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Explain these wars please.



Liberals have Occupy. 10x worse than the Tea Party in terms of being dangerous.



So much ignorance in this post here.



Yet that agency asked the writers to provide their own biography. All that the pamphlet shows is that Obama is a liar.

Libertarian is the way to go, by the way.
Explain Wars

Women: Anti-Contraception Bill, South Dakota Republicans proposed a bill that could make it legal to murder a doctor who provides abortion care, Republicans have a bill that would let hospitals allow a woman to die rather than perform an abortion necessary to save her life, cut all federal funding from Planned Parenthood health centers.

Mexicans: Giant fence along Mexican border, Numerous CBP involved shootings/deaths on the border, Anti-Immigration Bills.

Muslims: The Patriot Act, Insisting that Obama is a Muslim and how that would be a terrible thing, TSA.

Blacks: Really, do I have to say anything on this subject?

Gays: NC and several other red states ban gay marriage.

Atheists: Attempting to "put God back into" everything.

The Poor: Cutting funding to public education, Voting against free healthcare.

Scientists: Pushing Creationism in public schools, cutting funding to previously federally funded science programs

Enviromentalists: Have you looked at the EPA lately?

Internet: CISPA, NDAA, SOPA.

"Liberals Have Occupy"

While at a Tea Party event on February 27, 2009, a photo was taken of TeaParty.org owner Dale Robertson with a sign that said "Congress = Slaveowner, Taxpayer = .....r".

On March 20, 2010, during a rally at the United States Capitol in Washington, D.C., before the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Bill was voted on, several black lawmakers said that demonstrators shouted racial epithets at them. Congressman Emanuel Cleaver was spat upon, although it is unclear if this was deliberate, and said he heard the slurs. Congressman Barney Frank, who is gay, was called a "......". Representative André Carson said that while walking with John Lewis and his chief of staff from the Cannon building, amid chants of "kill the bill", he heard the "n-word at least 15 times".

March 21, 2010, Springboro, Ohio, Tea Party founder Sonny Thomas posted a racist comment on the Springboro Tea Party Twitter page he managed by tweeting "Illegals everywhere today! So many spicks makes me feel like a speck. Grrr. Wheres my gun!?"

Tea Party Express leader Mark Williams referred to Allah as a "Monkey God". When questioned by The Washington Post about his comments about Islam, Williams stated the controversy has "been fantastic for the movement".

The final round of debate before voting on the health care bill was marked with vandalism and widespread threats of violence to at least ten Democratic lawmakers across the country.

On March 22, 2010, in what the New York Times called "potentially the most dangerous of many acts of violence and threats against supporters of the bill," a Lynchburg, Virginia Tea Party organizer and the Danville, Virginia Tea Party Chairman both posted the home address of Representative Tom Perriello's brother (mistakenly believing it was the Congressman's address) on their websites, and encouraged readers to "drop by" to express their anger against Representative Perriello's vote in favor of the healthcare bill. The following day, a severed gas line was discovered in Perriello's brother's yard that connected to a propane grill on the home's screened-in porch.

July 2010, the North Iowa Tea Party (NITP) posted a billboard comparing Obama to Adolf Hitler and Vladimir Lenin.

Tea Party sounds pretty dangerous to me. I haven't heard of any Occupy protestors attempting to blow up politicians' or their family's homes. I have heard of Occupy protestors being pepper sprayed en mass, arrested without warrant, beaten by police batons, run over by police vans, and much more.

