we should be allowed to kill criminals fleeing from a violent crime they committed. - Page 3 - Wrestling Forum : WWE, TNA, Debate League, Wrestling Videos, Women of Wrestling Forums
Reply

Old 05-24-2012, 02:39 AM   #21 (permalink)
Wheel Man for SCOTT STEINER
 
-Halo-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,483
-Halo- needs to take rep more serious-Halo- needs to take rep more serious-Halo- needs to take rep more serious-Halo- needs to take rep more serious-Halo- needs to take rep more serious-Halo- needs to take rep more serious
Default Re: we should be allowed to kill criminals fleeing from a violent crime they committe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil'Jimmy View Post
Father steals food to feed his son , does he deserve to lose a hand?

Husband commits euthanasia to help his wife pass away peacefully , do he deserve to die?

And what a about white collar crime ( Fraud etc) how would you punish those people? Chop off there bank accounts?
The man should get a job to feed his son, If he cant, why not ask a person to buy him a loaf of bread instead of stealing it from them. Or get left overs from a food court.

I think people should not be told how they want to die, if they want a helping hand, so be it.

Say if they dont have a bank account, or no money in the bank ? ID chop of their fingers.

Last edited by -Halo- : 05-24-2012 at 02:42 AM.
-Halo- is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 05-24-2012, 02:55 AM   #22 (permalink)
What?
What?
 
Evolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,956
Evolution whored out on repEvolution whored out on repEvolution whored out on repEvolution whored out on repEvolution whored out on repEvolution whored out on repEvolution whored out on repEvolution whored out on repEvolution whored out on repEvolution whored out on repEvolution whored out on rep
Default Re: we should be allowed to kill criminals fleeing from a violent crime they committe

One could argue that yes that person did a terrible thing, but it's not your decision to make with how he is punished. I agree with you to some extent that trash like that deserve what's coming to them, but violence in return isn't necessarily the answer.
Evolution is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2012, 03:50 AM   #23 (permalink)
The Loose Cannon
 
Klee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: <<<SOA>>>
Posts: 5,573
Klee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREW
Default Re: we should be allowed to kill criminals fleeing from a violent crime they committe

This is the most random thread and idea.

OP, how in the blue hell could that possible work?
(are you a killer?)

There is something called "innocent until proven guilty" which makes a lot of sense. There is no room for error when it come to life and death and killing someone!

You're saying you'd kill someone if you saw them kill someone else. Vigilante justice is all well and good but could you live with murdering an innocent man? or murder in general? It's fun to joke around and say you'd have to kill 'em and all that but i bet you're a complete pussy and would run home scared.

Capital punishment is the way forward in certain cases?
__________________
Klee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2012, 03:54 AM   #24 (permalink)
The Loose Cannon
 
Klee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: <<<SOA>>>
Posts: 5,573
Klee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREWKlee is new to the CHATBOX CREW
Default Re: we should be allowed to kill criminals fleeing from a violent crime they committe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Snrub View Post
here is something you cant undeerrsstaaanndd
How I could just Kill a maaaaaaaaaaaan!

__________________
Klee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2012, 04:19 AM   #25 (permalink)
#24
 
LUCK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: 62 days
Posts: 19,009
LUCK made the HOF BallotLUCK made the HOF BallotLUCK made the HOF BallotLUCK made the HOF BallotLUCK made the HOF BallotLUCK made the HOF BallotLUCK made the HOF BallotLUCK made the HOF BallotLUCK made the HOF BallotLUCK made the HOF BallotLUCK made the HOF Ballot
Default Re: we should be allowed to kill criminals fleeing from a violent crime they committe

op how often do you see someone killing someone else on the street just steal from them? pretty sure most people just point their gun at the person and force them to give them their shit and not shoot so they don't get charged for murder.
__________________


LUCK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2012, 04:34 AM   #26 (permalink)
Winning World titles, Custom Made Clothes
 
just1988's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Bolton, England
Posts: 15,638
just1988 has posts worth readingjust1988 has posts worth readingjust1988 has posts worth readingjust1988 has posts worth readingjust1988 has posts worth readingjust1988 has posts worth readingjust1988 has posts worth readingjust1988 has posts worth readingjust1988 has posts worth readingjust1988 has posts worth readingjust1988 has posts worth reading
Default Re: we should be allowed to kill criminals fleeing from a violent crime they committe

OP, I see you have some anger issues. I recommend you get a hobby and spend less time on the internet wishing death on criminals.
__________________

COME ON IN, ADD, FOLLOW AND SUBSCRIBE


Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/anwar.thinks
Twitter: http://twitter.com/anwar_thinks
just1988 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2012, 04:48 PM   #27 (permalink)
Backyard Wrestling
 
Geralt of Rivia's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 339
Geralt of Rivia is in rep purgatory
Default Re: we should be allowed to kill criminals fleeing from a violent crime they committe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Walls View Post
Or the more realistic scenario is that the average person walking down the street 1. doesn't carry a firearm on them, 2. aren't sharp shooters and it would be hard to hit a target that's running away and 3. odds are he kills you.

