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Old 04-09-2011, 06:43 PM   #81 (permalink)
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With the greatest respect - it seems idiotic to ask whether he has anything else to say on the matter in the same post that you state you are not going to read his previous post.

Read and respond. Ignore the "juvenile banter".

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Rice can't be that "menial" if your ass is eating Uncle Ben's every night.
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You must not have noticed.
A mod specifically requested that talk of black history in the USA be started in another thread.
It had nothing to do with your juvenile banter.
Doesn't matter.

You said that you wouldn't respond to such "juvenile banter" as you called it, but yet you felt SO compelled to start this thread b/c the mod told us we could not continue that convo in the previous thread. If you really meant that statement, this thread wouldn't even be in existence.

So, so far, we know that you're a liar.


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You are like a little bitch, you have to start everything you say with wise ass comments.
You don't know that you'd laugh in my face, my feeling is you would have problems even making eye contact, much less instigate a fight.
Nice, the name calling continues. Real maturity there, bro. That's usually what people do when they can't make a substantial point. I laugh at ignorance - which you have spewed plenty of in this thread. So yes, I would laugh in your face if you said the things you've said to me to my face. Who said anything about instigating a fight? Not me. If me laughing in your face would make you so upset that you would feel so compelled to fight, that's you that lacks self-control and maturity, not me.

I, plus many others in this thread (one of which whom has studied African-American History at length, and me, who studies African-American Literature) have proven that blacks had a major hand in helping to build this country. No need to repeat ourselves.

How about you:

a) prove that anyone could've done what blacks did to help build this country
b) be an adult and stop calling names like a child...

...unless, that is what you really are. Then it would be understandable.

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You must not have noticed.
A mod specifically requested that talk of black history in the USA be started in another thread.
It had nothing to do with your juvenile banter.




See, you kill any possible credibility you may have with shit like that, I'm not even going to read a word of what you have to say after that, much less respond.
You are like a little bitch, you have to start everything you say with wise ass comments.
You don't know that you'd laugh in my face, my feeling is you would have problems even making eye contact, much less instigate a fight.

Now, if you want to try again as an adult, which I am assuming you are, maybe not ,,, Lets try to keep this condensed, civil and to the point.
You said that "black slaves built America.
Do you still stand by that ?
Do you have anything else to reinforce this contention, other than they allegedly brought rice growing knowledge to the USA, and engaged in piracy ?

edit: unavoidably noticed your last sentence - So predictable.
I knew it was a matter of time before all the great black invention myths were spun out - First and foremost, the traffic light.
Of course !
Next, peanut butter, the door knob, ice cream scoops and refrigerators.
Heard your spin all too many times before, and stand ready to demolish anything you'd care to copy & paste.


In early 1922, African-American inventor Garrett Augustus Morgan designed a cross-shaped traffic signal, for which he submitted a patent application on February 27 of that year. The patent which was not even among the first 50 traffic signal patents issued in the United States was granted on November 20, 1923. For whatever reason, numerous writers and public figures have credited Morgan with inventing any or all of the following:

* world's first traffic signal
* first traffic signal to earn a patent
* first automatic traffic signal
* first traffic signal with a third "all-directional stop" phase
* first signal with a yellow light phase
* the basis for modern traffic signal systems

None of these claims are even remotely true, as rest of this page shows.

Some notable early signals, prior to Morgan's 1922 invention
London, 1868
1868 London signal, designed by J.P. Knight

The first known signal device for regulating street traffic was installed in 1868 in London, at the intersection of George and Bridge Streets near the Houses of Parliament. Designed by railroad signal engineer JP Knight, it had two semaphore arms which, when extended horizontally, meant "stop"; and when drooped at a 45-degree angle, meant "caution." At night, red and green gas lights accompanied the "stop" and "caution" positions (Sessions 1971; Mueller 1970).

By the signal "caution", all persons in charge of vehicles and horses are warned to pass over the crossing with care and due regard to the safety of foot passengers. The signal "stop" will only be displayed when it is necessary that vehicles and horses shall be actually stopped on each side of the crossing, to allow the passage of persons on foot; notice being thus given to all persons in charge of vehicles and horses to stop clear of the crossing.

Proclamation of Richard Mayne, London Police Commissioner, in 1868; quoted in Mueller 1970


Salt Lake City, about 1912

A contender for "inventor of the first electric traffic light" is Lester Wire of Salt Lake City (Sessions 1971).

