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**Crona** · 09-07-2012, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kobra860

What people do in the bedroom should stay private.

I'm sick of people making Hitler comparisons when they don't fit. Most people out there aren't 100% comfortable with gay people. Everyone is the most liberal person in the world until their son or daughter comes out of the closet then people show their true feelings. Some people may not flinch at all but most people will take a while to accept it.

Extremes? If you look at the pictures from gay pride parades it's almost the equivalent of a minstrel show for gay people. All of the worst gay stereotypes are perpetuated and people try to pass it off as liberating for them. Sexual orientation and other aspects of sexuality shouldn't be publicized in that manner.

Yes, what people do in the bedroom should be private. Yet I rarely see anyone throwing a shit fit over a heterosexual couple.

The Hitler comparisons do fit in that antisemitism and homophobia are forms of bigotry that deny people their rights, humanity, personhood (all of which I already explained). When I have kids, I couldn't care less if one of them happens to be homosexual. There are FAR worse things people can be than homosexual.

Yes, they are extremes. How difficult is that to follow? Not ALL homosexual men dress like that on a regular basis as everyday attire. People like to throw around the "keep it in the bedroom" when it comes to homosexuality but would not think to bat an eyelash when it's under the umbrella of heterosexuality.

**Catalanotto** · 09-07-2012, 11:31 PM

Pages and pages of people fighting over people's sexuality.

Who gives a fuck,fools.

**LadyCroft** · 09-07-2012, 11:31 PM

Anybody that wants to fight for their country should be allowed to fight for their fucking country... I don't care if they are fucking cows.

kobra860 · 09-07-2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Makaveli

Exactly, but people still put their business out there. You know how many guys I've been around who talk about what girls they have fucked or want to fuck? No one cares about their business either but they still put it out there? Why are we singling out gays with "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"? It's discriminatory.

Just because some straight people do it, it doesn't mean that everyone still tolerates it. It annoys me when I see heterosexual couples making out in public. Same for when guys brag about their sexual conquests. Also for the guys bragging, they're usually doing it in informal settings. They don't have any flags or bumper stickers.

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Every race, culture, ethnicity, etc. has a stereotype and every single one of them is perpetuated by somebody. Just because SOME gays perpetuate a stereotype doesn't mean they're all the same just like whites, blacks, asians, etc. aren't the same. I'm a white guy that listens to rap, uses slang, and hangs around more blacks than I do whites. It's 2012, get over stereotypes because they're all stupid and ignorant. Thanks.

I know that. However, I find it implausible that the gay pride parades are supposed to be uplifting when it perpetuates the negative stereotypes that gay people combat. When the stereotypes being perpetuated are ridiculous like wearing revealing leather attire how does that accomplish anything? The pride parades should focus on portraying gay people as just regular people or shouldn't really exist to begin with. The number one stereotype for gay people is sexual deviancy and hypersexuality so when people see those images at the pride parades that are supposed to be uplifting how are we supposed to take it? I know that it's just some gay people who are like that but the pride parades are more about attention and being flamboyant.

Stereotypes will always have a prominent place in our society no matter how ridiculous they are.

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Originally Posted by C_JBennett

The Hitler comparisons do fit in that antisemitism and homophobia are forms of bigotry that deny people their rights, humanity, personhood (all of which I already explained). When I have kids, I couldn't care less if one of them happens to be homosexual. There are FAR worse things people can be than homosexual.

The main right that gay people are complaining about is the right to marry. They're not being banned from public places or forced to use separate bathrooms. That's really the only "issue" that gay people are worried about right now and based on the current state of heterosexual marriage in this country, it's not really worth fighting for. And let's be honest: it's all about the financial benefits from marriage. That's what they're fighting for.

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Originally Posted by C_JBennett

Yes, they are extremes. How difficult is that to follow? Not ALL homosexual men dress like that on a regular basis as everyday attire. People like to throw around the "keep it in the bedroom" when it comes to homosexuality but would not think to bat an eyelash when it's under the umbrella of heterosexuality.

I never said that they did. I mentioned earlier that I have the same feelings about heterosexuality in that I don't like PDA and people talking publicly about their sex life.

**Makaveli** · 09-08-2012, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kobra860

I know that. However, I find it implausible that the gay pride parades are supposed to be uplifting when it perpetuates the negative stereotypes that gay people combat. When the stereotypes being perpetuated are ridiculous like wearing revealing leather attire how does that accomplish anything? The pride parades should focus on portraying gay people as just regular people or shouldn't really exist to begin with.

They're being themselves. If they wanna wear leather chaps and cowboy boots in the streets during a gay pride parade, or anytime for that matter, then they should be allowed to. You have a problem with it because it's different. People fear what's different. That's why racism and pretty much hate in general exists. Judge someone based on the content of their character, not their wardrobe. They act as they do in those parades not because they're trying to piss people off, but because they're happy that they can finally be surrounded by people who aren't giant dickholes and actually accept them for who they are and don't write them off as a "fag". And so what if they're trying to piss people off? The only ones they'd piss off are the intolerant, narrow minded bigots who hate them in the first place.

kobra860 · 09-08-2012, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Makaveli

They're being themselves. If they wanna wear leather chaps and cowboy boots in the streets during a gay pride parade, or anytime for that matter, then they should be allowed to. You have a problem with it because it's different. People fear what's different. That's why racism and pretty much hate in general exists. Judge someone based on the content of their character, not their wardrobe. They act as they do in those parades not because they're trying to piss people off, but because they're happy that they can finally be surrounded by people who aren't giant dickholes and actually accept them for who they are and don't write them off as a "fag". And so what if they're trying to piss people off? The only ones they'd piss off are the intolerant, narrow minded bigots who hate them in the first place.

They're wearing clothes much skimpier and revealing than leather chaps. I wouldn't really say that they're being themselves because it's not like they wear those clothes everyday. Let's not compare racism and homophobia because those are two completely different topics.

**Makaveli** · 09-08-2012, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kobra860

They're wearing clothes much skimpier and revealing than leather chaps. I wouldn't really say that they're being themselves because it's not like they wear those clothes everyday.

Do they have celebratory parades everyday? Again, not seeing the problem here.

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Let's not compare racism and homophobia because those are two completely different topics.

No, at the root of it all, they're very much alike. Both stem from fear, ignorance, and intolerance.

eddiefan · 09-08-2012, 01:32 AM

Don't really like the image gay pride parades portray for homosexual men and a lot of my gay friends don't either. But I really couldn't care. If it makes them happy then so be it. It is their right to hold such a parade. It does not disturb my world in the slightest and it shouldn't bother people all that much. Really don't see the harm in it.

Warren Zevon · 09-09-2012, 12:12 AM

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Why? Not letting someone defend their country or letting them have the same rights as every other human being is the exact definition of bigotry.

Homosexuality isn't exactly patriotic.

**Catalanotto** · 09-09-2012, 12:20 AM

Keep slapping your wife around, cunt.