Plus, you're not taking into account the shock you'd feel by seeing someone murdered in front of you. We'll see how bad ass you really are when that happens and it dawns on you quickly that he could very well do the same to you and you only have a few seconds to make a choice. My choice would be saving myself and getting the fuck out of there because I like to live.
nah. to be honest what you're saying is downright cowardly. in fact, that's part of the problem today: cowardly citizens. a lot of times people see someone getting mugged/attacked and they just keep walking by, they don't even call for help. honestly, i wouldn't give a shit if the criminal wanted to kill me, that would actually work in my favor, cause then i could kill him and say it was self-defense. chances are i'd see him before he saw me, anyway. it's a little cowardly that you would run away from someone who needed help, just because you wanted to save yourself. what if it was someone you loved that got killed and the criminal ran away, and was never caught? i bet then you'd thank the citizen who shot the piece of shit. there is absolutely nothing wrong with killing criminals, and i am 100% positive that i could kill a criminal and not have it "weigh on my conscience". this has nothing to do with trying to be a "bad ass". this is about fighting back against crime, which all able-bodied citizens should do. we work hard for our money, and then some piece of trash wants to take it from us? fuck that, i'll kill any criminal scum that wants to hurt me, my family, or any innocent person.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wesson View Post
op how often do you see someone killing someone else on the street just steal from them? pretty sure most people just point their gun at the person and force them to give them their shit and not shoot so they don't get charged for murder.
it happens A LOT more than you think. it really depends where you stay at. here in miami a lot of innocent people get killed for stupid shit. some crackhead needed money, so he robs someone down the street, but it gets out of hand, he panics, and shoots the person. he takes what little money the person has, and flees. sounds great, doesn't it?

a lot of times the mugger doesn't mean to kill the victim, but he does anyway. they shoot them or stab them once, but since they don't call for help for the person (obviously) the victim bleeds to death on the street, or wherever they got robbed at.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloverleaf View Post
This is the most random thread and idea.

OP, how in the blue hell could that possible work?
(are you a killer?)

There is something called "innocent until proven guilty" which makes a lot of sense. There is no room for error when it come to life and death and killing someone!

You're saying you'd kill someone if you saw them kill someone else. Vigilante justice is all well and good but could you live with murdering an innocent man? or murder in general? It's fun to joke around and say you'd have to kill 'em and all that but i bet you're a complete pussy and would run home scared.

Capital punishment is the way forward in certain cases?
nah, i'm not a "bad ass" by any means but i am sure as hell not a coward, and i would never want to hurt anyone who didn't deserve it. maybe i take this issue a little personal, because a friend of mine who i knew for years got killed outside of his house and they never found the person that did it. either way, i see nothing wrong with killing criminals. and why would it traumatize me to kill some murdering trash, anyway? i'd be doing the world a favor. capital punishment is retarded, anyway. it costs more money to kill someone on a death sentence than it does to keep them in jail. why not just kill them then and there? i'm sure the jury would be in your favor if you're an honest citizen with a gun liscense, and there's sufficient evidence at the scene that the criminal you killed had murdered the victim.
__________________
Fav 5: Goldberg, Kurt Angle(WWE), The Rock, Steve Austin, Sting(WCW)

Last edited by Geralt of Rivia : 05-24-2012 at 05:02 PM.
Geralt of Rivia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2012, 05:00 PM   #28 (permalink)
The Man
 
BEST FOR BUSINESS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 12,936
BEST FOR BUSINESS has made a name for themselvesBEST FOR BUSINESS has made a name for themselvesBEST FOR BUSINESS has made a name for themselvesBEST FOR BUSINESS has made a name for themselvesBEST FOR BUSINESS has made a name for themselvesBEST FOR BUSINESS has made a name for themselvesBEST FOR BUSINESS has made a name for themselvesBEST FOR BUSINESS has made a name for themselvesBEST FOR BUSINESS has made a name for themselvesBEST FOR BUSINESS has made a name for themselvesBEST FOR BUSINESS has made a name for themselves
Default Re: we should be allowed to kill criminals fleeing from a violent crime they committe

So, you're saying we should be able to shoot at people running away in a crowded area if you suspect them of committing a crime.

WHAT COULD GO WRONG?
BEST FOR BUSINESS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2012, 06:28 PM   #29 (permalink)
Moron
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: WF KLIQ OVERALLS
Posts: 1,787
LINK needs to take rep more seriousLINK needs to take rep more seriousLINK needs to take rep more seriousLINK needs to take rep more seriousLINK needs to take rep more seriousLINK needs to take rep more serious
Default Re: we should be allowed to kill criminals fleeing from a violent crime they committe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Geralt of Rivia View Post
imagine this scenario. you're walking down the street, minding your own business, when you see an innocent person get mugged and stabbed by some scum, the scum searches for valuables from the dead victim, but he finds nothing. this trash killed this innocent person for no reason, and then flees like a coward. technically you can't kill this guy because he's not facing you OR threatening your life... but we SHOULD be able to. we should be allowed to kill all criminal trash we find in the street. that way, these lowlife pieces of shit will know that the common man (or woman) isn't afraid and WILL fight back, and they'll stop preying on innocent people.
Can't say I agree. Let's say the 'scum' is an undercover cop or your perception of the scenario is completely wrong. Like the person you think is 'innocent' really just stole the 'scum's' shit and in fact is acting out the behavior you would commit to him as an outsider.

