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Old 02-27-2009, 12:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'd say they're too completely different things. A legal abortion is not harmful to the woman, and does not affect anyone else. However, cocaine and heroin kill, and often affect those around the addict also. While I don't care if one person wants to take the drug, when that starts negatively affecting families, then it becomes a problem. The difference between abortion and legalisation of drugs are vast.
Your main reason was that "people will do it anyway, and it's safer if it's legal." Legalizing coke and heroin would make it safer for the users, and also take money out of drug cartels. Cocaine and heroin kill, but abortion doesn't?
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Old 02-27-2009, 12:08 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I like bringing this up and getting women really pissed off...

Abortion is legal, and I'm not going to go against that. However, I think it is somewhat irresponsible today when there are other birth control measures (condoms, pill, surgical procedures like vasectomies) available. I'd much rather drop $10 on a pack of jimmies.
Unfortunately, you have overlooked sexual assault. It happens, and generally the guy isn't too concerned with wearing a rubber.

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I agree it's irresponsible, especially those who take no prcautions at all. I'm on the pill, and make sure to use condoms every time I have sex, it's basic to me. However, contraception fails, and people forget. Interestingly, the people most likely to have an abortion are those in their late 20s to early 30s, as opposed to teenage girls, who many people like to speak negatively about in terms of abortion.
I have a friend who got pregnant when she was 14. She was on the pill, they used a condom, but she still got pregnant. If it weren't for abortions she wouldn't be in high school right now. She'd be at home raising a baby.

Pro-Choice.
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Old 02-27-2009, 12:23 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I was going to see Pro-life excpect for rape but HBK-aholic showed me why not. Although it depends one the person, i personally think your should not have an abortion but put the baby up for adoption. The baby will have a much better life and you can move on with yours just the same as you would if you had an abortion apart from you would lead 9 months of your life differently so that you can give someone else life. However its hard to choose if your never in that position so i say Abortion only in special cases, like way to young or very ill ect Abortion because you just don't want a baby or you don't have enough money is Imo wrong.
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Pro-Choice with much, much stricter rules.
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Old 02-27-2009, 12:28 PM   #14 (permalink)
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She shouldn't be having sex at 14. Sure she said she was using the proper equipment, but then again she could just be using that as an excuse as to why she had an abortion.

I honestly think abortions are used as an easy escape for SOME women to dodge the kid bullet because of their lack of being careful. I know a couple of gals who have had abortions just cause they were careless well doing the deed. Yes im pro choice but I think the girls should rethink their actions if it keeps happening.
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She shouldn't be having sex at 14. Sure she said she was using the proper equipment, but then again she could just be using that as an excuse as to why she had an abortion.

I honestly think abortions are used as an easy escape for SOME women to dodge the kid bullet because of their lack of being careful. I know a couple of gals who have had abortions just cause they were careless well doing the deed. Yes im pro choice but I think the girls should rethink their actions if it keeps happening.
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Old 02-27-2009, 12:42 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Your main reason was that "people will do it anyway, and it's safer if it's legal."
But how can we ever make cocaine/heroin safe? Abortion can be done safely when it's legal. Cocaine and heroin will still have the same affects.

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Legalizing coke and heroin would make it safer for the users, and also take money out of drug cartels.
Legalising it will not make it safer, because drugs aren't 'safe' anyway. There isn't a safe way to take heroin and be okay.

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Cocaine and heroin kill, but abortion doesn't?
Arguable. While abortion technically 'kills' the fetus, it doesn't kill any living human, which is more important.

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I was going to see Pro-life excpect for rape but HBK-aholic showed me why not. Although it depends one the person, i personally think your should not have an abortion but put the baby up for adoption. The baby will have a much better life and you can move on with yours just the same as you would if you had an abortion apart from you would lead 9 months of your life differently so that you can give someone else life. However its hard to choose if your never in that position so i say Abortion only in special cases, like way to young or very ill ect Abortion because you just don't want a baby or you don't have enough money is Imo wrong.
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Pro-Choice with much, much stricter rules.
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Old 02-27-2009, 12:52 PM   #17 (permalink)
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She shouldn't be having sex at 14. Sure she said she was using the proper equipment, but then again she could just be using that as an excuse as to why she had an abortion.

I honestly think abortions are used as an easy escape for SOME women to dodge the kid bullet because of their lack of being careful. I know a couple of gals who have had abortions just cause they were careless well doing the deed. Yes im pro choice but I think the girls should rethink their actions if it keeps happening.
I'm not going to judge somebody for having sex "too young". She was in love with the guy, and has been with him ever since. Does that make it any more justifiable? I don't know. That's up for you to decide. In my opinion, it does.

I do think that people need to understand the risks of having sex, and I do not think that they should have the mindset that they can just have careless sex and if they happen to get pregnant then they should get an abortion. Nobody should include abortions in their plans. It should be a final, drastic measure. In the instance I mentioned, both birth control and a condom were used. That's pretty responsible if you ask me.
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But how can we ever make cocaine/heroin safe? Abortion can be done safely when it's legal. Cocaine and heroin will still have the same affects.



Legalising it will not make it safer, because drugs aren't 'safe' anyway. There isn't a safe way to take heroin and be okay.

Arguable. While abortion technically 'kills' the fetus, it doesn't kill any living human, which is more important.
Cocaine/heroin can be safe and have had plenty of medical use throughout history. Morphine is essentially a more potent version of heroin used today. Cocaine/heroin isn't guaranteed to kill anybody, abortion is guaranteed to kill a fetus.

Cocaine/heroin would be safer if it was government regulated and you were guaranteed to get government grade stuff rather than the possibility of buying tainted/laced.

And let's not forget, people who want it will get it anyway and in doing so pump more money into the illegal drug trade, which most certainly causes deaths.
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But how can we ever make cocaine/heroin safe? Abortion can be done safely when it's legal. Cocaine and heroin will still have the same affects.

Legalising it will not make it safer, because drugs aren't 'safe' anyway. There isn't a safe way to take heroin and be okay.
That isnt strictly true.


A lot of the problems with drugs, and their effects that make them unsafe are because they are contaminated and filled with all kind's of shit by people who care little for the safety of people taking them.

If they were legal and distributed through proper regulated means, they would be a hell of lot safer, because those drugs in it's purest and clean form are much safer.


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