DHS Releases More Documents on Occupy to PCJF: http://www.justiceonline.org/comment...documents.html
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That's the stupid "corporate media false equivalency" bullshit that too many people who are oblivious to what's going on around fall for every single time. The Tea Party was looking to replace the moderate/centrist Republican party to the social extreme and fiscally damaging they have become now. Occupy was to just address the income inequality and corporate money being influence by government and politics, on both sides of the aisle.
The problem with Occupy is it has no idea what it's own fucking goals are. Most of the people involved are level headed enough and I agree with the principles behind it, but I got spam e-mail from a wrestling forum no less after some /b/tard hacked an admin account and used it to send out e-mails professing to be representative of the Occupy movement and the 99% calling for the government to cancel all debt. As well, on Facebook there was a "Faces of the 99%" thing with lots of "touching stories". Some of them were legitimately moving, most of them were along the lines of "I can't find a job with my degree, plz help" or "I might have to do a job I don't like because I can't get a job in a field that I love." And my absolute favorite, "I live with my parents, work full time, am single, don't go to school and have no children, but for some reason I can't afford for my employer to take thirty dollars a month out of my paycheck for benefits". At some level, a lot of them are just whiny college kids with entitlement issues.

Also vamp1ro, there has been a lot of riot violence/arson incited by some of the Occupy protestors. Not all, obviously, just like not all Tea Partiers are responsible for what you describe above. Just keep that in mind, don't generalize.

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I agree. Occupy, as of now, should be making a grassroots effort to be supporting candidates that they believe can "change Washington". Occupying banks and parks are not going to be enough and won't be enough to keep the momentum going (which they have lost since last Fall). Occupy needs a clear and to the point message that they universally agree on. They should also not allow the Democrats in congress (especially the corporatist/blue dog/democrats in name only) take over their movement because if so then they will become the default equivalence to the Tea Party. They need to be their own identity and make the political process shake and quiver in their kneecaps.

Obama is winning this election, period. But Obama can learn alot from Occupy.
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Also vamp1ro, there has been a lot of riot violence/arson incited by some of the Occupy protestors. Not all, obviously, just like not all Tea Partiers are responsible for what you describe above. Just keep that in mind, don't generalize.
Yes, riot violence and arson has occurred during the Occupy protests. What you haven't seen is leaders of the movement making blatantly racist or statements promoting attacks against certain people. I agree that not all Tea Party members are irresponsible or terrible people, just misinformed.
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Explain Wars

Women: Anti-Contraception Bill, South Dakota Republicans proposed a bill that could make it legal to murder a doctor who provides abortion care, Republicans have a bill that would let hospitals allow a woman to die rather than perform an abortion necessary to save her life, cut all federal funding from Planned Parenthood health centers.

This is the only one where you might have a valid case but even then, it is a select few who are radical enough to propose these type of laws. Do they personally agree with contraception? No, but the vast majority aren't trying to ban contraception.

Mexicans: Giant fence along Mexican border, Numerous CBP involved shootings/deaths on the border, Anti-Immigration Bills.

[b]Putting up a fence isn't a war on Mexicans. It's stopping illegal immigration in a nation that is already getting overpopulated. Give me an example of a CBP shooting that wasn't provoked by a person trying to enter the United States illegally. The Anti-Immigration bill that Arizona passed is entirely constitutional.

Muslims: The Patriot Act, Insisting that Obama is a Muslim and how that would be a terrible thing, TSA.

The Patriot Act targets all Americans, not just Muslims. The insisting that Obama is a Muslim comes from the extreme right and most Americans wouldn't support a Muslim President, not just Republicans. The TSA is, once again, against all citizens and not just Muslims.

Blacks: Really, do I have to say anything on this subject?

Don't reference Trayvon Martin here. That isn't an example of a War on African Americans at all. This isn't the 1950s anymore and the Jim Crow laws were abolished decades ago. Don't even try to say that there is a War on African Americans.

Gays: NC and several other red states ban gay marriage.

It isn't just red states. California shot it down and they're one of the most Liberal states out there. Look at this graph. Those aren't all "Republican" states that banned Same Sex Marriage.

Atheists: Attempting to "put God back into" everything.

That isn't a war.

The Poor: Cutting funding to public education, Voting against free healthcare.

The Public Education system is still going strong (at least where I am). They're voting against it for valid reasons, not just to be jerks (although the Liberals would love for you to believe this though). The individual mandate is entirely unconstitutional and THIS isn't a problem at all either.

Scientists: Pushing Creationism in public schools, cutting funding to previously federally funded science programs

Evolution is still taught in public schools and I've personally never been taught Creationism and I went to a public school in a Conservative area. Even then, that isn't a war on Science.