You see innocent and scum. Scum stabs innocent. You shoot scum. But it turns out scum was the victim and was committing the very vigilante justice you committed to him. So now you(innocent) are going to jail. Scum(innocent) is dead and innocent(scum) is dead. Everyone loses. By far you serve more justice as a witness to the incident in a later trial of some sort than by taking matters into your own hands, even if innocent and scum really are there described names.

This is a metaphor for why laissez faire economics, privatization, globalization and republicans need to go as well. Unless you go build yourself a cabin in the woods somewhere and fend for yourself, then all people put each other at a risk if they feel that the response to violence, crime or some other offense is more of the same.

An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, is fine but it's implications aren't the rhetoric churches spew today. Its not you get your eye poked out and then you poke that guys out. It's your eye gets poked out so the person that poked it out, owes you an eye. In some form that person should feel an obligation to you and if the person does not return the obligation than the courts, God, fate, karma or whatever will have to step in. The expression is always taken out of context and in the Bible it even describes the phrase to be at the discretion of 'outside judges' and not to be taken in private revenge.

Bible or not though the vigilante acts should not be acted out in some heroic or passionate form. If later you find out that scum was never convicted but he was guilty, and you want to shoot him I would be a lot more supportive of that. BUT to just fire in a scenario where you really do not know the situation from an outside perspective, is insane.
LINK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2012, 06:31 PM   #30 (permalink)
I'm going to laugh when I'm buried alive
 
Walls's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 15,326
Walls is new to the CHATBOX CREWWalls is new to the CHATBOX CREWWalls is new to the CHATBOX CREWWalls is new to the CHATBOX CREWWalls is new to the CHATBOX CREWWalls is new to the CHATBOX CREWWalls is new to the CHATBOX CREWWalls is new to the CHATBOX CREWWalls is new to the CHATBOX CREWWalls is new to the CHATBOX CREWWalls is new to the CHATBOX CREW
Default Re: we should be allowed to kill criminals fleeing from a violent crime they committe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Geralt of Rivia View Post
nah. to be honest what you're saying is downright cowardly. in fact, that's part of the problem today: cowardly citizens. a lot of times people see someone getting mugged/attacked and they just keep walking by, they don't even call for help. honestly, i wouldn't give a shit if the criminal wanted to kill me, that would actually work in my favor, cause then i could kill him and say it was self-defense. chances are i'd see him before he saw me, anyway. it's a little cowardly that you would run away from someone who needed help, just because you wanted to save yourself. what if it was someone you loved that got killed and the criminal ran away, and was never caught? i bet then you'd thank the citizen who shot the piece of shit. there is absolutely nothing wrong with killing criminals, and i am 100% positive that i could kill a criminal and not have it "weigh on my conscience". this has nothing to do with trying to be a "bad ass". this is about fighting back against crime, which all able-bodied citizens should do. we work hard for our money, and then some piece of trash wants to take it from us? fuck that, i'll kill any criminal scum that wants to hurt me, my family, or any innocent person.



it happens A LOT more than you think. it really depends where you stay at. here in miami a lot of innocent people get killed for stupid shit. some crackhead needed money, so he robs someone down the street, but it gets out of hand, he panics, and shoots the person. he takes what little money the person has, and flees. sounds great, doesn't it?

a lot of times the mugger doesn't mean to kill the victim, but he does anyway. they shoot them or stab them once, but since they don't call for help for the person (obviously) the victim bleeds to death on the street, or wherever they got robbed at.



nah, i'm not a "bad ass" by any means but i am sure as hell not a coward, and i would never want to hurt anyone who didn't deserve it. maybe i take this issue a little personal, because a friend of mine who i knew for years got killed outside of his house and they never found the person that did it. either way, i see nothing wrong with killing criminals. and why would it traumatize me to kill some murdering trash, anyway? i'd be doing the world a favor. capital punishment is retarded, anyway. it costs more money to kill someone on a death sentence than it does to keep them in jail. why not just kill them then and there? i'm sure the jury would be in your favor if you're an honest citizen with a gun liscense, and there's sufficient evidence at the scene that the criminal you killed had murdered the victim.



I am in no way a coward. I'm smart, hence getting the fuck out of there so I can live another day. Honestly, I couldn't care less if someone got stabbed in the middle of the street. I'd go call for some help but that's about it. And even then I'd be more concerned with my own safety first, as I should be. I will in no way EVER put myself at risk for someone else unless I greatly care for that person. And considering there are only about 4 people I legit care about in this world, I'm not going to run into this problem very often.

I look at it this way, I could be like Robocop like you want to be and potentially get myself killed OR I could get the fuck out of there and go on living my life instead of potentially dying for no fucking reason. I have to say, my way is the smarter way to go.
Walls is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Powered by vBulletin Copyright 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios