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Old 09-07-2012, 03:30 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Just a little tidbit I wanted to offer before I fuck off and watch a film. The greatest warrior in history is a big debate, but a contender is Achilles...

...who was a RAGING BATTY MAN who hopped on the good foot and did the bad thing with his best friend Patroclus.

My point is that being a homo is nothing new. The civilisation that gave birth to what we live in today with regards to education and democracy, THEY FUCKING LOVED HOMOS.

Now, forget the mincing queens for a second. Think about the gay men who find a partner, love them and commit to them for the rest of their lives.

They live like a married hetero couple for all intents and purposes. But when they have grown old, or one should contract cancer or some such, and one should thus die, the one left behind has NO RIGHTS to the dead one's stuff. A spouse has this right. The dead one's stuff is treated as the surviving partner's stuff by law.

To deny this right from a faithful and loving gay partner is an absolute fucking disgrace.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:41 PM   #72 (permalink)
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I have a question for the former soldiers posting in this thread. The question has occurred to me as I'm from the UK and today there has been loads of news about Prince Harry being deployed as an Apache pilot in Afghanistan.

There's been lots of interviews with soldiers, vets, etc, who are all saying the same thing.

They are saying that it doesn't matter that he is a royal. Why? Because he has been through the same training as everybody else. he doesn't get special treatment. If he wants to be a soldier then he has to work his fucking arse off and prove he can cut it.

So my question is, if a gay man has what it takes to go through the training to become a marine (for example), exactly why is it a problem that he serves? This is a fucking tough bastard who made it through marine training, and you don't want him fighting beside you because he thinks Leonardo DiCaprio is fit?

I read one comment which suggested it is because gays can make others feel uncomfortable. Yeah? Well, black men can make white racists feel uncomfortable. Are you saying that if you were a racist then you wouldn't want that 6'5 brick shithouse of a black guy fighting beside you?
The problem is, it does matter that he is royal. It makes him a much bigger target for the enemy to go after. And so not just it being more dangerous to have him go into battle, the fact that he his team would be at a higher risk. This is a reason they don't necessarily let woman into combat roles (though they are integrating it today in many different ways). Rape is something people are going to do, no matter what.

So having 7 straight guys and 1 female stationed somewhere might be more risky then 8 straight/gay males. The enemy will see more of a prize in capturing a female since America does tend to see females as more fragile and precious then a male.

but my point since that was a lot of babble, him being royal puts people he is around more in danger, regardless if he can hack it. female members are more in danger on a battlefield then men. so, since there is no scientific proof that every gay men immediately wants to bang a straight man, it wouldn't be any less dangerous to have 4 gay men and 4 straight men; probably safer in fact.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:43 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Alexander the great was a homosexual aswell wasn't he ?

Sure i watched a show that said the guy always wanted to be a woman.
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Alexander the great was a homosexual aswell wasn't he ?

Sure i watched a show that said the guy always wanted to be a woman.
You are correct, not to mention King Richard The Lionhearted, he slept with the King of France, also Julius Ceasar, an affair w/Nicodemus & Lawrence of Arabia
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:04 PM   #75 (permalink)
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I've just read the article link-posted by GlassBreaks. It did actually show me a different side to the argument that I hadn't considered, and that side is when you have more than one gay in a barracks and they start having an affair together.

I can understand the story and how that particular situation would have a negative effect on the team spirit needed for military operations.

However, there is a paragraph towards the end which had my spider-sense going crazy, and I'd like to know other people's thoughts on it.

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The real objective of those seeking to lift the ban is not the end of some perceived injustice but the normalization of homosexuality. This is entirely unacceptable. While a society can tolerate some deviancy on its fringes, it cannot accept it within its mainstream. Homosexuality represents a threat in that it creates an inappropriate sexual outlet that corrupts the natural relations between men and women. If increasing numbers of men and women opt out of child-bearing and child-rearing and choose "alternative" lifestyles instead, our society increasingly will be unable to renew and maintain itself and will ultimately founder. Those who choose the "traditional" lifestyle will find their task made more difficult by a disintegrating social structure.
I understand that the military is not the place for social experiments, but everything the writer of that article said just had a shitload of bullshit poured on it by his inference that normal heterosexual couples are going to struggle to pro-create because there are more and more gay men in the world.

It reminds me of a theory I once thought of and never really committed to. If we evolved then gayness must have a reason. And then I noted the increasing populations of the world, and I thought maybe homosexuality was a natural defence mechanism against over-population.

Just a theory.
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:12 PM   #76 (permalink)
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I've just read the article link-posted by GlassBreaks. It did actually show me a different side to the argument that I hadn't considered, and that side is when you have more than one gay in a barracks and they start having an affair together.

I can understand the story and how that particular situation would have a negative effect on the team spirit needed for military operations.

