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Old 01-17-2012, 08:08 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I am going to vote for Obama again, it is not his fault that some of the parties denied some of his request that might of helped us out.
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Old 01-17-2012, 08:52 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Well obviously only guy that is not corrupted to the corre like the rest of those politicians out there (puppets) is Ron Paul.

The only guy who is actually anti war (or so I hear). The last thing the world needs is more bullying.

If I was American myself I would vote for the guy hands down.

Obama will just make continue to do what he's done. it's not like he has any real power.
Ron Paul is so anti-war that he made an ass out of himself last night in the debate, going so far as to say we shouldn't have whacked Bin Laden. He also has always been against going into Afghanistan to start with (which was more justified than Iraq) and believes that Iran with a nuclear weapon is not a threat.

Trust me, as an American I don't want to be a bully. But I also believe in peace through strength and Obama's going around the world apologizing for us, then turning around and trying to kiss the ass of our enemies while blowing off our allies doesn't hold much water with me.
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Old 01-17-2012, 10:06 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Ron Paul is so anti-war that he made an ass out of himself last night in the debate, going so far as to say we shouldn't have whacked Bin Laden. He also has always been against going into Afghanistan to start with (which was more justified than Iraq) and believes that Iran with a nuclear weapon is not a threat.

Trust me, as an American I don't want to be a bully. But I also believe in peace through strength and Obama's going around the world apologizing for us, then turning around and trying to kiss the ass of our enemies while blowing off our allies doesn't hold much water with me.
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Bin Laden was working for CIA. Besides he was dead years ago before they announced it.

War on Terror was never justified to begin with since you can't win a war on a tactic.

It's like trying to win wars against ambushes or stealth or formation A, B, C and so on. It's like trying to win a war against air. It's ludicrous.

Iran is really not a threat unless U.S wants it to be. It's not like Iran is threatening U.S in any shape or form. Same went for Iraq and Afghanistan but it didn't stop them from invading now did it?

It was just the right place to be around and be in charge of oil and drugs. Nothing more. Just a massive power grab.

Peace through strength? Well U.S is currently the biggest military power in the world. No one in the right mind would ever declare war on U.S. It has no real enemies ever since Soviet Russia fell. So now they invented a few of their own to keep the war machine going. War On terror which defies logic is one of them.
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Old 01-17-2012, 10:10 AM   #54 (permalink)
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No I'm not a mormon but just because I'm not one does not mean I'm better than mormons or they are worse than me in any capacity.
Well obviously they're not worse than you in particular, but they're worse than me.

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Old 01-17-2012, 10:20 AM   #56 (permalink)
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So why are you superior to mormons again?
Why don't you just read back and remind yourself? Repeating myself is beginning to get tiresome.
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Old 01-17-2012, 10:22 AM   #57 (permalink)
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I don't know about any good choices, but I'll vote for whoever the Republican is. I'm sick and tired of this food stamp president trying to turn America into something it's not and promoting socialist policies. That he personally is of bad character (Won't salute the flag, is muslim but doesn't admit it) worsens things, but of course I'll probably be called "racist" for not liking him.
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Old 01-17-2012, 10:54 AM   #58 (permalink)
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You keep talking about Obama and other politicians, like that shit matters. They're just names. Presidents are just puppets. No matter who you choose, shit will be the same. It's always like that. You keep saying "Obama changed this, Ombama didn't change that...", I mean WTF? Obama is a nobody. He's just a public figure ruled by much powerful forces, just like any president was. Republicans, Democrats - they're owned by same people, banks and companies, and I'm not talking about some generic companies you hear about everyday, I'm talking about financial juggernauts of world power.
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Why don't you just read back and remind yourself? Repeating myself is beginning to get tiresome.
I did read it and I didn't think that was a real answer so I had to ask again.



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You keep talking about Obama and other politicians, like that shit matters. They're just names. Presidents are just puppets. No matter who you choose, shit will be the same. It's always like that. You keep saying "Obama changed this, Ombama didn't change that...", I mean WTF? Obama is a nobody. He's just a public figure ruled by much powerful forces, just like any president was. Republicans, Democrats - they're owned by same people, banks and companies, and I'm not talking about some generic companies you hear about everyday, I'm talking about financial juggernauts of world power.
I have to agree with you here. Presidents are only puppets.

The last real president of US was actually Kennedy and we all know that he was assassinated.

Global elitist and financial juggernauts are really the power behind all these puppets. What's presented to people is nothing more but a false paradigm of choice.
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Old 01-17-2012, 11:34 AM   #60 (permalink)
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come into a politics thread, something i guess of semi intelligence (i don't forget where i am) and P.Smith has derailed the topic into a needless argument about something he knows little but more about than politics just to try and seem smart.
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