Mr. Wire, who died in 1958, was a Salt Lake police officer who invented the first electric traffic light in 1912.... The first hand-made model was a wooden box with a slanted roof so rain and snow would fall off. The lights were colored with red and green dye and shone through circular openings. The box was mounted on a pole, and the wires were attached to the overhead trolley and light wires. It was operated by a policeman. In ensuing years, Mr. Wire improved upon the first model.

"Peak Named for Inventor," Deseret News (Salt Lake City), February 9, 1967

Cleveland, Ohio, 1914

On August 5, 1914, several years before Garrett Morgan invented his T-shaped semaphore-type signal, the American Traffic Signal Company installed red and green traffic lights at each corner of the intersection of 105th Street and Euclid Avenue in Cleveland (see this 1914 Motorist article documenting the debut of the lights).

The installation was patterned after the design of Cleveland inventor James Hoge (Sessions 1971; Mueller 1970), whose U.S. patent #1,251,666 describes a system of electrically powered stop-go indicators, each mounted on a corner post. In Hoge's design, the signals are wired to a manually operated switch housed inside a control booth, and are electrically interlocked in such a way as to make conflicting signals impossible. Also described in the patent is a system to allow communication between the signal controller and the police and fire departments. The Cleveland installation incorporated all of the above elements in some form or other, plus a bell to warn the drivers of color changes.

William Potts' 4-way, red-yellow-green signals, Detroit, 1920

In October and December of 1920, a Detroit policeman named William Potts constructed several red-yellow-green light signal systems. Some lights were mounted atop "traffic towers" manned by policemen; others were overhead suspension lamps remarkably similar in form to a modern traffic light. The 4-direction traffic lamp pictured below is of the latter type, and is on display at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Michigan.

An entry in the museum's artifact database describes the item:

The world's first three-color, four-direction, elec. traffic lamp, was installed at the intersection of Woodward Ave. and Fort Street, Detroit, Michigan in October, 1920. It was designed by Superintendent (then inspector) William L. Potts of the Signal Bureau, Detroit Police Department. Basic design remains practically unchanged today. The signal remained in use until 1924 and became a part of the world's first synchronized signal system. This system extended from Jefferson to Adams on Woodward Avenue and was controlled manually from a tower at Woodward and Michigan.

museum archives, Henry Ford Museum & Greenfield Village (as of Jan 29 2003)

The meanings of the colored lights were essentially the same as today. Green meant "go"; red meant "stop"; and yellow (amber) meant "clear the intersection" (Mueller 1970). An analogous color scheme had been used by the railroads, where as early as 1899, the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad introduced a system wherein red, yellow, and green meant "stop", "caution", and "all clear" respectively (Brignano 1981).

For more about Potts and his signals, read this 1947 Motor News article entitled "Mr. Trafficlight".
New York City, early 1920s

In New York City, Dr. John F. Harriss, Special Deputy Police Commissioner in charge of traffic control, organized a system of red, yellow, and green lights to control traffic along Fifth Avenue. The idea reached the experimental stages as early as February 1920 (New York Times, Feb 06 1920). By March of that year, the colored lights were in service ("The Traffic Lights," New York Times, Mar 15 1920).

By January 1922, an interconnected matrix of traffic lights was expanding throughout Manhattan:

Dr. John F. Harriss, Special Deputy Police Commissioner, began experimenting yesterday with powerful signal lights which will be installed from week to week until traffic in most of Manhattan will be simultaneously stopped and started by red, green and yellow lights all operated by a single switch in Times Square.

"To Rule All Traffic from Times Square", New York Times, Jan 05 1922, p.1

The original New York traffic towers were not true four-direction signals like the lights in Detroit. Instead of simultaneously shining different colors in perpendicular directions, the Manhattan signals shone only one color at a time: red for north-south movement (main avenues), yellow for all traffic to stop, and green for east-west movement (side streets). Stationed at each tower was a traffic officer to enforce the signals.



Invention ? Really ? Really ???
At best, an imitation of an already long established and constructed device.
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I certainly don't have a minor in African American history (or a major, for that matter) and I don't doubt your knowledge in the area but could you please provide some evidence that African slaves "hid" their intelligence from their captures or/and masters?

