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Old 06-22-2010, 10:13 PM   #21 (permalink)
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What LadyCroft and other said about corporate farming is true.

Watch this video, and more of the documentary if you's want to. I used to think vegetarians were retarded, but I will someday become a vegetarian.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ1LhU6mG5s

Edit- This part is more disturbing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INDNd...eature=related

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Old 06-22-2010, 10:32 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Yeah that's Food Inc.

It's an expertly crafted documentary that will open some eyes.

There's also a badass that is a highly successful anti-corporate farmer in that documentary. He's a throwback to the way things should be done.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:48 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Yeah there is nothing a vegetarian or video about horrible farms is gonna do to stop me from eating meat. I know it is inhumane the way some of the places treat cattle, but it is too damn delicious. But seriously this day in age with the number of people on this planet, meat is being produced not farmed. When you have a product you need to produce it as cheap as possible, and instead of being innovative or use a humane thought process there are going to be those who take short cuts and screw these animals.

Back on topic, any vegetarian who uses the pain argument is a retard, cause i'm sure the seal being thown around like a rag doll by orcas feels totally cool with it.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:56 PM   #24 (permalink)
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There are a lot of cooperation/slaughterhouses or whatever you wanna call them that treat animals like complete garbage.

There ARE a lot of animals that die in agonizing pain and are treated like total shit before they're killed. Just look it up. If you think that all animals are fed properly and given somewhat decent living condition then stop lying to yourself.

That being said, there are a lot of places out there that kill the animal in a humane fashion. But I'm pointing out that places like KFC and Mcdonalds kill so many every day in disturbing ways etc etc

By the way, I'm not a vegetarian. However I'm not a frequent meat eater either.

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Okay here it is, most Vegetarians argument when it comes to their diet, is that it's okay to kill plants because they can't feel pain, well in that case, isn't that the same as saying it's okay to kill a kid with congenital insensitivity, because they can't feel either.
Are you comparing a plant to a actual human being? Sounds almost like an attempt at trolling vegetarians.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:59 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I'm glad for the most part this has sparked a debate, because I actually thought I was going to get flamed for my question. I know not all vegetarians use this reason, but some do, they say it is about doing the least damage, so they kill things that can't feel pain, so I just wanted to see if anyone agreed about my whole congenital insensitivity thought.
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Old 06-22-2010, 11:05 PM   #26 (permalink)
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As for as that little argument goes. I dont know how they think it however. Here's a reason, "Ethics"

It's unethical to kill a human and eat them. Not to mention it could potentially lead to prison time.
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Old 06-22-2010, 11:11 PM   #27 (permalink)
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As for as that little argument goes. I dont know how they think it however. Here's a reason, "Ethics"

It's unethical to kill a human and eat them. Not to mention it could potentially lead to prison time.
Ethics are subjective, yeah, technically it's against the law, like weed is even though alcohol isn't, but really, at the core, they're both the same thing, killing something that can't feel pain.
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Vegetarians have always confused me, I got nothing against them chosing that way of life it's just I don't quite understand their motives or thinking.

They want to stop animal killings by not buying their meat however that isn't going to do anything, in a whole the animals will kill each other and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Feel free to explain and correct me if I am wrong.

On a side note I cannot understand vegans, man they piss me off. They won't eat anything that comes from an animal cause they think it's cruelty, like what do they have against having Cheeze or Milk or something like that... :nonono:

Anyway... I can picture the episode of the simpsons, "you don't make friends with salad..."
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Old 06-22-2010, 11:15 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Vegetarians have always confused me, I got nothing against them chosing that way of life it's just I don't quite understand their motives or thinking.

They want to stop animal killings by not buying their meat however that isn't going to do anything, in a whole the animals will kill each other and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Feel free to explain and correct me if I am wrong.
Mass killing of the animals. Not to mention torturous is the difference. I used to think the same way. Watch the videos
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This is not the case with corporate farms, which are the vast majority of farms in the US. Farm life for animals on corporate farms are nothing but stress filled lives. It's not all green pastures and good grazing. That takes up too much land and costs too much money.

Well it doesn't really but it cuts into profits.
I think it actually does cost more money to raise the animals like you would see on a farming show then what you see in a peta commerical, or at least it cost more to buy the food they produce.
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