However, there is a paragraph towards the end which had my spider-sense going crazy, and I'd like to know other people's thoughts on it.

Here it is:

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The real objective of those seeking to lift the ban is not the end of some perceived injustice but the normalization of homosexuality. This is entirely unacceptable. While a society can tolerate some deviancy on its fringes, it cannot accept it within its mainstream. Homosexuality represents a threat in that it creates an inappropriate sexual outlet that corrupts the natural relations between men and women. If increasing numbers of men and women opt out of child-bearing and child-rearing and choose "alternative" lifestyles instead, our society increasingly will be unable to renew and maintain itself and will ultimately founder. Those who choose the "traditional" lifestyle will find their task made more difficult by a disintegrating social structure.
I understand that the military is not the place for social experiments, but everything the writer of that article said just had a shitload of bullshit poured on it by his inference that normal heterosexual couples are going to struggle to pro-create because there are more and more gay men in the world.

It reminds me of a theory I once thought of and never really committed to. If we evolved then gayness must have a reason. And then I noted the increasing populations of the world, and I thought maybe homosexuality was a natural defence mechanism against over-population.

Just a theory.
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I finally decided that I had no choice but to inform our superiors. I asked our platoon sergeant how to get a couple of homosexuals out of the Army.
That's the point where I stopped respecting that writer's experience. It wasn't enough to just report the incident, or to actually confront it when it began like an adult, but instead he went off to get rid of 'em gays. And yeah, I highlighted that paragraph you pulled a little bit up the page - it's very telling of the writer's actual stance on homosexuality, no matter how much he wants us to believe he understands their plight.
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:16 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Sums up how backwards some people are when it comes to rights for gay people. Gays and lesbians should have equal rights like straight couples.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:48 PM   #78 (permalink)
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The way how GlassBreaks is threated in this thread is a typical response "It's 2012! You must accept gays" but on the other hand people are in 2012 not ready to accept other opinions like this of GlassBreaks.
The guy feels uncomfortable and this is his right.

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then why let women serve?
The women who serve have a separate bathroom and a room for sleep. Men and women are seperate while here straight men and homosexuals share the same rooms

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It sounds like you're not that comfortable with your own sexual orientation. Could it be that you aren't comfortable around gays because you yourself are trying to suppress your own homosexual desires?

I myself am a homosexual and I can totally relate to what you're going through. When I first realized that I was gay I tried to hide it up by being homophobic. It was a stupid thing to do and it only made the process of accepting myself for who I am much worse. You need to stop this behavior right now and just learn to embrace the rainbow. PM me if you want to discuss this more. I am here to help, bud.
I don't know what you try to accomplish here. Quoting someone who will not accept homosexuals and making fun of him by making homophobic remarks? The term rainbow is very degrading and is one of the stereotypes.
That what you do is like me messing with a racist in a Malcolm X thread by posting "get the fuck out you racist pig and let the .....s post"

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From the content of your post it seems like you are well versed in what sexually arouses a homosexual man. Either that or you're just plain stupid and think that all homosexual men are hypersexual and want to fuck any and all guys at all times.

Aren't there much more important things to be worrying about than sexual orientation?
Don't blame people like GlassBreaks for thinking that all gays are hypersexual who want to fuck all the time. Thank the homosexuals for dressing like Mr. Slave or a giant penis on those parades. It's their fault for dressing and acting like that instead of fightig for their rights in a rightful way.

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Are you afraid he is going to rape you in the butt?
That has nothing to do with raping in the butt. If a woman serves with a bunch of men for weeks she would feel also not comfortable. That doesn't mean that these guys are psychos who would rape her, that has something to do that she is a woman and they will look at her different, especially when they spend much time together away from home. Same here with the example of GlassBreaks.
I dont give a fuck if my neighbour thinks of a woman, man or a horse in his fantasies but if I have to share a room with him It would bother me

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To be honest I am surprised that it was posted on page 5 and not earlier. That means every Israeli who hates muslims wishes he was one and every muslim who hates americans wishes he would live in USA.
I hate that, this is so old, so overused to death. Why can somebody not hate gays simply because he hates them?
If you agree with him or not but at least GlassBreaks has some arguments while some people on the other side posts nothing than immature homophobic jokes.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:52 PM   #79 (permalink)
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That has nothing to do with raping in the butt. If a woman serves with a bunch of men for weeks she would feel also not comfortable. That doesn't mean that these guys are psychos who would rape her, that has something to do that she is a woman and they will look at her different, especially when they spend much time together away from home. Same here with the example of GlassBreaks.
I dont give a fuck if my neighbour thinks of a woman, man or a horse in his fantasies but if I have to share a room with him It would bother me
If you're in the military then you should really get the fuck over it.

Bigger things going on to worry about, surely.
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