My 'people' have a history of slavery too. But if someone told me that the Irish slaves had to "hid" their intelligence from Cromwell and his minions I'd call bullshit.
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Bad analogy, for more than one reason.
* I have been working heavy construction for years, there are damn near 0 blacks involved in actual designing or construction.
Thats today, I seriously doubt if the % was any higher years ago.
* I don't accept plantation work as "building".
Do you ?
Keep an eye on the OP and title of this thread.
This post mostly proves that you don't understand an analogy.

I was saying that the slaves were the work force of the south and the rich whites were the ones that told them what to do. The "building" was the entire south. The slaves were the construction workers. The slave owners were the ones that designed the building.

Now stop being a troll, or go back to being a dumbass racist. And you can tell your sister/wife that I said that.
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Rice can't be that "menial" if your ass is eating Uncle Ben's every night.
I can't with this thread anymore. Smile and nod.
Not lol worthy, sorry.
You can't what with this thread, huh ?
Just unsubscribe, you've made your point - Which is, apparently, you have no point.


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Doesn't matter.

You said that you wouldn't respond to such "juvenile banter" as you called it, but yet you felt SO compelled to start this thread b/c the mod told us we could not continue that convo in the previous thread. If you really meant that statement, this thread wouldn't even be in existence.

So, so far, we know that you're a liar.
Who is "we" ?
Speak for yourself, if able.


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So yes, I would laugh in your face if you said the things you've said to me to my face. Who said anything about instigating a fight? Not me. If me laughing in your face would make you so upset that you would feel so compelled to fight, that's you that lacks self-control and maturity, not me.
I can tell you exactly what would happen if you laughed in my face, or any mans face.
I would say "What are you laughing at, boy ?"
You would say "Who are you calling boy ?"
I would say "You, mother fucker. What are you going to do about it, boy? "
At that point, you would have the choice of taking a swing, or backing down like a little bitch.
You don't need to back up your mouth on an internet forum, as you already know.
In real life, you do.
You'll get the taste slapped out of your mouth you try running it like that in person.

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I, plus many others in this thread (one of which whom has studied African-American History at length, and me, who studies African-American Literature) have proven that blacks had a major hand in helping to build this country. No need to repeat ourselves.

How about you:

a) prove that anyone could've done what blacks did to help build this country
Yeah gee, just what the hell would we have done without imported Africans to pick our crops, hmmm ??
Surely everyone would have quickly figured out, theres no use in living without blacks to pick our cotton, and the whole population would have committed spontaneous suicide to get it over with !
The indians would have their land back - And you would be sitting in a hut of mud in Kenya, wondering who or what you should kill to get a meal.

At least you are making a little progress, by regressing to "helped build this country" instead of "built it".
If you would have said that in the 1st place, this thread wouldn't have been started.
Kunta Kinte would be mad at you for backing down from evil whitey like that !
As a black guy, you should know that "Blacks never be wrong, it be all raycist n shit to say dey are".


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This post mostly proves that you don't understand an analogy.
No doubt your understanding of all things anal is far superior to mine !
Doesn't change the fact that you used a piss poor analogy.

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Why is everyone still bothering to continue this argument with him? He has it set in his mind that black people didn't help in the creation of America that much. Pointless to try and change his mind.
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I can tell you exactly what would happen if you laughed in my face, or any mans face.
I would say "What are you laughing at, boy ?"
You would say "Who are you calling boy ?"
I would say "You, mother fucker. What are you going to do about it, boy? "
At that point, you would have the choice of taking a swing, or backing down like a little bitch.
You don't need to back up your mouth on an internet forum, as you already know.
In real life, you do.

You'll get the taste slapped out of your mouth you try running it like that in person.
Oh, the cruel irony of that statement.

Everything I've said on this forum, I'll say straight to your face.

However, I would love, in fact, I would pay good money, to see you say some of the things you've said in this thread in a room full of blacks.

Good luck making it out of that room alive.



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Yeah gee, just what the hell would we have done without imported Africans to pick our crops, hmmm ??
Surely everyone would have quickly figured out, theres no use in living without blacks to pick our cotton, and the whole population would have committed spontaneous suicide to get it over with !
The indians would have their land back - And you would be sitting in a hut of mud in Kenya, wondering who or what you should kill to get a meal.
So, that's your sarcastic way of saying the presence of my ancestors wasn't necessary. Cool.

So tell me, oh wise one, if their presence wasn't necessary, why in the world did they waste so much time getting my ancestors on the boat and transporting them here?

I can't wait to hear this Limbau....uh...I mean Hannit....uh...I mean Xray.

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