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Old 07-16-2006, 11:14 PM   #51 (permalink)
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To Confederate. Atleast you don't sugar coat it. I'm black but I'm not lazy. People need to understand that color is not everything. I know my opinion is not fact. We can not progress if we don't learn to accept eachother's differences. But I'm afraid that as long as man is bound to his own humanity he is bound to be a fool. And racism, and discrimination will always exist. There is no future if the past is present.
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Old 07-16-2006, 11:14 PM   #52 (permalink)
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So, generally, you see a black person wearing a chain, talking in gibberish, you don't "generally" think they're lazy, rude, inconsiderate, etc.?

So, generally, when you see a hispanic person in dirty clothes, brown skin, you don't "generally" think they don't speak English?

Pigment, I respect you for giving me answers I wanted to hear.

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You state that I went around telling people that they are being disprespectful if they date outside of their race, which I did not. I stated that it was my opinion and even preceded that opinion with the phrase "in my opinion" to let everyone know that I was not speaking for the majority but only for myself.

You may not think it is disrespectful and maybe you didn't intend for it to come out like that but to some of us, it was disrespectful to say that.
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Old 07-16-2006, 11:17 PM   #54 (permalink)
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What is Skin Color? What is Racism? Ask yourselves these questions. It is not Skin Color that defines what you should be proud of, it should be your accomplishments and your achievements. By the way, Skin Color isn't culture. Skin Color is nothing more than the amount of Melanin you have in your genetic structure. There are two types, Pheomelanin, and Eumelanin. The former of which produces more of a lighter skin tone, and the latter which produces more of a dark skin tone. Educate yourselves, people. Skin Color is absolutely nothing to be proud of, Culture is more of a way of looking at it. However, you don't have to be malevolent in your opinions about Pride in your Race.

There is no such thing as a Race of People. Human Beings as a whole, is a Race. Generalizations of people based on their skin color has really corrupted the mind. There is Culture, and there is Ethnicity. One of the reasons why people are dark skinned is because the chemical in their body produce a protection against violent Sun Rays, which is why most Dark Skinned people reside in Hot places, and that is why the more light skinned people live up North, there isn't that much Sun, therefore there is really no need for protection. If you're going to be proud, be proud of you Culture, not your Skin Color, and its achievements. Be proud of your individual achievements as well.

I really don't care how you live your life, but remember Skin Color is nothing more than a shell that masks your true self.
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Old 07-16-2006, 11:18 PM   #55 (permalink)
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I like these questions so I will answer them as well.
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So, generally, you see a black person wearing a chain, talking in gibberish, you don't "generally" think they're lazy, rude, inconsiderate, etc.?
In terms of generalizations, yes, I do think they're lazy, rude, and inconsiderate. Should they come up to me, have a conversation, and prove me wrong, my respect they will have. You do have to consider that stereotypes became stereotypes because of a broad number of people of said ethnicity personify the stereotype. I am, however, not above admitting, even if only to myself, that I was wrong about a person.
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So, generally, when you see a hispanic person in dirty clothes, brown skin, you don't "generally" think they don't speak English?
Again, the same response applies here as to the above question. In terms of stereotypes, yes, I would assume they don't speak English. If the person were to prove an eloquent knowledge of the English language, I would respect them for having not only the courtesy to learn the language of what is now their country but also for having the capacity to apply themselves to learning it.
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Pigment, I respect you for giving me answers I wanted to hear.
Again, I appologize for overlooking it.
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Old 07-16-2006, 11:18 PM   #56 (permalink)
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There is just too much for me to say.

Generally, no, I don't like black people. Most of them where I live are lazy, rude, inconsiderate, etc. There are some black people that aren't that way and I have no problems with them. I have a high respect for that small percent.

Generally, no, I don't like hispanics, asians, and any other race or nationality. I go to a state university, and there are several people of different nationalities. I have no problem with them, unless they don't speak english. If you come to my country, learn to speak my freaking language. That's all I ask for now.

Until they freaking take over the country, and then I will ask them to leave.
So basicly,your saying EVERY black person is lazy, rude, and inconsiderate? Ever stop to think that there could be a HIGH percentage of black people who strive for success without having to 'shoot each other' and 'steal'? Also, ever think that SOME white people are lazy, rude and inconsiderate? So techinally, generally, you shouldn't like your own race, because white people are the same in some way; Mostly useless rednecks.

