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Old 06-29-2012, 12:08 AM   #71 (permalink)
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He got lazy after Volume 2 because he was basically the default #1 guy in NY after BIG's death and you could see a lot less effort from then on. Then he started signing young Philly rappers and subsequently "borrow" their style (Young Chris especially). So while he's had a ton of commercial success and hit singles by virtue of career longevity, I still can't see him in the top 5 based on ability. His early career was filled with a lot of great songs, but he's spent more than half a career on cruise control. I guess it could be worse, he could've tried way too hard like Nas and continually disappoint every release. Jay continually puts out decent to good music, but his potential is much greater.

Talking strictly on their primes? BIG, Rakim, Ice Cube (up to Lethal Injection), Scarface (Diary/Mr. Scarface is Back), Nas (Illmatic/It Was Written) and 2pac (Me Against the World/Thug Life era) are all above Jay.

My favorite Jay song, so many quotables:


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Old 06-29-2012, 12:10 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Led Zeppelin were very successful but they stuffed their music with 2-3 cords a piece, arranged them in linear fashion and threw in a boring atmospheric backdrop.
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:13 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Led Zeppelin are Gods. Except for that time Jimmy Page let Puff Daddy use the Kashmir riff for one of his songs...that was shit.
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:15 AM   #74 (permalink)
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Zeppelin were great.... at taking other people's music. They were like the first rap producers.
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:19 AM   #75 (permalink)
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The Who, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles were all massively influenced by Little Richard. I guess they must have stolen his style as well? Stairway to Heaven was not stolen or Black Dog or Whole Lotta Love or the Immigrant song.

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Old 06-29-2012, 12:20 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Shit like Lil Wayne, Jay-Z, Drake, Machine Gun Kelly, Wiz Khalifa, etc, are all completely terrible. I am against everything these piece of shit "artists" stand for.
Figures.

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Led Zeppelin are Gods. Except for that time Jimmy Page let Puff Daddy use the Kashmir riff for one of his songs...that was shit.
The only time I really enjoyed Jimmy's voice or his band's production was in Stairway to Heaven. I personally don't get all of the fuss surrounding some of their albums like Physical Graffitti and Houses of the Holy.
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If you don't get Physical Graffiti, sorry man. Page was lead guitar. Plant was vocals. Zeppelin's greatest member was Bonham though.
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Led Zeppelin are Gods. Except for that time Jimmy Page let Puff Daddy use the Kashmir riff for one of his songs...that was shit.
I always thought it was great.

I love "Kashmir" and "Come With Me".
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Figures.

So are you scared of a black guy walking down the street with a hoodie, jeans an NY or LA hat with Timberland boots on.
No. I live in a black neighborhood actually. My best friend is black as well.
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