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Old 05-22-2012, 06:09 PM   #101 (permalink)
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In regards to the Tea Party, you're referencing isolated incidents. I've seen Tea Party rallies before and they've never been out of control nor violent. But since we're talking about isolated incidents, here are a few of the isolated incidents at Occupy rallies.

- 3 NATO Protestes tried to make Molotov Cocktails.

- Chants of "Kill the Police".

- Defacing Public Landmarks with threatening messages.

Yeah, spray painting "Only the blood of the rich will stop Occupy" is really peaceful.

Do you really believe that Plain Jane Christian Woman would be equally or more likely to be investigated using the Patriot Act? If so, I wish I could live in that dream world.

I never referenced Trayvon Martin. I would never reference that case based on all the twists/turns in the case. I can reference the response to Hurricane Katrina, though. Especially the areas which have actually been given funding to rebuild.

While California may be labelled a "liberal" state, it actually has a very large conservative population. While they may not be registered Republican voters, there is a large conservative population. Prop 8 showed just how large that population was. That graph shows that nearly all "red" states have a ban on same-sex marriage, while most of the states with same-sex marriage/unions are "blue" states. Not sure the point of posting the graph.

The U.S. public education system has been in a downturn for decades. On America’s latest exams (the National Assessment of Educational Progress), one-third or fewer of eighth-grade students were proficient in math, science, or reading. Our high-school graduation rate continues to hover just shy of 70 percent, according to a 2010 report by the Editorial Projects in Education Research Center. The World Economic Forum ranks us 48th in math and science education. On international math tests, the United States is near the bottom of industrialized countries. Who are "the Liberals" that are always referred to, anyway? I'm curious. I hear this term thrown around all the time, but never can get an explanation of who exactly it refers to.

If you really believed that statements like "Eat the Rich" or "Only the blood of the rich will stop Occupy" are on par with shouting racial slurs and stating that party members should attack specific people and their families, I would be shocked. This would mean that every musician, especially ones like Jello Biafra (Dead Kennedys) or Anti-Flag, who made a statement akin to "Eat the Rich" were absolutely serious and intended to incite widespread violence.
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Old 05-22-2012, 06:26 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Does the occupy movement even have any leaders?
That was kind of my point. The Occupy movement is people, not a group led by someone or a band of people. If you would like to read on someone who you could call an organizer of the original Occupy movement: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...-10262011.html
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Old 05-22-2012, 06:35 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Do you really believe that Plain Jane Christian Woman would be equally or more likely to be investigated using the Patriot Act? If so, I wish I could live in that dream world.

I never referenced Trayvon Martin. I would never reference that case based on all the twists/turns in the case. I can reference the response to Hurricane Katrina, though. Especially the areas which have actually been given funding to rebuild.

While California may be labelled a "liberal" state, it actually has a very large conservative population. While they may not be registered Republican voters, there is a large conservative population. Prop 8 showed just how large that population was. That graph shows that nearly all "red" states have a ban on same-sex marriage, while most of the states with same-sex marriage/unions are "blue" states. Not sure the point of posting the graph.

The U.S. public education system has been in a downturn for decades. On America’s latest exams (the National Assessment of Educational Progress), one-third or fewer of eighth-grade students were proficient in math, science, or reading. Our high-school graduation rate continues to hover just shy of 70 percent, according to a 2010 report by the Editorial Projects in Education Research Center. The World Economic Forum ranks us 48th in math and science education. On international math tests, the United States is near the bottom of industrialized countries. Who are "the Liberals" that are always referred to, anyway? I'm curious. I hear this term thrown around all the time, but never can get an explanation of who exactly it refers to.

If you really believed that statements like "Eat the Rich" or "Only the blood of the rich will stop Occupy" are on par with shouting racial slurs and stating that party members should attack specific people and their families, I would be shocked. This would mean that every musician, especially ones like Jello Biafra (Dead Kennedys) or Anti-Flag, who made a statement akin to "Eat the Rich" were absolutely serious and intended to incite widespread violence.
Of course not, though a Plain Jane Christian Women isn't likely to be a potential terrorist either. However, the fact still remains that the Patriot Act affects every American. Also, Barack Obama reauthorized it as well so the blame doesn't just fall on the Republicans.

Yes, the Hurricane Katrina rebuilding process was botched by George W. Bush but to say that their is a War on African Americans because of that doesn't hold water. If you mentioned the War on Drugs then you might have a case since that does unfairly target minorities (although that probably wasn't the original intention of it but I digress).

I'll agree that most of the hardcore Liberal states have ratified gay marriage but some other hardcore Liberal states have shot it down. Hell, it was the African Americans and Latinos (traditional Liberals) who made the difference in California when it came to gay marriage. Other states that went for Obama in 2008 the last election oppose it as well such as North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, and Oregon.

