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Old 12-21-2003, 03:02 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Blindfolds aren't hard to get hold of. They wanted them to suffer.
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Old 12-21-2003, 04:40 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I have no clue as to the point of your post, but a blindfold can easily come off. Hence why they were gasmasked.

I doubt they wanted them to suffer. They know the majority of them didn't want to serve Saddam.
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Old 12-21-2003, 05:32 PM   #53 (permalink)
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The point of my post is your bullshit about needing to be muffled bound blind folded and deafend was not fucking needed. You do make me giggle Angel.

You actually believing that was nessecary and humane is a joke.
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Old 12-21-2003, 05:46 PM   #54 (permalink)
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You're just mad because you can't make a convincing point that what they did was so wrong. Which is why you make personal attacks.

I'm not saying it nice. I mean it's war, but we should still be nice to the enemy right? I'm saying it's justified. Better that just blowing their brains out like the Iraqis would have.
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Old 12-21-2003, 06:10 PM   #55 (permalink)
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So your arguement is you could've killed them?
Wow, that makes it so much fucking better.

Eg: No no, hold on, this paedophile only fingered a kids ass, he didn't fuck it, so it's okay.

You have to be "nice" to the enemy as you put it, it's called the geneva convention. Rules to obey in war.

See here for proof. "Violation of International law" http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...262568-cp.html

This is cruelty, torture in mine and many others' eyes. How is my arguement floored? I have provided pictures, source arguement and backed it up with several peoples opinions and now press release.

Don't get me wrong, I'm loving your posts. You sound like a bitching 6 year old at school. Your whole arguement is centered on "HE DID IT FIRST!" or "HE WOULD'VE DONE THE SAME". Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Old 12-21-2003, 06:15 PM   #56 (permalink)
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You say they were the enemy and thus such treatment is justified yet you also say that they didn't want to serve Saddam. I'm sorry but if they didn't want to serve Saddam in the first place, i can hardly see them putting up much resistance after being captured. The actions taken during the transfers were totally unnecessary and i fail to see any form of humanity in what they actually did.

You say that a blindfold could easily slip off, that's a pretty shallow argument i'm affraid. I'm sure a highly trained troop would have the ability to fasten a blindfold properly. In any case, most of these POW's are unwilling soldiers. They've been invaded in their own homeland in a war which has been forced upon them. They're just normal men with families and ordinary lives, such extreme measures to restrain them are totally unnecessary. They're not terrorists.
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Old 12-21-2003, 06:30 PM   #57 (permalink)
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It's only wrong in your eyes because you hate George Bush. If it was Clinton, you'd be falling over yourself to support him. Secondly, if you think I'd bother to reference canadian news outfit, you can't even acknowledge the media bias.

Kliqster, duh! Of course they're not putting up resistance. It's not about how much they resist, it's security. They do it for the security of their people, as well as the Iraqis. If they weren't of much use to Saddam, and they don't resist, we can realease them.

Let me post this again, so people will read it. WE CAN RELEASE THEM!!!!.

If they don't know where they were, they can't lead anyone back to the base. Whether voluntarily, or not. That's the security issue. That is the justification. I hope you actually read this one as it's the third time I've said it and no one acknowledges it.

After this, I'm done with the issue. You are not objective people. So I should have never bothered in doing this. I could never convince you of otherwise. I'm tired of the super left fringe of the internet.
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Old 12-21-2003, 06:39 PM   #58 (permalink)
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I don't give a fuck who did it Angel. Clinton or not, it doesn't matter. Wrong is wrong.

Discrediting the Canadian news? Coming from someone in America? Oh man. You have no grounds to be standing on for commenting on biased news broadcastin.
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Old 12-21-2003, 07:06 PM   #59 (permalink)
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On the subject of news, you're right. We have an institutionalized libveral bias in the majority of our media.

The elite media is left wing as is the majoirty of the newspapers.

Talk Radio is also mostly to the right with few independents, libertarians, and liberals.

Fox News, while you must differentiate between news shows on there and opinion shows, i.e. Fox News Live and Hannity and Colmes, respectively.

The actual news reporting done by Fox News is as objective as you could expect to be possible, not completely objective, but much better than the others.
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Old 12-21-2003, 08:20 PM   #60 (permalink)
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anyone ever heard the expression that the first casualty of war is the truth? there aint a single news source be it a paper, radio or tv station that is not biased. as for the treatment of POW's, everytime i feel sympathy for those who fought for saddam and bin laden and their treatment i force myself to remember the images of september 11th, and the images of the gassed kurds in northern iraq. the world isn't a nice place and if people are going to start bombing our civilians then they deserve what they get. so what if the captured troops didn't want to serve saddam, they had a choice, not a very good choice but they still had a choice and now those that survived have to live with the consequences. finally, if people truly think that america went to iraq for the oil they might want to work out just how much it costs to keep several carrier battle groups in the persian gulf as well as several hundred aircraft and many thousands of men and women, for the past 12 years, then work out how much money the US would get from the oil, somehow i dont think the books will balance... thats my little rant finished.
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