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Old 07-17-2006, 12:16 AM   #71 (permalink)
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You said that people were disrespecting their heritage by dating outside their race. Wouldn't that be the same thing, only worded differently? Isn't that basically saying "date inside your race or you're trash?" (not that harsh but hopefully you get the point ^_^)
I said that I would consider it disrespectful, yes. Disrespectful to my heritage to date outside of my own race. I then proceeded to say that your business is your own, not mine. So to answer your question, no it's not the same thing.

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If you came out and just said "I am not attracted to other races" than I wouldn't have a problem with it because, to be honest, I am not attracted to black men. I don't have anything against them, I just simply don't have an attraction to them. I do have a problem with people who think races should stick to their own and I do have a problem with someone generalizing people.
I did say that, perhaps not in the first post but the idea of it was there. Even after I stated it was based on personal preference (which I would think would be obvious since it's my opinion and therefore based on my personal preferences) you still called it a racist view and said that it was disrespectful to you.
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This issue isn't about myself or who I am dating. I only brought it up because it has to do with your post. I am not making a point that I enjoy other races, I just happened to love a person who wasn't white. It's not as if I never liked a white person before. That's beside the point. I just didn't agree with all of what you said and I used my own example to just further my own point.
Very true. It is not about you or who you choose to date. The debate itself though started from a post that directly contradicted my opinion and presented itself with a perfect oppurtunity to have an intelligent conversation. Considering what it was derived from, who you date is actually quite relevant to the conversation even if not directly what it is about.
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Old 07-17-2006, 12:16 AM   #72 (permalink)
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God, this is some university level arguments and I really skimmed through.

This is just my naive argument but pigment I think that the more interracial dating there is, then the faster this whole world will become just one culture and there won't be any more racism. With one culture, there won't be a chance for people to practice racism. I know racisim is still there and it's wrong to hide from racism by going to this solution, but at least people won't have the cause to practice it and the less fighting there is, the better.
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Old 07-17-2006, 12:17 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Do some research before you throw together a half-assed argument.

By definition, heritage is where you come from. The country of your origin.

Also by definition, culture is defined as a socially transmitted, generalized behavior. A basic pattern of beliefs and likes/dislikes that are generally shared by peoples of a specific heritage.
I'm an Indivualist. I don't look at things like most people look at. I'm a person of a different point of view. You could say I threw the argument together, but thats just me.

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Look at in terms of fish. is a catfish the same as a sword fish? No. They are both fish, yes but they are not the same "race" of fish. Is a Black person the same as a White person? No. They are both humans but they are not the same race.
Nope, I still don't see Race as a factor for all Sub-Races of Human Beings. The Human Race is a race of people, all common because of our defining cultures, our intelligence, and our evolution. The loose term of Race has been handed down, and I don't see it that way, so we're just going to have to compromise the situation at hand.

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The fact of the matter is this. I tell you not to say that race doesn't exist because it's a fact. It would be like saying John Cena doesn't exist. Race is there, and it's not waving it's hand in front of it's face saying "You can't see me".

My opinion that interracial dating and breeding is destroying racial identity is just that, an opinion. I've never claimed it as fact. Saying race doesn't exist isn't giving us your opinion, it's feigning ignorance when you know very well that race does exist.
What ignorance? In that I think differently? In that I don't follow the popular definition of what you call "Race" in its loose terms? As I've said before, its a corrupted term, Race, as well as Racism, have been so used in various situations and in conspicuous manners, those terms don't mean anything anymore.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree. I have a different way of thinking, and you can call me ignorant, or anything else, but thats the way I conclude my arguments. Call me what you will.
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Old 07-17-2006, 12:17 AM   #74 (permalink)
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I never said it was wrong for him to enjoy his own race but it's the way he looks at others who don't.
The way I look at others who don't is with complete respect for what they choose to do with their lives. I've said this many times already.
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You generalized. You didn't come out to me and say "Hey Jade, you are disrespecting your heritage because your man isn't white" but you made a general statement that people who date outside their race are infact disrespectful to their heritage.

It's your opinion, I got that point the first six times you said it, but I don't like to be generalized and I am sure others don't either.
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This is just my naive argument but pigment I think that the more interracial dating there is, then the faster this whole world will become just one culture and there won't be any more racism. With one culture, there won't be a chance for people to practice racism. I know racisim is still there and it's wrong to hide from racism by going to this solution, but at least people won't have the cause to practice it and the less fighting there is, the better.
The faster the world becomes one race, the faster we forget what made us who we are. I, for one, am damn proud of the contributions of White Europeans and, in fact, I love my White European culture (note: different from heritage).

I don't want to see a day when culture becomes non-existant. I am very well cultured and as a matter of personal preference, I think the differences in culture should be preserved.
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The faster the world becomes one race, the faster we forget what made us who we are. I, for one, am damn proud of the contributions of White Europeans and, in fact, I love my White European culture (note: different from heritage).

I don't want to see a day when culture becomes non-existant. I am very well cultured and as a matter of personal preference, I think the differences in culture should be preserved.
I agree wholeheartedly with the last paragraph. I can argue some of the first paragraph's statements, however. You're a very opinionated and well researched person, I'll give you that. Some things I say, don't make sense, but again, thats how I think.
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You generalized. You didn't come out to me and say "Hey Jade, you are disrespecting your heritage because your man isn't white" but you made a general statement that people who date outside their race are infact disrespectful to their heritage.

It's your opinion, I got that point the first six times you said it, but I don't like to be generalized and I am sure others don't either.
My post was ambiguous enough to be taken as literally or as loosely as you choose. Just like the horoscope in the daily newspaper, you can apply what it said to your life or you can consider it to be equivocal in the sense that it was said in passing and holds no weight in your decisions.
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Interracial dating is, in my opinion, causing a general decline in racial substance and shows a severe lack of respect for one's heritage. I have great honor in my White European heritage and would consider dating a Non-White to be disrespecting it.

That said, it's none of my business if someone chooses to do so.

I do, however, believe strongly that cultural purists are given a bad rep by people who are genuinely racist. It's because of people like that and their supremacist views that a person like myself can't boldly proclaim their pride in being white.
Wow...who's a moron?

Anyway, good for you Theo. I, too, cannot sit and watch stuff like that go on without getting in on it.

I remember this past Christmas Eve I was working in the electronics section at K-Mart. It was literally eblow-to-elbow back there, and I was the only person working in that section at the time. This lady turns to me (I guess she heard my keys) and says "where's your white music?"......At first I wasn't sure what to say, and I said "excuse me, ma'am?", and she said "where's the music for white people?"......that confirmed what I thought she'd meant. I said "ma'am, the music we have is for everybody" and then I turned to go the other way and help other people / leave that situation before it got worse.........didn't happen. She taps my shoulder while at the same time saying "hey!" (at the volumn and in the tone that awkwardly gets everyone within' 20 feets attention.) She, as loud and obnoxiously as she could, says to me "all you people sell in this store is ...... MUSIC!"........everyone, EVERYONE, was turned toward her after that with about 90% of the talking/sound stopped. My face was about a foot from hers, I pointed toward the front of the store and said "get the fuck out of here NOW!"...

Needless to say, and as embarrased as she was, she had the balls to file a complaint at the front on the way out...nothing was done to me for it.

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