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Old 03-07-2009, 06:39 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Nolo King finds that people who disagree with abortion are hypocrites!

Giving birth is murder because it is guaranteed the birth of that child will result in their death!

Not just a philosophical way of looking at it, but a factual way so let people choose what they want to do with their baby because they baby is dying sometime soon, lawls!
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Old 03-07-2009, 10:11 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Nolo King finds that people who disagree with abortion are hypocrites!

Giving birth is murder because it is guaranteed the birth of that child will result in their death!

Not just a philosophical way of looking at it, but a factual way so let people choose what they want to do with their baby because they baby is dying sometime soon, lawls!
My mind just exploded.

I see abortion as selfish. The woman doesn't want to have the baby because of what it will do to her life. So in return the baby doesn't get a chance at life.
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Old 03-07-2009, 10:48 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I am pro-life, and think abortion is morally wrong.

The first thing pro-life advocates state is rape. But look at the facts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortio..._United_States

In 2000, cases of rape or incest accounted for 1% of abortions

The reasons for people choosing to undergo an abortion are:

* 25.5% Want to postpone childbearing
* 21.3% Cannot afford a baby
* 14.1% Has relationship problem or partner does not want pregnancy
* 12.2% Too young; parent(s) or other(s) object to pregnancy
* 10.8% Having a child will disrupt education or job
* 7.9% Want no (more) children
* 3.3% Risk to fetal health
* 2.8% Risk to maternal health
* 2.1% Other

Right away, the facts show that abortion is grossly exploited because of carelessness. People cannot practice self-control and have to cater to their bestial impulses. Teenagers have sex, get pregnant, and then use abortion to compensate for their mistake. Rape and risk to maternal/fetal health are rarely the reason for an abortion; yet, it's always brought up to defend the brutal and immoral procedure.

If a woman gets pregnant by accident, then there is adoption which is a far better alternative. A child who gets adopted may go through some difficulties because of it. But despite anything, I'm sure he'll be happy to be alive and that his mother didn't abort him.

What I suggest it that abortion be illegal, except in rare cases of rape, incest, or when the mother's life is in danger. As for how to determine if a girl actually got raped, I think we just take their word on it. I don't believe a wave of females lying about getting raped will emerge as a result of this. No self-respecting female will lie about something so serious in order to have an abortion.

Abortion is sickening and making it illegal except in cases of rape, incest, or fetal/maternal health would be best. For the last eight years, we had a pro-life president, and the number of abortions have kept going down. If it makes people think twice before having sex when they don't want a child, then all the better.
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Old 03-07-2009, 11:13 PM   #44 (permalink)
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* 25.5% Want to postpone childbearing
* 21.3% Cannot afford a baby
* 14.1% Has relationship problem or partner does not want pregnancy
* 12.2% Too young; parent(s) or other(s) object to pregnancy
* 10.8% Having a child will disrupt education or job
* 7.9% Want no (more) children
* 3.3% Risk to fetal health
* 2.8% Risk to maternal health
* 2.1% Other
Yes but you have to ask, how old was the fetus when these abortions took place? Most abortions happen in 8 weeks or less according to the same wiki page. And orphans aka unwanted children are fucked up kids, sorry to say. I've read some really sad stories of unwanted children.
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Old 03-08-2009, 07:28 PM   #45 (permalink)
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My mind just exploded.

I see abortion as selfish. The woman doesn't want to have the baby because of what it will do to her life. So in return the baby doesn't get a chance at life.
Nolo King does not agree with bringing life to this world!

It is one of the most selfish thing a woman can do!

No one really enjoys their life, they simply go through the motions yet they want to put a child through that hell, lawls!
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Old 03-08-2009, 07:47 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I enjoy life
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Nolo King does not agree with bringing life to this world!

It is one of the most selfish thing a woman can do!

No one really enjoys their life, they simply go through the motions yet they want to put a child through that hell, lawls!
God why didn't your mother have the same mindset as you?
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Old 03-09-2009, 08:05 AM   #48 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure I enjoy my life.
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Love abortions. Had one just yesterday. Purely out of lazyness. I just kept watching, when Team 3D was on air.

Seriously, thinking in "potential" is stupid. If that's the argumentation, you would have to make babies all the time, regardless of you love the mother or care for it (the baby). And that would be really terrible.

Also, a baby within the first weeks is not fully developed. The mother on the other hand takes risks and a huge physical harm by bringing a baby into the world. So you have absolutely no fucking right to force it upon her. If you still do, you are a self-righteous, disrespectful piece of shit and should fall on you knees and beg your god for mercy for your fucking soul.
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Old 03-10-2009, 02:13 AM   #50 (permalink)
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So, what are your thoughts on legalizing cocaine and heroin?
As stupid as it sounds, he's right.

Say they were both illegal. You want heroin? You go to some back alley and buy from guy who's shady as hell. You wan an abortion? You go to some back alley and get it from some guy who's shady as hell. You get some heroin and you have absolutely no idea what's in it or what it's laced with and you get some syringe that could be riddled with aids. You go to get an abortion and this guy pulls out some coat hanger that could be riddled with aids.

Both legal? For your abortion you go to a hospital, the best equipment is used and it's used by a guy that knows exactly what he's doing. You go to some place to buy heroin, there's a guy there that knows exactly what to give you, eliminating the possibility of OD'ing, which for the most part is the only immediate danger with drugs. He gives you pure heroin using the best equipment, you get your high, and you're good. Oh, and the country can make a shit ton of money.

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I was showing the ridiculously flawed logic of "y has 'potential' to be x, therefore y IS x" arguments to you. I merely replaced Y with caterpillar and X with butterfly. You can also replace Y with seed and X with full tree to see how flawed it is.

It had nothing to with "comparing a larvae to a baby" and everything to do with pointing out the invalid logical form.
First, you don't go to prison for killing butterflys or trees. Second, as a counter example to calling that poster's logic "ridiculously flawed, I don't know where you're from, but in America the bald eagle is an endangered species and it's illegal to hunt or kill them. It is also illegal to take bald eagle eggs. Why? Because "y has 'potential' to be x."


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The words pro-choice and pro-life are utter bullshit, everyone here is both pro-life and pro-choice, so lets get that out of the way.
This. For that example Rajah posted, I sure wouldn't tell that girl she can't have an abortion. But on the other side, all those statistics %%%%%2 posted show most abortions are for bullshit reasons. There's no reason those people can't give up their kids for adoption. I realize carrying around a child for nine months is a slight inconveinence, but if you're not ready for that inconveinence, keep your legs closed. Everyone knows condoms and the pill aren't 100%, so don't fuck if you're not ready for the shit that can come with it.

The same applys to guys, if you're not ready to pay child support, keep your dick in your pants. And on the other side all you guys who are for abortion, imagine you knock a girl up and you want to keep the kid. Maybe you got a decent amount of money saved up and you want to keep it, some bitch you accidentally knocked up when you were drunk gets to decide whether or not your future son lives, depending on if she feels like carrying him for nine months? That's some bullshit.
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