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Old 09-07-2012, 01:11 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Yet, you do neither. All you do is call me stupid -by example- without giving an explanation as to why. I never said anyone who disagreed with me was stupid, just that I did not agree with them. You, sir, look like a complete dunce. You provide no reasoning for you slander, and look quite stupid for opening your e-mouth.

I speak from experience. You are probably a keyboard warrior who's fired guns on Call of Duty.

Coincidence?
Urgh. No I do not play CoD, I'm not intrested in shooters. No I am not a keyboard warrior or my post count would be a lot higher given the time I have been a member of this site. Most people who have commented on your post have tried educating you but you can't get logic into your skull which is probably one of the reason you joined the army in the first place.

Also your uneducated self will not be able to learn the simple logic behind these posts because you're too stuck in your 1950's mindset that most of the world have thankfully moved on from. The people that need to be educated are the new generations so they don't turn out to be like you, you terrible terrible person.
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:19 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I strictly said it was uncomfortable. I don't agree with homosexuality, therefore it makes me uncomfortable. Nowhere did I say or even insinuate what I am afraid of being raped by one. Another witty comment to look intelligent, though. You're so smart...
But surely you understand your being uncomfortable is - necessarily - wholly irrelevant in the bigger picture? Your comfort, or lack thereof, can't halt the progress of gay rights anymore than racists could halt black rights, or sexists could halt women's rights.
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:19 PM   #63 (permalink)
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There is male on male rape in every branch of service. When you're stuck in a valley doing 180 degree security or on mission, you create a bond with the guys in your squad. It's that simple.

You're out there, on edge all the fucking time. All of a sudden another guy comes on to you. You have a loaded M4 with Surefire lighting, vertical grip, and Aimpoint Red Dot. It's not a pretty situation, but that's how you have to be out there. Any little thing that threatens you sets you the fuck off.
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Where did I say anything to the effect of rape? What are you even talking about? Your walls of text make absolutely zero sense and yet you continue to drag it out like I'm saying something that you have no evidence of. It's pathetic, really. I'm done talking to you.


Btw your post about men in boxers mounting machine guns being a gay wet dream was VERY insightful.
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Oh man I can see now why this was moved to Rants, the homophobia inhere is off the charts!!! Look out for them gays!!!!
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I have a question for the former soldiers posting in this thread. The question has occurred to me as I'm from the UK and today there has been loads of news about Prince Harry being deployed as an Apache pilot in Afghanistan.

There's been lots of interviews with soldiers, vets, etc, who are all saying the same thing.

They are saying that it doesn't matter that he is a royal. Why? Because he has been through the same training as everybody else. he doesn't get special treatment. If he wants to be a soldier then he has to work his fucking arse off and prove he can cut it.

So my question is, if a gay man has what it takes to go through the training to become a marine (for example), exactly why is it a problem that he serves? This is a fucking tough bastard who made it through marine training, and you don't want him fighting beside you because he thinks Leonardo DiCaprio is fit?

I read one comment which suggested it is because gays can make others feel uncomfortable. Yeah? Well, black men can make white racists feel uncomfortable. Are you saying that if you were a racist then you wouldn't want that 6'5 brick shithouse of a black guy fighting beside you?
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I have a question for the former soldiers posting in this thread. The question has occurred to me as I'm from the UK and today there has been loads of news about Prince Harry being deployed as an Apache pilot in Afghanistan.

There's been lots of interviews with soldiers, vets, etc, who are all saying the same thing.

They are saying that it doesn't matter that he is a royal. Why? Because he has been through the same training as everybody else. he doesn't get special treatment. If he wants to be a soldier then he has to work his fucking arse off and prove he can cut it.

So my question is, if a gay man has what it takes to go through the training to become a marine (for example), exactly why is it a problem that he serves? This is a fucking tough bastard who made it through marine training, and you don't want him fighting beside you because he thinks Leonardo DiCaprio is fit?

