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Old 05-19-2011, 03:25 AM   #251 (permalink)
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Amongst educated fight/pro wrestling fans Lesnar's toughness was never in question. But when Cain clean tags you a few times, you go down, whether you're Brock Lesnar or anyone. If Cain blasts Junior Dos Santos he will go down too. Of course I don't expect JDS to come into a fight like a fucking bull and leave his chin out.
Actually, Lesnar's toughness is called into question and with good reason. He turtles up when he gets hit, he shies away from strikes, basically as soon as he gets tagged he turns from a wrestling powerhouse to trying to find a way out. The ability to take a punch has nothing to do with toughness. Liddell can't take a punch, but without Dana in his ear telling him to retire he'd be out there fighting still. Thats tough (and stupid but thats another issue)
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:42 AM   #252 (permalink)
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Rush, I really don't know much about MMA, but wouldn't that stem from lack of defensive technique and conversely lack of offensive technique?

edit: From a striking standpoint that is.
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:43 AM   #253 (permalink)
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Can a man be afraid and still be brave, Brek?
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:44 AM   #254 (permalink)
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A part of me would like to see Liddell fight guys like Moussasi and Henderson, if he didn't have his easy job for the UFC, I think those fights would have been possible.

Lesnar is still green in MMA, what he has going for him is his phenomenal wrestling and his size. I agree that he can take his fair share of damage, he just doesn't know how to fight on the defensive. What he needs to work on is fighting off his back, something he probably never works on.
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Can a man be afraid and still be brave, Brek?
That's the only time a man can be brave.
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Rush, I really don't know much about MMA, but wouldn't that stem from lack of defensive technique and conversely lack of offensive technique?

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Yes.
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