The Public Education system in America is piss poor and I'm sure many people will agree with you on that. If anything though, it is the government's involvement and unions that are preventing the system from getting better. You can't fire a teacher who sucks at their job, you can only transfer them to another school in the system. Education should be left up to the states since the states know what is good for their state when it comes to education better than the federal government does.

And writing threatening messages like "Only the blood of the rich will stop Occupy" are worse than slurs.
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Of course not, though a Plain Jane Christian Women isn't likely to be a potential terrorist either. However, the fact still remains that the Patriot Act affects every American. Also, Barack Obama reauthorized it as well so the blame doesn't just fall on the Republicans.

Yes, the Hurricane Katrina rebuilding process was botched by George W. Bush but to say that their is a War on African Americans because of that doesn't hold water. If you mentioned the War on Drugs then you might have a case since that does unfairly target minorities (although that probably wasn't the original intention of it but I digress).

I'll agree that most of the hardcore Liberal states have ratified gay marriage but some other hardcore Liberal states have shot it down. Hell, it was the African Americans and Latinos (traditional Liberals) who made the difference in California when it came to gay marriage. Other states that went for Obama in 2008 the last election oppose it as well such as North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, and Oregon.

The Public Education system in America is piss poor and I'm sure many people will agree with you on that. If anything though, it is the government's involvement and unions that are preventing the system from getting better. You can't fire a teacher who sucks at their job, you can only transfer them to another school in the system. Education should be left up to the states since the states know what is good for their state when it comes to education better than the federal government does.

And writing threatening messages like "Only the blood of the rich will stop Occupy" are worse than slurs.
How exactly is a Christian woman less likely to be a terrorist than a Muslim? Christians have been "terrorists" just as long as Muslims. Crusades, Inquisitions - recent times, Oklahoma City Bombing, bombings of abortion clinics, etc.

It was one example out of many. The "War on Drugs" is a good example as well.

While African-Americans and Latinos are typically Democratic voters, liberal is incorrect. African-Americans and Latinos are historically, from a political sense, anti-gay.

If you truly believe "Only the blood of the rich will stop Occupy" is worse than a racial slur, I would ask which you would rather say to an African-American person: "Only the blood of the rich will stop Occupy" or the "N-Word." Racial slurs have centuries of violence, degredation and humiliation behind them. Statements against the rich do not.
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How exactly is a Christian woman less likely to be a terrorist than a Muslim? Christians have been "terrorists" just as long as Muslims. Crusades, Inquisitions - recent times, Oklahoma City Bombing, bombings of abortion clinics, etc.

It was one example out of many. The "War on Drugs" is a good example as well.

While African-Americans and Latinos are typically Democratic voters, liberal is incorrect. African-Americans and Latinos are historically, from a political sense, anti-gay.

If you truly believe "Only the blood of the rich will stop Occupy" is worse than a racial slur, I would ask which you would rather say to an African-American person: "Only the blood of the rich will stop Occupy" or the "N-Word." Racial slurs have centuries of violence, degredation and humility behind them. Statements against the rich do not.
I'm talking about in terms of a Muslim terrorist, which is who the federal government were after after 9/11 and were the ones behind 9/11 in the first place. I'm aware of Christian terrorists but the chances of a "Plain Jane Christian Woman" being a secret Jihadist (who the federal government were looking for) are slim to none.

Ok, so I worded it wrong but I assume you knew what I meant. It was the typical Democratic voters who played a large role in shooting down gay marriage in California and it wasn't all Republicans. Same goes for gay marriage not being ratified in other states that are otherwise Democratic. It isn't just the Republicans who are against it.

It isn't just a statement against the rich. It is a threat against the lives of every rich person in the United States. There is really no other way to interpret that. Don't get me wrong, racial slurs are ignorant things to say and are uttered to ignorant people but they still aren't threats of murder. That is why I say that the statement of "Only the blood of the rich can stop Occupy" is worse than the slurs the Tea Party uttered. Both are bad, but I don't see the Tea Party saying that "Only the blood of the Democrats or Minorities will stop the Tea Party".
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"Plane Jane Christian Women" who blow up abortion clinics are prosecuted just the same, and you can bet the FBI monitors them in areas of hotbed for those activities in the South.
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I'm talking about in terms of a Muslim terrorist, which is who the federal government were after after 9/11 and were the ones behind 9/11 in the first place. I'm aware of Christian terrorists but the chances of a "Plain Jane Christian Woman" being a secret Jihadist (who the federal government were looking for) are slim to none.