I read one comment which suggested it is because gays can make others feel uncomfortable. Yeah? Well, black men can make white racists feel uncomfortable. Are you saying that if you were a racist then you wouldn't want that 6'5 brick shithouse of a black guy fighting beside you?

From what I understand after reading this thread is they will rape they straight one cuz they have urges...
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The military is not a place where you run tests on social norms. It's far too serious for that.

I pretty much agree with everything this guy has to say, and I'm leaving this thread. Most of you are incapable of discussing the matter because you are too politically correct, extremely invasive of others views to the point where you incapable of having a discussion without throwing out blanket statements like "stupid" or "in the closet" or likely have never served a single day in any type of combat branch, rendering your opinion on what should happen invalid.
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The military is not a place where you run tests on social norms. It's far too serious for that.

I pretty much agree with everything this guy has to say, and I'm leaving this thread. Most of your are incapable of discussing the matter because you are too politically correct, or likely have never served a single day in any type of combat branch, rendering your opinion on what should happen invalid.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:13 PM   #69 (permalink)
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The military is not a place where you run tests on social norms. It's far too serious for that.

I pretty much agree with everything this guy has to say, and I'm leaving this thread. Most of you are incapable of discussing the matter because you are (1) too politically correct, (2) extremely invasive of others views to the point where you incapable of having a discussion without throwing out blanket statements like "stupid" or "in the closet" or (3) likely have never served a single day in any type of combat branch, rendering your opinion on what should happen invalid.
http://www.compleatheretic.com/pubs/essays/gayban2.html
(1) Being politically correct isn't a bad thing, despite what racists, sexists, homophobes, and otherwise prejudiced people might think. Being politically correct is basically analogous to "being considerate of others". It has problems, when people insist on being offended by very small things for no reason, but 99% of the time, it's a good thing.

(2) As opposed to being extremely intolerant of others' lifestyles to the point of discriminating against gay people on the basis that you feel a bit uncomfortable around them.

(3) You've never spent a day as a gay man, rendering your opinion on their "urges" invalid.

And as for that link, it starts off reading like an open-minded fellow had a bad experience in his barracks, but then it gets to this:

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The real objective of those seeking to lift the ban is not the end of some perceived injustice but the normalization of homosexuality. This is entirely unacceptable. While a society can tolerate some deviancy on its fringes, it cannot accept it within its mainstream. Homosexuality represents a threat in that it creates an inappropriate sexual outlet that corrupts the natural relations between men and women. If increasing numbers of men and women opt out of child-bearing and child-rearing and choose "alternative" lifestyles instead, our society increasingly will be unable to renew and maintain itself and will ultimately founder. Those who choose the "traditional" lifestyle will find their task made more difficult by a disintegrating social structure.
Fuck enormously off. It's just homophobia and idiocy couched in an anecdote.
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The military is not a place where you run tests on social norms. It's far too serious for that.

I pretty much agree with everything this guy has to say, and I'm leaving this thread. Most of you are incapable of discussing the matter because you are too politically correct, extremely invasive of others views to the point where you incapable of having a discussion without throwing out blanket statements like "stupid" or "in the closet" or likely have never served a single day in any type of combat branch, rendering your opinion on what should happen invalid.
http://www.compleatheretic.com/pubs/essays/gayban2.html
You're right in that the military is no place to run tests on social norms. However, homosexuality shouldn't even be an issue when compared to just about every other aspect of combat. You are homophobic because you are uncomfortable around gay men, they "sexually disgust" you, you don't want to afford homosexuals serving in the military the same benefits as heterosexuals in the military and you paint all gay men to be sexually aroused at the drop of a pin just by being in close quarters with another man. Do you get sexually aroused around any and all women? If so, you need a medical evaluation (both physical and psychological) It's quite pathetic, you hide behind the "YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE!" line while accusing others of being incapable of discussion.
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