Trust me,those phaggots are not hard rock, they are metalcore, and if they consider themselves hard rock, it's because metalcore is shunned in the metal community and they think pretending to be hard rock will separate them from the group of shit. Unfortunately, metal fans are smarter than this and know their true genre.
In fact, I am pretty sure you can even go on some of their pages and see metalcore listed or hardcore metal.
Never understood the hate for metalcore. It's not metal. Not even close.
Not saying that's what you're saying, just bitching.