calling CM Punk-Bryan to have from Over The Limit to Summerslam, and added to that, their feud has an actual storyline, however weak it may be. So why is 3 PPV matches too much for Sheamus and Del Rio, but too little for Punk and Bryan?

I know the real reason why.. because you're all marks. The difference between a mark and a smark is that a smark, or a "smart mark", is someone who is "smart to the business" - that they can review and criticise things objectively from a business standpoint. A "mark" is someone who cheers for their favourites and gets tangled up.

Of course, that does not negate Sheamus-Del Rio being overkill, and I am inclined to agree, but the fact is a lot of you are saying their feud is too much yet demanding more matches between wrestlers you DO like? Get it now? That's being a mark.

So in your strivance to be "smart", a lot of you just come across as marks. Not that there is anything wrong with that mind you - I like to be a mark myself sometimes as well, it's all part of the fun of wrestling, and if you completely remove yourself from "marking out", then what is the point of watching wrestling?. Also, don't confuse being "smart" to the business, with intelligence, think of it as "aware".
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Old 09-09-2012, 05:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Another one of these threads. I'm also not surprised you're the one that made it since you're once of these anti-smark smarks that bitch about this supposed "hypocrisy" of a group of people you lumped together just so you can hit your strawman.

People did bitch about Bryan v Punk feud. They bitched about them facing each other too often. They bitched about AJ. They bitched about Kane. They constantly bitch.

What is it with Russo marks always complaining about the "IWC"? Jesus.
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Old 09-09-2012, 05:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Maybe becasue Sheamus/ADR sucks? It just has no energy... Punk/Bryan had a chance if they hadn't done stupid booking. Having long fueds is actually nice, but only when there is an actual reason for the feud to continue and there is actual energy between the two. Right now, Sheamus/ADR is just booking two stars that just don't have great chemsitry, the audience really isn't into it, and very few actual care about who comes out on top in the end. That makes for a bad long feud.
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Old 09-09-2012, 05:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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For starters, Punk/Bryan only had 2 one-one matches and one multi man match. Also, Sheamus/ADR have been feuding since April. If it weren't for ADR getting injured a week before NWO they would be working their fifth PPV match together (including their fatal four way at OTL).
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You're part of the IWC too buddy. Quit acting like you're somehow above it.

People on here are bored of Del Rio vs Sheamus but not of Bryan vs Punk. They want the feud that bores them to end. No double standard there.
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Yeah, I bet when you made this thread you thought you were really smart.


You aren't.


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People did bitch about Bryan v Punk feud. They bitched about them facing each other too often. They bitched about AJ. They bitched about Kane. They constantly bitch.

What is it with Russo marks always complaining about the "IWC"? Jesus.
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Old 09-09-2012, 05:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Over the last six months or so, I've noticed a double standard from so called "smarks", that exposes them for what they truly are.. just "marks".

Look at when Bryan/Punk were feuding for the WWE title. Their angle had virtually no storyline at first, until the inclusion of AJ which in any other storyline, would have immediately soured it. But, because this is Punk and Bryan, it was automatically a great feud. I remember people saying their match at Over The Limit was 5 stars, and even before the match had happened people were saying it would be a match of the year candidate.. lots of you were calling for this feud to keep going on til Summerslam, where they would have the final blow off match. By my calculations, thats a lot of PPVs

Now, look at Sheamus and Del Rio. They're on onto their THIRD one-on-one PPV match in a row, one less than the FOUR that many of you were calling CM Punk-Bryan to have from Over The Limit to Summerslam, and added to that, their feud has an actual storyline, however weak it may be. So why is 3 PPV matches too much for Sheamus and Del Rio, but too little for Punk and Bryan?

I know the real reason why.. because you're all marks. The difference between a mark and a smark is that a smark, or a "smart mark", is someone who is "smart to the business" - that they can review and criticise things objectively from a business standpoint. A "mark" is someone who cheers for their favourites and gets tangled up.