Enviromentalists: Have you looked at the EPA lately?

Once again, public schools in my area are still pushing "going green" and such. There is no war on Environmentalists.

Internet: CISPA, NDAA, SOPA.

Obama signed the NDAA into law so don't go blaming the Republicans for all of it. But yeah, I'll give you SOPA and CISPA but that is something that effects everyone, not just a select group of people.

"Liberals Have Occupy"

While at a Tea Party event on February 27, 2009, a photo was taken of TeaParty.org owner Dale Robertson with a sign that said "Congress = Slaveowner, Taxpayer = .....r".

On March 20, 2010, during a rally at the United States Capitol in Washington, D.C., before the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Bill was voted on, several black lawmakers said that demonstrators shouted racial epithets at them. Congressman Emanuel Cleaver was spat upon, although it is unclear if this was deliberate, and said he heard the slurs. Congressman Barney Frank, who is gay, was called a "......". Representative André Carson said that while walking with John Lewis and his chief of staff from the Cannon building, amid chants of "kill the bill", he heard the "n-word at least 15 times".

March 21, 2010, Springboro, Ohio, Tea Party founder Sonny Thomas posted a racist comment on the Springboro Tea Party Twitter page he managed by tweeting "Illegals everywhere today! So many spicks makes me feel like a speck. Grrr. Wheres my gun!?"

Tea Party Express leader Mark Williams referred to Allah as a "Monkey God". When questioned by The Washington Post about his comments about Islam, Williams stated the controversy has "been fantastic for the movement".

The final round of debate before voting on the health care bill was marked with vandalism and widespread threats of violence to at least ten Democratic lawmakers across the country.

On March 22, 2010, in what the New York Times called "potentially the most dangerous of many acts of violence and threats against supporters of the bill," a Lynchburg, Virginia Tea Party organizer and the Danville, Virginia Tea Party Chairman both posted the home address of Representative Tom Perriello's brother (mistakenly believing it was the Congressman's address) on their websites, and encouraged readers to "drop by" to express their anger against Representative Perriello's vote in favor of the healthcare bill. The following day, a severed gas line was discovered in Perriello's brother's yard that connected to a propane grill on the home's screened-in porch.

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July 2010, the North Iowa Tea Party (NITP) posted a billboard comparing Obama to Adolf Hitler and Vladimir Lenin.

Tea Party sounds pretty dangerous to me. I haven't heard of any Occupy protestors attempting to blow up politicians' or their family's homes. I have heard of Occupy protestors being pepper sprayed en mass, arrested without warrant, beaten by police batons, run over by police vans, and much more.

DHS Releases More Documents on Occupy to PCJF: http://www.justiceonline.org/comment...documents.html
In regards to the Tea Party, you're referencing isolated incidents. I've seen Tea Party rallies before and they've never been out of control nor violent. But since we're talking about isolated incidents, here are a few of the isolated incidents at Occupy rallies.

- 3 NATO Protestes tried to make Molotov Cocktails.

- Chants of "Kill the Police".

- Defacing Public Landmarks with threatening messages.

Yeah, spray painting "Only the blood of the rich will stop Occupy" is really peaceful.
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Yeah, those Black Bloc portions of the Occupy movement who were in it for themselves rather than the message, thus trying to ruin Occupy's credibility.

As for the Tea Party: "Get your government hands off my Medicare." Enough said.
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Yes, riot violence and arson has occurred during the Occupy protests. What you haven't seen is leaders of the movement making blatantly racist or statements promoting attacks against certain people. I agree that not all Tea Party members are irresponsible or terrible people, just misinformed.
Does the occupy movement even have any leaders?
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Occupy doesn't necessarily need a leader, they just need a message to lead them to where they want to be.

I will give the Tea Party this one iota of credit and that was to put their people in the Congress, no matter how wacko and irrational they were, they swept the House in 2010 and almost got the Senate had Harry Reid almost lost to Sharron fucking Angle in Nevada.
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