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Old 05-20-2012, 02:58 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:08 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Ignorant? This thread says otherwise.

If all republicans are rich and preying on the poor, wouldn't that make them the alphas and intelligent ones?

What do you think costs the country more? War or social programs? I'll give you a hint, it isn't war.

Liberals are bankrupting the country and providing more Americans with a sense of entitlement. It pays more to not work, than to work.

Obama's policies have killed innovation, and divided the country. Everything is rich against poor (tax arguments), black against white (coming out for Trayvon), and of course liberal against republican.

I wish people would just shuttup and vote how they feel. And remember this is how you voted.

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Typical Republican rebuttal. First line... attack and undermine your opponents with an insult(the first sign of a weak argument) while addressing and answering who? No one particular, just your fantasy opponent.

Second line... make some extreme generalization about something and create a logical fallacy with it. All republicans are preying on the rich and poor (lol who even said that) which makes them the alphas and intelligent ones (no one would argue that is what they think of themselves but no in reality they are neither and no one said they were).

Third line... completely and totally make up a "fact". A social program costs more than a war? So you are saying that Bush started a lot of social programs in his tenure to tank the economy? Hmmm... or I know what you are saying... that the total amount of money towards social programs per year outweighs the bottom line of a war per year. But you forget every year the salaries of NASA, DOD, FBI, CIA, Marines, Navy, Air Force, Army, Coast Guard, National Guard, and even the President as commander and chief of the armed forces would be a part of the expenses of a war. Not too mention the industries that contribute clothing, steel, weapons and just about every other piece of equipment it takes for a war. Or how about the college degrees that most officers have to obtain to become officers for that war? G.I. Bill? I mean if you can lump every social program in a category, I could lump even more legit expenses to a war. Nuclear war heads, airplane technology.... That is the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard and you would be hard pressed to find a Republican not up for election that would actually agree with you on that statement.

Fourth line... another ridiculous made up "fact". To begin you use the term liberals as interchangeable with Democrats, but Bush was known as a liberal Republican. I mean in all honesty liberal and conservative have no bearings in today's discussion of politics. A liberal is a John Locke, Second Treatise of Government, believe everyone is good kind of guy. While a conservative is a Thomas Hobbes, fear Leviathan, everyone is evil kind of guy. Today we have imperial president's that are essentially puppets to the game. Congress runs the show and the Supreme Court has a lot of powers as well. Right now Congress is the majority Republican, which switched over halfway through Obama's term. Bush had a Republican majority for almost six of his eight years of his terms. So in 12 years the majority of Congress has been Republican for 7 going on 8 of them and Democrat for 4. Bush's tenure absolutely multiplied the national debt and bankrupted the country with his sense of entitlement to 'war powers' to a war he started based off lies. Bush is the one who has created this sense of entitlement and allowed for the nation to go to the government for handouts. But I jest on this point because we are entitled to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness (us crazy liberals), this statement should include Health because it is based of Locke's 'crazy liberal' pamphlet.

Fifth line... claiming that the current leader has anything to do with taking the helm of a sinking ship. Killed innovation, caused rich versus poor and black versus white by just batting an eye. First, innovation is alive and well, ever hear of an iphone? Netflix? Youtube? Twitter? Little robots that can heal your heart? Secondly rich versus poor and black versus white have pretty much been around for our country's entire history. Again another complete exaggerated fabrication.

Sixth line and whatever else... propaganda? You wish people would vote how they feel? They don't? Plus the Obama birth certificate thing is such a petty thing. I mean number one any person that can become the United States president as a 'foreigner' has more appeal to me than some Skull and Bones Texan, who never even owned a ranch until his presidency and had about 6 bankrupted companies, even with all his daddy's oil money. Or the fact that he skipped his tour in Vietnam. Oh yeah and did I mention the Bush family and the Bin Laden family are basically business partners? Plus having a questionable citizenship and getting a blow job in the oral office are by far no worse than abusing your executive authority to spy on people, aka Patriot Act and Watergate, which are directly in violation of the constitution. Or how about killing off the only Democratic political family that you have to worry about in politics as the head of the CIA? I mean let's throw out a true conspiracy with the birth certificate. Bush, Nixon, Hunt and many other benefiting big R's were in Dallas that day. I think that's the equivalent to a piece of paper that could have been forged.

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Both sides are fucking stupid. /discussion
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I wish people would just shuttup and vote how they feel. And remember this is how you voted.

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So you're going to believe a pamphlet over a government certified birth certificate?

The editors even admitted that it was a mistake. All of this still has nothing to with this discussion.
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So you're going to believe a pamphlet over a government certified birth certificate?

The editors even admitted that it was a mistake. All of this still has nothing to with this discussion.
Its a typical right-wing move - distraction. Distract people from the actual topic with something you deem 'outrageous,' and they're more likely to forget about the actual subject and side with you.
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Its a typical right-wing move - distraction. Distract people from the actual topic with something you deem 'outrageous,' and they're more likely to forget about the actual subject and side with you.
Which is one of many reasons why Obama will be reelected and it won't even be close. At the same time the Democrats and anti-Republicans are stretching it when they bring up things like some gay kid that Romney bullied in high school.
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People make predictions, and with enough time, some of them will prove true. It scares me, though, with how many different scenarios have played out in the time frame I predicted. . . and I'm not a politically oriented individual.
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Which is one of many reasons why Obama will be reelected and it won't even be close. At the same time the Democrats and anti-Republicans are stretching it when they bring up things like some gay kid that Romney bullied in high school.
You're correct. All the Republican party had to do was find a moderate-conservative candidate, without a horrible checkered past, that could speak eloquently and show a united front. The Republicans could easily win this election if they had done this.
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You're correct. All the Republican party had to do was find a moderate-conservative candidate, without a horrible checkered past, that could speak eloquently and show a united front. The Republicans could easily win this election if they had done this.
A moderate conservative would still probably be rejected by the Tea Party and the ultra conservatives who are still complaining about abortions.
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