Of course, that does not negate Sheamus-Del Rio being overkill, and I am inclined to agree, but the fact is a lot of you are saying their feud is too much yet demanding more matches between wrestlers you DO like? Get it now? That's being a mark.

So in your strivance to be "smart", a lot of you just come across as marks. Not that there is anything wrong with that mind you - I like to be a mark myself sometimes as well, it's all part of the fun of wrestling, and if you completely remove yourself from "marking out", then what is the point of watching wrestling?. Also, don't confuse being "smart" to the business, with intelligence, think of it as "aware".
You make a lot of good points. Make no mistake about it Bryan/Punk are the IWC babies. I mean they're matches togther was good but i expected much more considering the IWC put them up to such a high standard.
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That was a bunch of nonsensical bullshit.
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Over the last six months or so, I've noticed a double standard from so called "smarks", that exposes them for what they truly are.. just "marks".

Look at when Bryan/Punk were feuding for the WWE title. Their angle had virtually no storyline at first, until the inclusion of AJ which in any other storyline, would have immediately soured it. But, because this is Punk and Bryan, it was automatically a great feud. I remember people saying their match at Over The Limit was 5 stars, and even before the match had happened people were saying it would be a match of the year candidate.. lots of you were calling for this feud to keep going on til Summerslam, where they would have the final blow off match. By my calculations, thats a lot of PPVs

Now, look at Sheamus and Del Rio. They're on onto their THIRD one-on-one PPV match in a row, one less than the FOUR that many of you were calling CM Punk-Bryan to have from Over The Limit to Summerslam, and added to that, their feud has an actual storyline, however weak it may be. So why is 3 PPV matches too much for Sheamus and Del Rio, but too little for Punk and Bryan?

I know the real reason why.. because you're all marks. The difference between a mark and a smark is that a smark, or a "smart mark", is someone who is "smart to the business" - that they can review and criticise things objectively from a business standpoint. A "mark" is someone who cheers for their favourites and gets tangled up.

Of course, that does not negate Sheamus-Del Rio being overkill, and I am inclined to agree, but the fact is a lot of you are saying their feud is too much yet demanding more matches between wrestlers you DO like? Get it now? That's being a mark.

So in your strivance to be "smart", a lot of you just come across as marks. Not that there is anything wrong with that mind you - I like to be a mark myself sometimes as well, it's all part of the fun of wrestling, and if you completely remove yourself from "marking out", then what is the point of watching wrestling?. Also, don't confuse being "smart" to the business, with intelligence, think of it as "aware".
I hate idiots like you who lump the "IWC" into a collective body with no thought process behind it whatsoever. First of all, the IWC is simply a term for people who talk about wrestling on the internet. That sir would make you part of the IWC, whether you like it or not. There is no "collective". You are one of these delousional idiots who talk about how the IWC has certain favourites, and certain things they do and don't like, throwing pretty much everyone under the banner without thinking that people have individual opinions. Its a sort of us and them mentality you are bringing to the table which doesn't exist. The fact that you are trying to appear "smarter to the business" or a more of a smark than the "IWC" this collective you have just thrown people under when you don't even realise that you YOURSELF are a part of the IWC is absolutely hilarious.

For your information I have seen absolutely a huge amount of posts about how AJ ruined the "pure" wrestling feud that Punk and Bryan had, how she tarnished and completely ruined the whole rivalry. I have also seen a few posts of people who are enjoying the Del Rio/Sheamus feud still. So your argument, regardless of how well structured or good it is completely floored simply because you think the IWC is an umbrella of the same opinion which you are trying to desperately get away from. It's embarrassing.
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Such an innovative thread. Everyone and their grandmas know that the IWC has people that act extremely hypocritical, but, like Crusade said, people need to stop categorizing every wrestling fan who critiques the WWE as some evil "IWC" no life. What, are we supposed to sit through hours of bullshit and praise WWE for it? A lot of us still watch this shit because we're loyal to the WWE, similar to fans of bad sports teams. You making a thread, criticizing people for being "hypocrites" changes nothing.

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