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**Smark** · 07-03-2008, 12:47 AM

So, does Cryme Tyme perpetuate racist stereotypes?

WillTheBloody · 07-03-2008, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SmZoc2

So, does Cryme Tyme perpetuate racist stereotypes?

You lost me.

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Of course they do. As a resident of "the ATL", I'll can tell you that it ain't inaccurate. Plus...a lot of it's pretty funny.

Oh, and thread-starter / blatant racist, all you did was word it poorly. You're not a racist, you accidentally pigeonholed Shelton Benjamin as a....ready for this doozy?....a "blackrobat". Just be careful in the future.

**CERB3RUS** · 07-03-2008, 03:43 AM

I don't think MJUWW is racist at all, but when white people use words like "black guy", it completely gets blown out of proportion. Black athletes are NOT COMMON IN WWE. It is no more offensive than saying Umaga is the best Samoan athlete in professional wrestling. All he was trying to say, was "Kofi took Shelton's spot". And he IS right about WWE wanting to pin the belt on an African American wrestler to help draw that demographic for ratings. It would be different if there were 20 black athletes on the roster, but there is really only like 5 or so....maybe a couple more. If 60% of WWE's audience was African American, they would prolly put the belt on more white athletes and Mexic...oops....Latino athletes to help with those demographics. MJUWW did not create this stereotype, he was just presenting his view from the perspective of WWE's creative team. And it was accurate. He didn't just post this in some random thread, go off-topic, and call out someone's race. But don't call him out on it, you should be throwing all this racial hate bullshit at WWE if you have such a fucking problem with it. This Hardy mark did not create the stereotype, he was simply REFERRING TO IT.

For example, if you have 9 black chickens and 1 white chicken; if you wanted to refer to the white chicken in particular, you would call it the "WHITE CHICKEN". You wouldn't say the smaller one, or the one with a big head, or the Caucasian American chicken... it's the fucking WHITE chicken! In a world of ethnic insecurity, it is deemed inappropriate not to identify people by color, even though it is the easiest way possible for any human being with vision WHEN THE ONE BEING REFERRED TO IS A MINORITY.

If there is one reason I don't say African American, is because IT'S TOO FUCKING LONNNNNNNNNNNNNNG. I would much rather just type "black" because it's quicker and means EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING THING. I'm not racist either, I think they're the scum of the Earth, but I also don't get offended when someone African American refers to a white basketball player as a "white boy". It's a fucking description. Big deal. They are about as common in the NBA as black wrestlers are in main stream professional wrestling. The same for cornerbacks in NFL, when was the last time you saw a white cornerback?

I'm not really even a friend of MJUWW either, but the way some of you are making him into a bigot because of THAT is completely asinine. It may have been worded a little poorly (as much of the posts in this thread are) but surely anyone with half a brain can tell he didn't mean it that way. If I see where he's coming from, but African Americanswill always be touchy about that kind of vocabulary. The media was still making a big deal about Tony Dungy being the first African American coach to win a Super Bowl only like a year and a half ago. It's still acceptable to single out the race in some ways apparently. Of course, if another African American singles out his own race the same way, there's never anything wrong with it of course. So calling MJUWW a racist because he's not African American is complete hypocrisy.

Sadly, I really think you all just attacked him so harshly because he's a Hardy mark. Real great bunch of people on this forum.

Edgehead9812 · 07-03-2008, 05:06 AM

Calling Shelton the gold standard is racist against his hair TBH.

**-TheEnigma-** · 07-03-2008, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cerberUS_222

I don't think MJUWW is racist at all, but when white people use words like "black guy", it completely gets blown out of proportion. Black athletes are NOT COMMON IN WWE. It is no more offensive than saying Umaga is the best Samoan athlete in professional wrestling. All he was trying to say, was "Kofi took Shelton's spot". And he IS right about WWE wanting to pin the belt on an African American wrestler to help draw that demographic for ratings. It would be different if there were 20 black athletes on the roster, but there is really only like 5 or so....maybe a couple more. If 60% of WWE's audience was African American, they would prolly put the belt on more white athletes and Mexic...oops....Latino athletes to help with those demographics. MJUWW did not create this stereotype, he was just presenting his view from the perspective of WWE's creative team. And it was accurate. He didn't just post this in some random thread, go off-topic, and call out someone's race. But don't call him out on it, you should be throwing all this racial hate bullshit at WWE if you have such a fucking problem with it. This Hardy mark did not create the stereotype, he was simply REFERRING TO IT.