Ok, so I worded it wrong but I assume you knew what I meant. It was the typical Democratic voters who played a large role in shooting down gay marriage in California and it wasn't all Republicans. Same goes for gay marriage not being ratified in other states that are otherwise Democratic. It isn't just the Republicans who are against it.

It isn't just a statement against the rich. It is a threat against the lives of every rich person in the United States. There is really no other way to interpret that. Don't get me wrong, racial slurs are ignorant things to say and are uttered to ignorant people but they still aren't threats of murder. That is why I say that the statement of "Only the blood of the rich can stop Occupy" is worse than the slurs the Tea Party uttered. Both are bad, but I don't see the Tea Party saying that "Only the blood of the Democrats or Minorities will stop the Tea Party".


Colleen LaRose aka Jihad Jane/Fatima LaRose, American citizen charged with terrorism-related crimes, including conspiracy to commit murder and providing material support to terrorists. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colleen_LaRose



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According to Pew Research, about 60 percent of Democrats now support gay marriage rights. That’s up from about 50 percent in 2008, when neither Mr. Obama nor his two main opponents, Hillary Rodham Clinton and John Edwards, endorsed it outright.
Do you really believe that every single person that says something like "blood of the rich" really is saying that they are going to kill all rich Americans? Since racial slurs aren't threats of murder, just stated when those who were called the slurs were being murdered, they're not as bad?
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I don't agree with killing them off, but yeah Republicans are the worst and I would expect someone European to feel exactly as you do.

I grew up in a 'Republican' town, had 'Republican' parents and let me tell you it is not a picnic. The term Republican is interchangeable with several other terms. Abusive, racist, hypocritical are some of them. The problem over here is that somehow the people don't make the connection between this party and Nazi fascism.

I mean Hitler burned down the Reichstag in 33' to fuel hatred for the Jews and spread propaganda. Now whether 9/11 was intentional or not the Bush administration blatantly attempted to do this to the Muslim faith. If America, had its way it would have happened too.

The worst examples of Republicans are Nixon and Reagan though. Nixon actually had a staff that endorsed 'diabolical schemes' to destroy the Democrats and a special project called Gemstones. Each gemstone such as Emerald, Ruby and Pearl had a different scheme. One of which turned out to be 'Watergate' another scheme though was to get the Democrats on a cruise ship and pay for whores to sleep with them and then tell their wives, to spark scandal during elections. Yet another was to sabotage the national headquarters in Arizona's air conditioning for the convention and 'sweat' the effects of the gathering out so to speak.

Reagan was just a figurehead president that everyone loved for some reason while he pretty much did nothing but cause this economic collapse we have now with "laissez faire" economics and 'Good Morning America' royal puppetry introduced to the presidency.

The one good event from Nixon was when he fought the Supreme Court to a loss, by trying to argue that his executive power enhanced during the Vietnam War, allowed him to commit Watergate. Of course he lost. That didn't stop President George W. Bush to use this executive wartime authority to instill the Patriot Act though and start a war that destroyed the economy completely after Clinton had amazingly restored it.

Now Obama has failed to accomplish much because the Republicans took over Congress and John Boehner is completely denying Obama to accomplish anything, even Republican policies. Meanwhile, Putin is now the Russian president who is entirely corrupt and needs to be removed and we are at a stand still because all these Republican idiots over here, want to continue driving their SUV's and hating black people.
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This wig wearing piece of ass meat was a senator for 50+ years. A Democratic Senator at that

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The democrats love to play the race card, and it seems you're no different. Learn about your own party first before making horrible assumptions. The Civil Rights Act if 1964 is another one of note.
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The Democrats of the 50s aren't the Democrats of today. Thank LBJ and the Civil Rights movement for that.

All the Dixiecrats and Southern Democrats moved in the social Republican wing afterwards.

Sen. Byrd is still a piece of shit, thought, no matter what.
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The Democrats of the 50s aren't the Democrats of today. Thank LBJ and the Civil Rights movement for that.

All the Dixiecrats and Southern Democrats moved in the social Republican wing afterwards.

Sen. Byrd is still a piece of shit, thought, no matter what.
Some of the 60's Democrats are not. The point is that you can find bigoted comments on both sides. This "It's only the Republicans!" is just bullshit the left continues to push down uninformed people's throats, hoping they can pass off their personal opinions as facts if they say it enough. I could pull up quotes from Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson hating on Jews as well. Perhaps they don't count though?

I see people mentioning the Tea Party, but no mention of the Occupy people plotting to blow up bridges and such. Strange, do not recall the Tea Party doing anything like that. Those same Occupy people were also responsible for some rapes and drug transactions at their protests. Interesting.
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