"In that small percent"? LMFAO.
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Old 07-16-2006, 11:20 PM   #57 (permalink)
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pretty much yea
Hahaha. No way. Admit it. Practically everyone is stereotypical. To me, there are no racists. Just stereotypical assholes who can't get past skin color. I'm not calling you anything, because many other blacks, mexicans, asians are the same way. We're all fucked up. Stereotypes suck, but God created 'em. Or, he created us.

EDIT: Wait, oh shit, I worded that wrong. Erase admit it and no way, loz.
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Old 07-16-2006, 11:28 PM   #58 (permalink)
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What is Skin Color? What is Racism? Ask yourselves these questions. It is not Skin Color that defines what you should be proud of, it should be your accomplishments and your achievements. By the way, Skin Color isn't culture. Skin Color is nothing more than the amount of Melanin you have in your genetic structure. There are two types, Pheomelanin, and Eumelanin. The former of which produces more of a lighter skin tone, and the latter which produces more of a dark skin tone. Educate yourselves, people. Skin Color is absolutely nothing to be proud of, Culture is more of a way of looking at it. However, you don't have to be malevolent in your opinions about Pride in your Race.
Educate yourself as well. Just because you can state the facts of how our bodies produce skin color doesn't mean it relates to the conversation at hand. A person's skin color relates directly to their heritage (Since we weren't discussing culture but rather heritage). If you want to prove me wrong and say skin color isn't directly influenced by cultural heritage, find me a study where the sample is larger than 1,000 that shows that, on average, people of 100% German descent are born with a Black skin tone just as much as they are born with a White skin tone.
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There is no such thing as a Race of People. Human Beings as a whole, is a Race. Generalizations of people based on their skin color has really corrupted the mind. There is Culture, and there is Ethnicity. One of the reasons why people are dark skinned is because the chemical in their body produce a protection against violent Sun Rays, which is why most Dark Skinned people reside in Hot places, and that is why the more light skinned people live up North, there isn't that much Sun, therefore there is really no need for protection. If you're going to be proud, be proud of you Culture, not your Skin Color, and its achievements. Be proud of your individual achievements as well.
There is very much a such thing as a "Race of People" as you put it. Please don't try and tell me, or anyone else in this thread, that race doesn't exist. I think that may be the only thing that we will all agree on.
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I really don't care how you live your life, but remember Skin Color is nothing more than a shell that masks your true self.
This is classic. You inadvertantly have proven that you buy into stereotyping just as much as the next person. You call skin color a "shell that masks your true self" which means that, to you, a person's skin color tells you one thing about them but their personality can directly contradict that. Tell me then, how is that not the same as what you're trying to denounce?
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Old 07-16-2006, 11:33 PM   #59 (permalink)
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I think that catalanottot is accusing you of being racist while you're not. It is ok for black and spanish people to be proud of their races but not white? I am proud of being white, not because I feel that white are superior to other races, but because I'm a fanatic of history, I look at the history of europe and north america and I am proud of what thoses countries have done.I appreciate each countries's accomplisments and culture, including the countries which I am not from. The fact that I am white however makes me feel more attracted to what "white countries" have done simply because their culture is similar to mine. In the same way that I will feel more attracted to exemple Spain rather than chinease because Spanish's lifestyle is more similar to mine than chinease. If aliens existed (thats another debate), I would feel more attracted and proud of the earth's accomplisment rather than mars. You got it?

However she catalanatto does have a point got pigment, you do not choose who you fall in love with, even you who think that you would date only white chick, you could fall in love with a woman from another race because you do not choose it. If you fall in love with such a woman, your convictions will fall I'm telling you. They say love is blind, so you won't care about her race, nationality or whatever, trust me.
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Old 07-16-2006, 11:36 PM   #60 (permalink)
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So basicly,your saying EVERY black person is lazy, rude, and inconsiderate? Ever stop to think that there could be a HIGH percentage of black people who strive for success without having to 'shoot each other' and 'steal'? Also, ever think that SOME white people are lazy, rude and inconsiderate? So techinally, generally, you shouldn't like your own race, because white people are the same in some way; Mostly useless rednecks.

"In that small percent"? LMFAO.
I won't insult your intelligence and argue based on your "Mostly useless rednecks" statement because I know that it was tongue in cheek but you are right. Cultural abominations exist on both sides of the spectrum.

I think what he was trying to reference to was the disproportional number in which blacks commit crimes as opposed to whites. The manner in which he presents his case, however, leaves something to be desired.

Also, I would consider that studies are only that. They look at a sample size which in no way represents an absolution of a race.
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