For example, if you have 9 black chickens and 1 white chicken; if you wanted to refer to the white chicken in particular, you would call it the "WHITE CHICKEN". You wouldn't say the smaller one, or the one with a big head, or the Caucasian American chicken... it's the fucking WHITE chicken! In a world of ethnic insecurity, it is deemed inappropriate not to identify people by color, even though it is the easiest way possible for any human being with vision WHEN THE ONE BEING REFERRED TO IS A MINORITY.

If there is one reason I don't say African American, is because IT'S TOO FUCKING LONNNNNNNNNNNNNNG. I would much rather just type "black" because it's quicker and means EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING THING. I'm not racist either, I think they're the scum of the Earth, but I also don't get offended when someone African American refers to a white basketball player as a "white boy". It's a fucking description. Big deal. They are about as common in the NBA as black wrestlers are in main stream professional wrestling. The same for cornerbacks in NFL, when was the last time you saw a white cornerback?

I'm not really even a friend of MJUWW either, but the way some of you are making him into a bigot because of THAT is completely asinine. It may have been worded a little poorly (as much of the posts in this thread are) but surely anyone with half a brain can tell he didn't mean it that way. If I see where he's coming from, but African Americanswill always be touchy about that kind of vocabulary. The media was still making a big deal about Tony Dungy being the first African American coach to win a Super Bowl only like a year and a half ago. It's still acceptable to single out the race in some ways apparently. Of course, if another African American singles out his own race the same way, there's never anything wrong with it of course. So calling MJUWW a racist because he's not African American is complete hypocrisy.

Sadly, I really think you all just attacked him so harshly because he's a Hardy mark. Real great bunch of people on this forum.

Thank you, someone understands the point i made.

To be fair most people didnt attack me it was mainly 'itswhatido' who seems to be incapable of having a sensible argument or have the ability to grasp the concept of what is being said. He is somebody who was proberly having a little hissy fit because he hasnt been able to give me my daily red rep yet, because i said something bad about his man crush Randy Orton 6 months ago, i'm sure he is in the 'members pictures thread' right now boasting about what a real man he is because he has a new car, like he usually is, overcompensating for something anyone.

The other couple of people that attacked me seemed to be more interested in attacking me because i'm Jeff Hardy mark, despite me not once mentioning Jeff Hardy in my rant, and i dont think they actually read what i wrote, because the Shelton Benjamin part was just that a part of my rant, the actual point of my rant was about the ridiculous nature of poltical correctness, i guess some people didnt get that, just like they didnt get my point about Shelton Benjamin.

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

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Cryme Tyme being used in the last segment shows a greater emphasis on them, part of the company-wide effort to create African-American stars to rebuild the television audience in that demo. With Kingston and Cryme Tyme on Raw, it seems to indicate Ron Killings would be put on Smackdown, and the story is he’s been told he’s getting a top-level push, so we’ll see.

This is exactly where my point about Shelton Benjamin comes in, Kofi will be ahead of Shelton Benjamin in the effort of WWE to create new African-American stars, so if you dont like the fact that African-American wrestlers are being singled out and compared to each other blame the WWE policy, its not my policy.

This page explains political correctness perfectly

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness

green25814 · 07-03-2008, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SmZoc2

So, does Cryme Tyme perpetuate racist stereotypes?

Yes. Yes they do.

Theres nothing malicious behind it though, racial steriotypes are just an easy way to get over.

**♠ Undertaker ♠** · 07-03-2008, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cerberUS_222

I don't think MJUWW is racist at all, but when white people use words like "black guy", it completely gets blown out of proportion. Black athletes are NOT COMMON IN WWE. It is no more offensive than saying Umaga is the best Samoan athlete in professional wrestling. All he was trying to say, was "Kofi took Shelton's spot". And he IS right about WWE wanting to pin the belt on an African American wrestler to help draw that demographic for ratings. It would be different if there were 20 black athletes on the roster, but there is really only like 5 or so....maybe a couple more. If 60% of WWE's audience was African American, they would prolly put the belt on more white athletes and Mexic...oops....Latino athletes to help with those demographics. MJUWW did not create this stereotype, he was just presenting his view from the perspective of WWE's creative team. And it was accurate. He didn't just post this in some random thread, go off-topic, and call out someone's race. But don't call him out on it, you should be throwing all this racial hate bullshit at WWE if you have such a fucking problem with it. This Hardy mark did not create the stereotype, he was simply REFERRING TO IT.

For example, if you have 9 black chickens and 1 white chicken; if you wanted to refer to the white chicken in particular, you would call it the "WHITE CHICKEN". You wouldn't say the smaller one, or the one with a big head, or the Caucasian American chicken... it's the fucking WHITE chicken! In a world of ethnic insecurity, it is deemed inappropriate not to identify people by color, even though it is the easiest way possible for any human being with vision WHEN THE ONE BEING REFERRED TO IS A MINORITY.

If there is one reason I don't say African American, is because IT'S TOO FUCKING LONNNNNNNNNNNNNNG. I would much rather just type "black" because it's quicker and means EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING THING. I'm not racist either, I think they're the scum of the Earth, but I also don't get offended when someone African American refers to a white basketball player as a "white boy". It's a fucking description. Big deal. They are about as common in the NBA as black wrestlers are in main stream professional wrestling. The same for cornerbacks in NFL, when was the last time you saw a white cornerback?

I'm not really even a friend of MJUWW either, but the way some of you are making him into a bigot because of THAT is completely asinine. It may have been worded a little poorly (as much of the posts in this thread are) but surely anyone with half a brain can tell he didn't mean it that way. If I see where he's coming from, but African Americanswill always be touchy about that kind of vocabulary. The media was still making a big deal about Tony Dungy being the first African American coach to win a Super Bowl only like a year and a half ago. It's still acceptable to single out the race in some ways apparently. Of course, if another African American singles out his own race the same way, there's never anything wrong with it of course. So calling MJUWW a racist because he's not African American is complete hypocrisy.

Sadly, I really think you all just attacked him so harshly because he's a Hardy mark. Real great bunch of people on this forum.

Good post. Agreed. I would rep you but I've handed out too much rep in the past 24 hours. Again good post. Finally someone in this thread understands his point.

**GP_Punk** · 07-03-2008, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Enigma_Mjuww

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness

This is one is actually better:

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Politically_correct

the table of examples in particular is class-A comedy

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Dick Van Dyke -> Penis van Lesbian
"Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs" -> "Snow Caucasian And The Seven Vertically Challenged People"
Baa baa black sheep -> Baa baa coloured sheep

**Smark** · 07-03-2008, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by green25814

Yes. Yes they do.

Theres nothing malicious behind it though, racial steriotypes are just an easy way to get over.

That is my point. The WWE does this all the time (i.e. Cryme Tyme), yet you rarely hear people complain about that. It's because it is harmless.

...and LMAO at Penis van Lesbian.

**-TheEnigma-** · 07-03-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GP_Punk

This is one is actually better:

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Politically_correct

the table of examples in particular is class-A comedy

Quote:

Bad - Morally Exotic
Men - Oppressor
Woman - Vaginal-Americans
Pimp-mobile - Culturally responsive transport
Homo - Hetero-sexually challanged
Midgets - Vertically challenged
Fat bastards - Horizontally excessive
Fat midget bastards - Bidimensionally challenged
Useless old people - Chronically Advanced
Bum - Financially Challenged
Retard - Specialist
Abortion - Near Life Experience

The best one

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Prostitute - Financially compensated reproductive organ stimulation assistant

Thats brilliant

I think this one explains it

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"I think political correctness has gone mad" - "I am a bigot"